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Why don’t people understand that i would drive myself if i could?! (self.Blind)
submitted by Fit-Contribution4018
Just needed to vent here for a sec bc no one else in my life seems to get it. I can’t drive myself anywhere. So if i cant get a bus or some form of transport to your event in another city 4 hours away, I CANNOT GO. I am so sick of people in my life making me feel like crap for not being able to drive myself places. Do you think i wouldn’t just drive myself if i could??! It’s infuriating!!!
DeeDeegc 25 points 1y ago
I understand entirely. My vision forced me out of my job because I couldn't get across town safe on my bike and my town has no public transport at all. My mother doesn't seem to understand the difficulty I have in getting around and is always asking me to pop by real quick to help out. I would love to help her but she thinks I tell her I can't make it because I don't want to be bothered. It hurts that she doesn't get it. What else can we do though?
Fit-Contribution4018 [OP] 18 points 1y ago
Exactly!! When will people stop acting like it is our choice to not be there? Like if we just try a little harder we can magically get our vision back and get a drivers license or create a working mass transit system…it’s like they don’t realize that our inability to drive never goes away.
DeeDeegc 12 points 1y ago
The worst part is they expect us to sort it out but I always get people getting grouchy when I ask for a ride too like I'm some kind of mouch or something. It's like I can't win if I don't make it but I also bother people when I try hard to make it. I wish I had independent travel so bad I'm actually trying to build an automated quadracycle. Im an engineer but things have gotten much harder since my vision loss. I know it's not their fault but sometimes the people I rely on most can make me feel like such a burden. I didn't ask to go blind though and didn't do anything destructive to cause it. I just got a bad roll on the genetic lottery.
Fit-Contribution4018 [OP] 3 points 1y ago
Yes yes yes!!! Your words make me feel so understood. You said exactly how i feel!! It’s like people don’t realize we do not WANT to be this way!!
PrincessDie123 2 points 1y ago
Have her use a cane and a blindfold or put some Vaseline on some glasses and tell her to try to navigate through town that way (I don’t think she’ll make it off her own property) to see how hard it is.
B_Bussen 9 points 1y ago
I kow the feeling, and family are the worst offenders. I have a friend and a cousin who take me shopping and to doctor and so forth. Been blind all of my life, will be 74 in September, it doesn't get any better.
BoredCheese 6 points 1y ago
Start making the assumption that these people are offering you a ride when they invite you. They can’t be under the illusion that you can drive yourself, so they must be offering to do it themselves. Right?
Otamaboya 5 points 1y ago
This really gets at one of the toughest parts of living with blindness or low vision. It speaks to the frustration of feeling cut off from "normal" society. Everyone is whizzing around in their cars, and no matter how empathetic they may be, it feels like it's hard for them to remember that not everyone can do this. And at least in the US, the whole place aside from a few dense urban areas is set up for a car-centric life. It presents a dilemma in that we don't want to burden others by always needing a ride, but it's also not right that we should have to jump through crazy hoops to get ourselves from place to place.
LandLovingFish 2 points 1y ago
Especially in the more rural areas, i dont think there's even a proper bus stop anywhere in walking distance. It's all "as needed" and frankly im just not comfortable with sitting alone in a giant bus when most people don't use the public transport. Too nervewrecking sometimes especially at night
sadistc_Eradication 5 points 1y ago
I hate this too!! I’m not TRYING to be an inconvenience I just can’t drive! I usually end up just not going to stuff that isn’t close because people make it out to be such a burden to drive someone to places. I even offer to help cover gas.
unispiredBun00 2 points 1y ago
Same
Carciroth 4 points 1y ago
People started out telling me it wasn't a big deal to drive me places, to just let them know if I needed to go anywhere. Didn't take very long till I started hearing groans and sighs when I'd ask. I almost never ask anyone anymore, makes me feel like shit when I get those reactions. So I sit at home and wonder what it must feel like to go anywhere anytime you want. Must be fucking nice.
LandLovingFish 3 points 1y ago
Can agree it is- whenever i go on vacation to somewhwre with a reliable bus system it's sos trange being able to actually explore the area and do stuff.
Fit-Contribution4018 [OP] 1 points 1y ago
This made me cry it was so accurate. I have never felt more understood.
BaBaBroke 3 points 1y ago
Not being able to get some place is one of the most frustrating things for me. I'm in a rural place, I was sighted when I built it, and no public transit nearby. Ever since COVID no Lyft or Uber. No taxi. Para transit is a joke. No sidewalks, so walking is out of the question.
At least my wife will drive me to and from work and take me someplace if I want to go. I bought her a new car and pay all the bills so that may be more incentive.
I would ask as soon as you get an invite if they can pick you up or if someone else that is invited and might be in your area can do it.
Maybe have someone you know, plan ahead, every other Saturday or whatever, so there is a schedule, to go out to stores, etcetera.. Tell them, you fly (drive), I'll buy, and buy then lunch or dinner.
Maybe you can find an Uber or Lyft driver that you can make a deal with to pick you up locally. Since do it at a discount. Just a thought. I would like to see a self driving car service just for visually impaired people that just shows up when you need it or schedule it.
TrailMomKat 3 points 1y ago
I am so glad I don't have this problem, but I live in an area 30 miles from the grocery store, so everyone close to me gets it. They've all had a car break down before and the struggle is real if your car is acting up. On occasion, though, someone new to me will comment on how it shouldn't be hard to come out and I'll reply "sure, I'll drive, I bet it'll make the news!" Luckily, that's worked so far to point out the stupidity of their comments.
brb_28 3 points 1y ago
Honestly!!! Like it’s my life that is hindered the most by the lack of reliable public transit and safe bike lanes and sidewalks, yet I am the one who is made to feel like crap for not being able to get places or simply being left out of plans because I can’t get there myself.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the worst part about vision loss/being blind isn’t being blind. It’s the isolation that so often comes with it.
jek339 3 points 1y ago
It also seriously restricts where you can live. I don't drive, so I can only live in cities with robust public transportation systems, taxis/rideshare, and safe walking/cycling opportunities if I want to be independent. This inevitably means living somewhere with a high cost of living in the US, which then creates a different set of constraints.

Also, I hate asking for lifts. Sometimes, people are ok about it, but other times, you clearly get the resentment reaction. It would be so nice if people who knew you were going to the same place just proactively offered. I'm happy to pay for petrol or whatever, but just take me along!
Fit-Contribution4018 [OP] 1 points 1y ago
Not to mention where you can work. I recently had to turn down a job offer bc it was located in a city where the rent in all the apartments within walking distance of the office were insanely over priced. In addition to everything else in the city being way too expensive, which is why everyone else who worked there commuted from other nearby cities or suburbs, which is not an option for me.
LandLovingFish 1 points 1y ago
Omg yes, like i would love to live in a cute house in a small town but that's not happening if i can't drive in the US. Limits job opportunities too- i ended up picking a college major that i know i can get an online job with and even then i have several backup plans just in case. It's frustrating when you have to choose whwre tp live vs. Where you can actually getba job of some kind.
anonymombie 3 points 1y ago
Seriously could've written this myself. I feel like a burden to my sighted partner and everyone in my family. Some of it's in my head because of depression, and some of it's not. My family invites me to things at the very last minute, sometimes hours before, and they live two hours away. Then they blame me for not magically being able to show up. They assume my partner will just drop everything and take me on demand, like an Uber or something. I'm jealous of everyone who can drive, because they don't realize the freedom they have. I'm also angry at people taking it out on me because I can't.
arond3 3 points 1y ago
My lesson : Stop caring about it.

Did you educated them by telling them you can't physically come because of your disabilities ? Great.


Why do you care they are not happy ? You already teached them you can't if they don't accept it and are bothered by it great for them, laugh about there stupidity.

If they are bothering you to the point you need to vent on the internet : why are you still considering them a part of your family ? I mean people who refuse to understand you shoudln't be a part of your life.

I tell this not just for op but all the other people here : ask yourself why you should care about the opinion of someone and if the only answer is because you share blood or you don't have a good reason then just assume they are stupid like a lot of people.
Fit-Contribution4018 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Because if i cut out everyone in my life who was bothered by my blindness and inability to drive, then i would be alone always.
arond3 1 points 1y ago
And that's not a problem in itself, those people are bothered by something you can't physically change, so better to be alone than with bad company.

If you need those people to live then endure it and try to make changes in your life that allow you to meet intelligent people and be less dependent on others.

This sub can serve as an example there are peoples that can understand you.
randomdragen 2 points 1y ago
good answer, good knowledge
WEugeneSmith 1 points 1y ago
I understand your point, but OP cannot simply turn off those feelings.

Also, this sub is a place where we can all safely vent without judgement. It is important to give space for that.
arond3 1 points 1y ago
I understand and empathize with those feelings. And won't do anything to stop people from doing it.

I'm also trying to point out that you dob't have to care about it, if it can help to say it :)
ColdShadowKaz 3 points 1y ago
I have family that will give me directions for walking that are very hand wavy. They like to leave out important details i need because they don’t need them. And they wonder why I avoid them.
Fit-Contribution4018 [OP] 1 points 1y ago
Yeah mine will still tell me something is “over there” when i ask. It’s hard to not get very irritated. I am partially blind due to a brain tumor that destroyed most of my vision 20 years ago (i’m 25 now) and sometimes my mom will say things like “you seem to be able to see this thing well enough so i wonder how blind you really are…” i think she’s kidding but man it still really hurts. Family are the only people you are supposed to always have in your corner.
ColdShadowKaz 1 points 1y ago
My family will tell me to just look for things that I can’t see. It’s gotten so bad I’ve had fantasies about poking those members of my family in the eyes putting us on even footing then screaming the same stuff right back at them. I always just shut down instead. I cant keep doing that so i‘ll have to get away.
unispiredBun00 3 points 1y ago
I have this problem too where I am currently living there's no public transportation and Ubers barely appear oh and there's no taxis services anymore so i been currently unemployed for almost a year makes me mad I wish my family would understand too I hate to have wait on people or beg them to take me to places to do anything
Fit-Contribution4018 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Right?? And it’s not like we can just up and move somewhere with better access to transportation bc we are still so reliant on others. It’s terrible.
LandLovingFish 2 points 1y ago
I can agree- i think that whole reason is why i love visiting places with good or at least convinient transport systems (Hong Kong was such a fun trip purely because we never had to wait for someone to drive us for that reason). It's virtually impossible to go without a car where i live if you want to go anywhere with actual people or things to do and if it werent for the fact i cant drive i would definitely have gotten a part time job or gone out with friends a lot more. As it is, im quite stuck at home for the most part wothout someone driving for me.

Im pretty sure most people don't plan to use their school study abroad programs for the main purpose of "i get to spend a whole semester experiencing some form of freedom in going places by myself" yet that's my main reason. Id love to experience going to a store on my own, maybe I'd like shopping more if someone wasn't looking over my shoulder the whole time.
Fit-Contribution4018 [OP] 1 points 1y ago
I wish my parents would have let me study abroad to experience that kind of freedom. They are so incredibly controlling, and then make me feel bad for asking for rdes all the time or assuming they will take me somewhere, when they are the ones who insist i stay in this city with absolutely no reliable transit.
mouseguard2315 2 points 1y ago
What I have begun doing which may or may not be passive aggressive but I don't care anymore is to ask them to roleplay being blind for just a minute. Completely cover your eyes and just try and walk around your house. Let me know how that goes. Now, just cover one eye and try and screw this lid on this bottle that is across the table. Depth perception is important when driving, right?

Now, imagine driving a vehicle that weighs a ton or more in that condition. I'm not willing to kill someone just to make it to your thing, sorry.

People that aren't in our shoes don't ever even walk one single step like we do. If they aren't willing to try and understand how every aspect of our lives is so much more difficult than theirs then, I don't know what to say.
Fit-Contribution4018 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
This is such a good idea, i am definitely going to start using this. I don’t think it’s passive aggressive at all. If anything, it’s just teaching them a little bit about what its like to have a disability.
DeeDeegc 1 points 1y ago
That's the thing, between cataracts and glaucoma, she's blind enough to not be able to drive either. She already knows, she just doesn't consider it all the time. Lol
King_of_the_Dot 1 points 1y ago
I'm sorry that this is something you have to deal with often. If I could play devil's advocate for a second, I think that sighted people have a complete disconnect in how they view blind people. Sighted people have only ever had sight, so it's incredibly difficult for them to wrap their heads around something from a blind person's perspective.
Fit-Contribution4018 [OP] 2 points 1y ago
Oh yes i am very much aware of that, which is why i don’t ever yell this kind of thing at them. I just needed somewhere to vent my frustrations bc no matter how much i understand that they could never truly comprehend our struggles, it still gets frustrating sometimes.
King_of_the_Dot 0 points 1y ago
We all have to deal with each other in some form or fashion. Your interactions are just more... Unique. Cheers, friend.
SiriuslyGranger 1 points 1y ago
Sometimes it can be challenging for sure. You just have to keep looking for people willing to, hire a driver or take public transport.
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