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As a man and not being able to drive at all makes me sad and insecure sometimes. (self.Blind)
submitted by DaddehGaming
When I was 14 years old. I lost my vision in my left eye due to retina detachment. I went to many eye doctors to find out if I can drive with one eye. But all of them said the same thing "no" because I don't have good wide field vision in my right eye. That is not the worst part. I also have really bad night blindness which means I don't go out at night by myself cuz I can't see shit lol. But during the daytime, I am perfectly fine. Whenever someone comes up to me and asks if I drive. My confidence goes down real quick. Especially when I meet a girl and ask if I have a car or if I drive. I try to be the best version of myself. I watch and read a lot of self-improvements contents out there. I am now 22 years old and currently studying accounting and next year I will graduate in May 2023. I also go to the gym 3-4 times a week and have a decent physique. I guess my question is how can I still be considered a high-value man if something simply as driving is not an option for me?


Edit: Thanks for the advice guys. I live here in California about 1 hour away from big city like LA…
WEugeneSmith 18 points 1y ago
You are already a high-value person. Being able to drive (or not drive) absolutely does not define you or your worth.

I know this must very difficult at your age, and I canempathize with your situation, but I want you to look at what you can do, rather than concentrate on what you cannot do.

Becoming an accountant is a huge accomplishment. Your earning power is going to be significant, and you will be able to afford rideshares to ferry you about. The fact that you work out and are taking care of your body speaks of your character.

Any woman worth dating is going to be happy to share an Uber ride with you, or drive when you go out. Any woman worth your time and energy is going to value you for who you are, and for who you are becoming.
DannyMTZ956 8 points 1y ago
Obtain rehabilitation training for the blind. It gets dark and you are dependent on others. learn how to use a cane and travel independently.
Tarnagona 6 points 1y ago
Well, while driving is incredibly common, there are plenty of people who don't drive, for all sorts of reasons. You will find this is especially the case in large cities that have good public transit and alot of traffic; it becomes just as, if not more, practical to take transit everywhere and not own a car. Other people choose not to drive because owning a car is just expensive, or they want to be more environmentally friendly (so they choose to walk or bike). Some people don't drive beacuse they have really bad anxiety. I have one friend who is sighted, but doesn't have driver's licence because she couldn't pass the written test. There are rich people have a chauffeur, just because they don't want to drive themselves.

Not being able to drive can be a bloody pain, and I will always be envious of people who can just live anywhere, or get up and go whenever they want, and never have to worry about bus schedules. But between public transit, Uber, and my own two feet, I can go anywhere a person in a car can go, and my worth is not less because I have to take a different route, or more time to get somewhere. Nor is yours. Anyone that's going to choose to not date you just because you don't have a car is not worth dating anyway. Plus, plenty of people who can drive at your age don't just because they can't afford to own a car, yet, so it'd be an especially silly thing to discount you for.

tl;dr not driving is frustrating as heck, but does not diminish your worth, and anyone who discounts you for it isn't worth your time.
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nadmaximus 3 points 1y ago
It's an impediment, to be sure, especially if you live in a place where public transportation, walking, or bike riding are not available or not safe.

There are many reasons people may not be able to drive. I find myself unable to drive for several years now, due to circumstances. I moved to Europe, and after a year my right to drive on my US license expired. So I need to get a French driving license...but my French is just not up to the task.

Also, I am allowed to ride a 50cc scooter without a license. And, I have bicycles and walking. I'm a 50-year old working professional male, and I ride a bicycle to work.

It's inconvenient at times, but it never defines my worth.

You can always just decide that you don't drive because you want to save the planet. Become a hard-core ecological proponent, committed to traveling by bike, foot, or public transport. There are plenty of people who will consider that a valuable and worthwhile principle. Get an electric scooter, become a hip dude, grow some cool facial hair. But be yourself...it's who you are anyway.
ukifrit 2 points 1y ago
First of all, stop thinking like an Incel. We’re not computers or whatever to be divided into high / low value.
Anyway dude, have you ever tried therapy? LIke it’s good for talking about these insecurities we have. Sometimes it’s more about us than about people’s expectations.
DaddehGaming [OP] 1 points 1y ago
No I haven’t try therapy.
ukifrit 1 points 1y ago
Try it out. You may not feel that well with your first, but when you do, it's gonna be amazing.
IfIGetHigh 1 points 11m ago
I’m sorry you’re struggling with this, it doesn’t seem uncommon at all.

I’m a 23 year old sighted woman living and working in Los Angeles. I know being single in CA can be intimidating — a lot of people, a lot of mismatches and a lot of rejection (especially for men in general). Personally, I gave up on apps/dating and ended up meeting my boyfriend online and going long distance with him. He is completely blind, 24 and now living with me.

He can’t drive either. And I know he doesn’t feel great about it. And I can understand how not having the independence to get up and go anywhere can feel trapping. When I didn’t have a car, I felt similar, and so if you’re talking to girls who don’t drive — they might look for partners who can drive and who can offer them that independence. Because I had a car and liked driving when I first met my boyfriend, him not being able to drive was never an issue.

Things my boyfriend initially did that got my attention:
- He was confident and had a similar communication style as me (I notice this in everyone I meet/date and feel closer to people who I can flow in conversation with)
- On our first call, when I was insecure because I didn’t have hobbies like he did (gaming, YouTube, working out) — and he responded by being humble/encouraging/supportive of what I had achieved. I felt taken care of
- He spent a lot of time with me and gave me attention (without coming off too strong and respecting my space, letting me come to him and ask to hang out as well)

Things my boyfriend does that are integral to our relationship:
- He is emotionally vulnerable with me and I feel I can trust that he will communicate if he is struggling (instead of holding it in and never learning how to communicate, which most men I’ve dated do not)
- He is in therapy and actively takes care of his mental health the best he can (I feel safe knowing he is taking care of himself in this way)
- He does not belittle my issues (he values what I bring to the relationship and has been open to making changes that I need to feel more loved)
- He respects me as a woman and doesn’t see me as an object/lesser than/over-romanticize me
- He cooks, takes out the trash, does the dishes and even learned how to notice when we’re stopping in front of a door so he can open it for me (I like chivalrous stuff like this sometimes)
- He seeks out independence where he can and listens to me when I feel overwhelmed/unable to help him with inaccessibility. He also credits me and makes me feel appreciated when I do help (this was not always easy, we had to make room for him to be frustrated at inaccessibility but me still not go unnoticed for helping)

Lean into your strengths and hold your head up high. Driving doesn’t make you a man and I promise you, you’ll find a woman who likes driving. The struggle comes in learning how to communicate and ask for things. My boyfriend and I are in couples counseling because it’s been really hard to always get communicating right. — I hope you find someone who respects you, appreciates your strengths and has strong communication skills. Best of luck out there.
achromatic_03 1 points 1y ago
Not being able to drive is definitely my least fave part about being legally blind! Functionally and socially, the best thing I ever did was move to a large metro areas ,so driving wasn't an issue and getting rideshares/carpools was very easy/cheap/common.

Additionally, on the social side, this sucked so bad growing up in a tiny town where you had to drive to go anywhere. However, I don't have the same stupid societal pressures as a heteronormative male, to be the strong driving provider or whatever. But in the end, you have options--either own that shit and don't apologize about your circumstance (preferable for long term sustainability and mental health), or try and 'pass' and do what someone else mentioned and lie about why you don't drive and stay super hung up on independence and pride at all costs. I personally still struggle with that choice because of living in an individualistic bootstrapping society, being a people pleaser, and being too practical to be grifted by motivational/inspirational BS.

Lastly, get that CPA my friend! Trust me, it can really pay off. And the reality is, for us, mo money, less problems, because then you can afford to be in that metro area, using rideshares as much as you need to, and having a successful and stable career with a lot of room for upward mobility. Again, due to societal BS, ladies still love a successful monied partner! Obviously, there should just be someone who will accept you as you are and that is the best most sustainable healthy path, but if we're talking statistical probabilities...it's not like these stereotypes come from nowhere.
TwoSunsRise 1 points 1y ago
I’m sorry but do you have normal vision in your “good” eye?? Just clarifying before commenting further. And what country do you live in?
DaddehGaming [OP] 1 points 1y ago
No, I have really bad night blindness in my right eye. I can’t go out at night by myself or go to the movie theater alone by myself. Someone needs to hold my arms and walk me through my seat. I live here in US California.
TwoSunsRise 1 points 1y ago
I can understand not driving at night as it sounds dangerous for you. However, if you have good corrected vision in the daytime, you should be able to absolutely drive like a typical person. I’ve been totally blind in one eye and I need correction in the other, since I can remember. I still drive just like any other person, even with minimal peripheral vision. If your vision can’t be corrected during the day time, that’s one thing. But if it can be corrected, then shame on the doctors that told you that you couldn’t drive.

Sorry for the mini rant. Please correct me if I’m misunderstanding, which is very possible.
DaddehGaming [OP] 1 points 1y ago
I am really 95 percent sure that I can drive during daytime. The Department of rehab doctor said I am not allowed to drive. But I feel like they are wrong. But I can’t do much about it. Can I just go to DMV and give it a shot?
TwoSunsRise 1 points 1y ago
Well, I feel like those doctors potentially screwed you over. I would 100% try to learn to drive and get a license.

First though, when you do eventually go to the dmv to get your official license, they will check your vision. Basically, if you can see the eye chart at your eye doctors office, with corrective lenses, then you will pass the dmv check. They always try to check both eyes and you just need to tell them that you have no vision out of one eye. Some will be ass hats and still make you look through the lense to do the eye test and you have to tell them (again) that you don't see anything.

Here's is the official notice from the CA DMV website:

Minimum Visual Acuity Requirement
Visual acuity is a person’s ability to see items clearly and sharply and to recognize small details. If you cannot meet the vision screening standard, you must have a minimum visual acuity in at least one eye better than 20/200 (best corrected). You may wear glasses or contact lenses to meet the minimum visual acuity standard but you cannot wear a bioptic telescopic or similar lens. The DMV cannot license drivers who do not meet the minimum visual acuity standard (CVC §12805).

Here's the link if you want to read more: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-education-and-safety/educational-materials/fast-facts/vision-standards-ffdl-14/


I'm going to continue with the assumption that you would be able to pass that test. (if you can't, you may not be able to drive)

First, you will need to go to drivers ed and take a course and pass the drivers test in order to even qualify for your DL. You don't need a car to do this. Drivers ed cars are modified so you'll always be using theirs for the lessons. If you pass, then you can go to the dmv and get your actual drivers license. I would not tell them about your night blindness, if possible. You're an adult and need to be responsible about that.

I have no idea what your financial situation is but that would open the door to you getting a car. When thinking about cost, don't forget car insurance. It will create more monthly costs for you but can really open opportunities by having personal transportation.

All of this to say, screw the doctors and just give it a try. Being blind in one eye should have minimal impact on your life, just gotta put yourself out there and make it work for yourself.
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SiriuslyGranger 0 points 11m ago
It’s not a big deal. I live in the Los angeles county area and I too don’t drive. You’ll survive. You have the wrong attitude.
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