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The problem of Funnelled speech, a discussion with my good friend Abhishek Dhol (self.Blind)
submitted by phoenix_00916
Hi there,
I'm Pranav, a blind student from Bangalore, India. Apart from high-school, I run my own tech YouTube channel and a non-profit organization called Vidyadrishti.
A recent experience experienced by my friend Abhishek Dhol, who is a student at the QueenMary Lawschool in London, really put forward what we call the problem of Funnelled speech, namely the problem where a person speaks about you in the third person to a third-party while you are right there. Said experience took place on IndiGo airlines while he was travelling from Bangalore, India, to Ahmedabad, India.
Following this, and quite a bit of work done by us on twitter, we sat down, and recorded a 1.5 hour video just going through this problem, disecting it, and trying to find solutions to it. It'd be great if you guys could please share this around with others, and send any feedback you got our way.
Grab a coffee, and get ready to be enlightened! :).
You can find the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw-1ZJN0e6o
Cheers!
I'm Pranav, a blind student from Bangalore, India. Apart from high-school, I run my own tech YouTube channel and a non-profit organization called Vidyadrishti.
A recent experience experienced by my friend Abhishek Dhol, who is a student at the QueenMary Lawschool in London, really put forward what we call the problem of Funnelled speech, namely the problem where a person speaks about you in the third person to a third-party while you are right there. Said experience took place on IndiGo airlines while he was travelling from Bangalore, India, to Ahmedabad, India.
Following this, and quite a bit of work done by us on twitter, we sat down, and recorded a 1.5 hour video just going through this problem, disecting it, and trying to find solutions to it. It'd be great if you guys could please share this around with others, and send any feedback you got our way.
Grab a coffee, and get ready to be enlightened! :).
You can find the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw-1ZJN0e6o
Cheers!
rainmatt 3 points 11m ago
I have not experienced this, but as a disability advocate, this is something that I can bring up as a topic in my community.
phoenix_00916 [OP] 1 points 11m ago
Great! Thanks.
Rethunker 2 points 11m ago
I had a business lunch with someone new. After noticing that my lunch partner was totally blind, the server stayed facing me as we ordered. I kept thinking, “At this short distance, you don’t think one of your guests will notice when you are talking away from them?”
phoenix_00916 [OP] 2 points 11m ago
Indeed. I've had that in restaurants a lot of times over. It honestly feels as though we are at fault, even though we are not.
SiriuslyGranger 2 points 11m ago
Yeah, it’s common especially Asian communities but I usually just speak up and answer the question myself and it often shocks the other person or something. Some of them may start talking to me. But some still do it in a patronizing way which I am not a fan of. If it’s appropriate I am very blunt and direct about how this is not okay.
phoenix_00916 [OP] 1 points 11m ago
Honestly, many times they just ignore us when we try to talk to them. Freaking annoying as hell.
SiriuslyGranger 1 points 11m ago
Yeah, I guess it’s where you are. Here in the Us. It’s much better. But definitely much harder around asians which is why I really don’t go there. Americanized asians are better.
bradley22 2 points 11m ago
I’ve experienced this when I was younger and it’s so annoying.
phoenix_00916 [OP] 1 points 11m ago
Indeed. It starts getting on your nerves, tbh.
bradley22 1 points 11m ago
It does.
Soggy_Oil_6790 1 points 11m ago
I think when it comes to visually impaired people or people with disabilities in general that some people around them forget how rude it is to talk about someone in third person, while the person is being present. I dont know if this happens because of lack of knowledge about blind people or because they feel insecure talking directly to the blind person when they can talk to someone near them instead, i don´t see the logic but i feel like that is what's happening often in today's society.
Think about it, if they were blind and needed help on the airport i think they would prefer people speaking to them instead of speaking about them.
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i apologize if the text is messy, english is not my main language
Think about it, if they were blind and needed help on the airport i think they would prefer people speaking to them instead of speaking about them.
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i apologize if the text is messy, english is not my main language
phoenix_00916 [OP] 1 points 11m ago
Indeed. I've personally experienced that airport problem myself, and it makes working with someone excruciatingly hard to do.
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