Advice needed on going on date with legally blind man [M22] as a sighted woman [F18](self.Blind)
submitted by mossyflipflop
I matched with this guy on an online dating app, and he mentioned that he is legally blind. I am very excited to go on a date with him. I think he is super sweet, attractive, charming, and passionate about what he does. And I’d love to get to know him more. Did I mention he is very attractive? :)
My initial reaction is that I would treat him the same as anyone else, but I realized I might have subconscious preconceptions that will make me act differently. I’m naturally a people pleaser, and I can imagine I will probably try to help him with different things (i.e. ask if he needs help reading the menu, etc.). However, at the same time, I do not want my behavior to come across as infantilizing him. I also don’t to accidentally want to say/ask something out of curiosity that might be offensive, hurtful, or ignorant. Would it be rude to ask the extent he is able to see? Would it be rude to ask if he is able to see me/my features? Would it be rude to ask if he needs help?
I really really want this guy to like me, and I don’t want to mess anything up.
Redditors of r/Blind, is there advice you would give to me on going about a date? What would you expect and/or want from a date! Please give me whatever thoughts you have!
mehgcap9 points1y ago
Feel him out a bit first (tee-hee). Work out how much or little he wants you to help, and go from there. I'd appreciate you asking me if I wanted you to read the menu, but if he's legally blind, chances are he has some vision. He may even have enough to read print, either the "normal way" or through a magnifier of some kind. If you ask and he says no, accept it and don't ask again. If you ask and he seems annoyed, back off even further with similar questions. That's what I mean by feeling him out.
Same for vision questions. I'm happy to talk about my vision, but some people aren't. Also, on a date, I wouldn't want that to be the only topic of conversation, no matter how comfortable I am talking about it. Maybe ask him what he can see, since legally blind is a broad term. Based on his answer and whether he seems okay with the topic, maybe follow up a bit, or drop it after that one exchange. It'll depend on him.
Basically, you're going on a date with a guy. Treat his vision like any other subject which you find interesting and he may or may not--probe a bit, and base how much to go into it on how he reacts. Just don't let it be the only thing you talk about. Same for how much to help--he likely has strategies for most things, and how much help he needs will depend on his level of vision. He may have enough sight to follow you, or he may ask if he can take your elbow so you can guide him to wherever you two are walking. He may be able to read the menu, he may need help and not feel comfortable asking, or he may need help and will have no problem asking you to give him a hand. Just feel it out and go with what he seems comfortable with. Don't be afraid to ask at first, but gague his reaction and adjust your level of helpfulness accordingly.
I know this is vague, but it really depends on the individual. To summarize, treat this like any other social interaction, and read your date as best you can while you ask casually what he can see or if he needs help. Don't make a big deal of it, and don't be afraid to show interest if he seems open to discussing his visual impairment. For plenty of us blind people, blindness is just a thing in our lives, just as a job or where we live are things in our lives. We're open to talking about them, but it's not a big deal. We're also generally happy to educate people who are honestly curious, but that's not really the aim of a date. Also, I'm bad at brief summaries, it seems.
Have fun, and don't stress about this. Keep the vision and help questions casual, and adjust based on how he reacts to them. Ask questions if he's okay with it, but don't make that the focus of the date. If he uses a guide dog, don't interact with it at all unless he says you can. You'll be fine. Best of luck.
mossyflipflop [OP]6 points1y ago
Thank you so much! This was very helpful! Vision definitely wouldn’t be the only thing we’d talk about. We have a bunch in common! We share a minority religion, both love nature/outdoors, and we both rock climb! I’m still very much a beginner at rock climbing so I’ll probably be asking him for advice on that most of the time.
mehgcap1 points1y ago
Sounds like fun. I hope it goes well.
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mehgcap4 points1y ago
If I were on a first date with someone, I'd prefer my date know not to interact with my guide dog at all. It's always easier and less awkward than having to explain why this person I want to impress can't pet my adorable lab.
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achromatic_033 points1y ago
I feel like when I went out with ppl, vision hardly came up, especially at the beginning... what's tricky, is I'm just at the cusp of legally blind and pretty independent aside from driving...it's so dependent on how much vision someone has and what resources/ training someone has received. Some legally blind ppl can even drive. That's just all stuff you find out over time...I will say one thing that's tricky is societal expectations, especially of men, which is unfortunate, but can create challenges with accepting help, being vulnerable, and admitting insecurities. I feel like I also struggled to some extent with that stuff when I was that age. I would like, try to hide my vision issues more and not ask for the help I needed out of pride or whatever. This hopefully gets better over time, too :-)
sunflowerdecay2 points1y ago
Ask him how his vision is. There are 3 types of legal blindness. Visual acuity, peripheral vision, and central vision. Maybe a mix of three. Every blind person is different. It's not rude, just don't talk about vision all day or ask repeatedly. He'll tell you what he wants you to know when. Don't keep asking if he needs help. He'll ask for it if he does. It sounds like you need to work on boundaries, most people do. Look for books by melody Beattie, and where to draw the line by Anne Katherine. That one specifically has a section on disability.
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BaBaBroke1 points1y ago
So it's a blind date. Remember, it's not over there or over here. It's straight in front of you or to the left or right. There are steps going up or down. He can hold your elbow or he can hold your arm or you his but I guess you have to see how it goes. You can ask what he can see and if some type of lighting condition is better or worse for him so you know for next time. If he asks what is on the plate or where it is, closest to him is six o'clock, the top of the plate is twelve, you get it. If the waiter brings something let him know where they put it so he does not knock it over, sometimes they are quiet. He probably can't read your body language so there's that. Have s nice time.
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