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The Three-Body Problem (self.books)
submitted 12h ago by cherrybananas13
I just recently finished this book, I saw a lot of hype about it and I really don’t understand why. I feel like most of the book was dialogue and just felt very plain.
The end of the book started to get more interesting but there was no real climax of the book in my opinion. I understand that this is only part 1 of a series, but I’m curious what you guys thought of this book?
Did you guys find it very engaging? Having you want to read it without putting it down?
I’m curious to know if this is a better sci-fi book in your guy’s eyes?
wjbc 80 points 11h ago
I enjoyed it but you must understand that it's idea driven, not character driven. The characters represent different ideas, and they don't change much. The tension comes from the interaction between them.

I also think you really have to read all three books to understand the series, which doesn't mean you should. That's entirely up to you. Taste is subjective. But I enjoyed it.
greenappletree 10 points 7h ago
U are correct - some of the ideas is mind blowing and very novel but the character were very much 1 dimensional— i wonder if it’s a cultural or translation thing though ?
wjbc 1 points 2h ago
No, Isaac Asimov’s *Foundation Trilogy* was similar, and in fact is specifically referenced by one of the characters. I think that was Liu Cixin’s way of acknowledging Asimov’s influence.
krysak 7 points 7h ago
I actually reread it recently and agree completely. I love the ideas of the book and for people who like science and physics might really enjoy it as well. But thinking about it I didn't care about any of the characters.
Maybe that's the intention, the second book spans across 200 years of earth history so caring about specific characters is kinda pointless.
_Weyland_ 1 points 1h ago
I cared about characters the most in the second book. It kinda shows how a single person can turn the course of history. What it takes do do so and how such power impacts the person. Not the greatest character development out there, but still interesting.
Wallabycartel 3 points 3h ago
I really liked the book for this reason. I wouldn't want every book to be like this but as its own experience it's great!
MrSnowden 24 points 12h ago
I just finished at as well. I think it does a huge number of things. Some better than others. A lot of it is tied up in deeply Chinese ways of social thinking and interaction and deeply tied to the CR that I don’t think resonate as well with US audiences.

On the sci fi front, i think there are a Jim er of very interesting ideas explored. Some better than others. But taken as a whole, I’ll be thinking about some of the ideas for a long time.

It did get better at the end, although there was some deux machina i did t care for.
jaydfox 5 points 8h ago
I really appreciated the Chinese perspective. I've read a few Western (US and/or Europe) sci-fi novels, and it was interesting to see a story of such consequence unfold in China.
Gravitas_free 13 points 10h ago
It's a very polarizing series among SF readers. I think it's ok. I don't regret reading it, but it has pretty weak characterization and a pretty shallow view of human society in general.
Wide_Road2875 2 points 2h ago
I've heard the shallow view comment before but didn't really get it. Wdym?
yellowcats 25 points 12h ago
I live in cape cod in MA and we have incredibly bright skies cuz we are 100 miles out into the ocean. Shooting stars every night with the milky way visible in the background.

After reading book2 The Dark Forest I really dont look at the sky the same for me personally it was just so existentially terrorizing. I love that kinda stuff so I'm big on this book series and am excited for the netflix series. The GoT guys are great at adapting (not so great without the source material aka the late seasons)
ilikedirt 6 points 11h ago
I had to take a break after reading Three Body but your description makes me excited to go back for book 2
KoeiNL 7 points 4h ago
The second book is the best out of the three.
jaydfox 3 points 8h ago
The second book got inside my head worse than the first book, lol. Emotionally and intellectually. I haven't read the third book yet, so I can't recommend it (yet). But I definitely recommend the second.
SwtnSourPeasantSoup 1 points 8h ago
Whoa you just made me want to start book 2. I finished book 1 over a year ago.
nothanks86 1 points 4h ago
I am so jealous, we have like five stars and a planet at night and that’s it.
batsonthehighway 9 points 9h ago
The series is a decent conceptual exploration of the Fermi Paradox.

If you really enjoy the concept, Stephen Baxter has a lot of books on the topic.

Time, Space, Origin which are a trilogy in alternate universes, whether there are enough black holes, intelligent squid, deep futures.
Galaxias, which starts when the sun disappears.
The Long Earth series with Terry Pratchett (GNU) which is about parallel universes.

All of these I enjoy vastly more than the Three Body Problem .

Another author to exploits Greg Bear and his Eon and Eternity series.

Also Dragons Egg by Robert Forward. That is a unique story.
RyanEatsWrld 11 points 12h ago
I didn’t really care for it but gave it a read because a lot of other people recommended it. Had to force myself to keep going. I’m glad I finally checked it out but it just wasn’t my thing.
drunk_and_orderly 7 points 12h ago
Some of my friends were in love with it and I thought it was great. I don’t normally read a lot of sci-fi but it was fine for me. Didn’t blow my mind or anything but I enjoyed it. Like anything though it can depend a lot on your tastes. What do you normally like to read?
cherrybananas13 [OP] 3 points 12h ago
Very true, I actually read everything possible. Sci-fi, horror, mystery, romance, self help, non-fiction, you name it! If you wanna explore more sci-fi I’d recommend the last astronaut by David Wellington
drunk_and_orderly 2 points 12h ago
Putting it on the list! Thanks!
Taste_the__Rainbow 4 points 10h ago
It was an okay translation of a pretty good book.

10/10 concepts. But culturally there’s a lot more repetitive dialogue in books and movies from that part of the world.
the_G8 9 points 11h ago
I read the first and second books. I thought they got worse and didn’t feel like spending time in the third. I thought they were an interesting insight into Chinese culture but otherwise very meh.
hipeakservices 2 points 8h ago
my own experience is that the books got worse--or less interesting. I liked the first one, but the second was less interesting, and I didn't even finish the third.
wholewheatwithPB 7 points 10h ago
I hated it - barely got through the end of book 1.
ithinkitsbeertime 8 points 10h ago
I DNF'd it about 3/4 of the way through. The bits set in the cultural revolution were my favorite mostly because the setting is something I'm very unfamiliar with. The rest just sort of bored me. I was not invested in most of the characters and the science was really silly... which is a weird thing to complain about in sci-fi but for some reason it really just didn't work for me.
dbran1949 5 points 10h ago
I am a long time SF reader 50+ years cannot find anything good to say about the trilogy
Faville611 2 points 6h ago
I started it twice and only made it halfway the second time before getting fed up. I was going to get rid of it but I am going to give it a third try so I can either get on top of and over the issues I had with the writing and scenarios or be able to articulate better why I didn’t like it.
This book tends to fall under the “concepts over quality” problem I have with some sci-fi, plus there’s a translation and cultural element that seems to come into play as far as finding the writing acceptable. Similar to books like Foundation, I think the writing quality is difficult to deal with, and that makes it difficult for me to enjoy the book from the science/concept point of view which seems to be where people really love the book and are willing to overlook (or not agree at all) about the quality of the rest.

Edit: actually after reading a bunch of these replies and seeing a lot of similar views, maybe I won’t waste my time. There are far too many other books to read and my life is well over halfway done, lol.
Wide_Road2875 0 points 2h ago
I don't think this book is for you. It's very concept-focused rather than character-focused. In the entire series, it's probably worth considering some characters as concepts rather than thinking humans.

Book two might be better for you, since the main character has more of a "hero's journey". But idk if you should bother. The second book is great, but only because of its ideas, not particularly memorable characters.
TehDing 5 points 11h ago
- I really liked 1

- I loved 2

- 3 is one of my top favourite books

To me it only got better and each book was distinct in its own way. BUT your milage may vary.
depinthewoods 4 points 10h ago
I liked book 2 the best. Book 3 was really good, but the main character was not as compelling.
TehDing 1 points 8h ago
Favourite character is definitely the protagonist in book 2, but the sci-fi in book 3 is what I like
InnerReflection5610 3 points 11h ago
I listened to the trilogy on audiobook, it took about 60 hours. I really enjoyed the sci-fi ideas. I felt that I misunderstood some interactions due to cultural differences, and at times the prose seemed to ramble into tangents that I didn’t enjoy (again I assumed it was cultural style and so accepted it for what it was).

I enjoyed the first book well enough to give the second a try. I found the second one a bit depressing but interesting. The third book was my favorite of the three due to the sci-fi goings-on. The conclusion of the series is very Taoist, and therefore satisfying to me.

I probably won’t read/listen again, as it’s a large commitment, but I’m glad that I did it once.
thechosenwunn 2 points 9h ago
I also just finished it, and I loved it. I thought it was very different and refreshing from anything else I've read in how it handled the concept of extra terrestrial contact. I also thought it was different in how it prefers to make you engage with ideas instead of characters, using analogies as often as it can to get its plot points across.

That being said, it didn't really hook me until a bit after the halfway point. It's definitely a slow burn, and there isn't really a satisfying climax. However, it did hook me by the end, enough that I'm burning through the sequel and loving every page. It's definitely not for everyone, though. Obviously, no book is, but I feel like this series is an acquired and niche taste.
JarJarBinksSucks 2 points 12h ago
I think it’s very badly translated. I thought the story could have been great. I enjoyed it slightly, I couldn’t finish the second book
drbhrb 4 points 12h ago
Yeah I suppose I’m willing to give it the benefit of the doubt but I hated the book (read in English). Better prose certainly would have helped but the characters were also non-entities. I’m hopefully the upcoming adaptation is decent as there are really interesting ideas buried in a bit of a mess of a book IMO
cherrybananas13 [OP] 2 points 12h ago
Maybe that’s it, I felt like it had so much good potential but just missing a bit of action and something to grab attention.
I’m now very concerned about continuing the series lol! But I’ll still try it out
ReturnOfSeq 2 points 12h ago
I enjoyed this book and the series quite a bit. It was interesting reading scifi approached from such a distinctly different cultural background. I enjoyed Roadside Picnic for similar reasons; so much of what’s going on is flavored by the society it comes from
GhostMug 3 points 12h ago
I really enjoyed it. That said, I can see why somebody would feel the way you did. Even as much as I liked it I enjoyed the second one, Dark Forest, much more.
Zerofaults 4 points 8h ago
The book is bad, the concept everyone raves over was silly and used in an absurd way. I think people are overvaluing the concept because the giant explanation even though it was all gibberish. The characters were dull and people just disregard it, and the writing as a whole, because the concept ...

Don't feel bad, people who enjoy good writing, worthwhile characters, motivations that have some grounding and sense, this book is not for them.
sarcasmyousausage 2 points 10h ago
Chinese bots are reviewing it positively. It's atrocious.
i_stoleinsteinsocks 4 points 10h ago
no, it gets worse, this book is “brought up” frequently in this sub by its marketing team. one guy posts, then another said it was better than “insert famous author” ever could write.
truth be told it was hot garbage, first time I asked Amazon for a refund on the entire series.
am I wrong?, no, any civilization that can fold space and shoot that folded space across the universe to invade another, but cannot build a computer and have to simulate logic gates with people is stupid.
remember the movie “The Happening” where aliens invade a planet that is 98% water and took most of the movie to find out that was their weakness. it was that dumb. enough ranting and people do not fall for the hype!
Wide_Road2875 2 points 2h ago
The human computer wasn't for the aliens. It was part of a VR recruitment tool by the aliens. It was something the aliens had tried historically to help show the futility of trying to solve the problem.

"The Happening" didn't have aliens invading a planet. You're thinking of "Signs".
Zerofaults 1 points 8h ago
Thank you, the concept everyone is so enamored with is just dumb. It conceptually does not fit, its implementation doesn't make sense, its super specific targeted mission is even worse. What they could have accomplished on this planet with that tech being used to wreak havoc is insurmountable. The hand waving for them making the tech, the implementation of the tech, etc. was all handled so poorly.

I feel like proper hard sci-fi, which is the only explanation for the boring breakdown of the technology, would leverage and explain the technology better. They just hand wave everything while giving you pages and pages of human computers and some boring tech in space. Its like psuedo hard sci-fi, where you explain a ton, but don't make any sense in any other way.
glandgames 2 points 7h ago
I hit a wall. I don't understand the VR game whatsoever. I don't know what they're doing, I don't know what the point is, I don't know anything. I just don't get it.


Liking that cop so far, though. And I liked the universe flicker thing.
Denesis417 0 points 5h ago
It makes sense when you keep reading
Taodragons 2 points 10h ago
I thought it was the world's dumbest story problem from the world's most sadistic substitute math teacher. I'm not sure how I even finished it.
carridewithkennedy 1 points 9h ago
I had a hard time getting through it initially but as it came together towards the end I found it to be really interesting. I think it had interesting concepts that I haven't seen in other sci-fi books. I'm going to read the second one but in the meantime I'm finishing the 6th dune book. If you're looking for other sci-fi books I'd suggest the dune books if you haven't read them yet. Also anything by Ursula K Le Guin, she's an amazing writer. Left Hand of Darkness and The Dispossessed (both by Ursula) are fantastic. Also I know it's a classic but Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by Philip K Dick is absolutely fantastic and got me started on a scifi book binge.
mangoblaster85 1 points 9h ago
I found the series overall good and the first two books particularly good to the point that they're on my occasional re-read list. The first one introduced what I found to be an interesting sci Fi concept and how humanity might act in the face of such conditions.

The second book was interesting, a little more far-fetched but I absolutely loved the main character and how I felt represented reading about him.

I don't feel as compelled to re-read the third book but it was digestible and had enjoyable moments. Still way better than Dune. God I struggled with Dune.
DadsWhoDeadlift 1 points 8h ago
Terrible dialogue. Terrible characters. Not so great translation.

One of my favorite sci-fi series of all time. Up there with Hyperion.

While it could be incredibly boring, the scope of the book is insane. The amount of scale it gives to time and space is mind boggling and terrifying and I was just such a fun thing to think about.
Wide_Road2875 0 points 2h ago
I have the exact same take lol
chijerms 1 points 9h ago
I liked the trilogy. If you want more mystique and action maybe try the Hyperion series. It’s followed by Endymion which a lot of people don’t like, but I liked both halves of the story about equally.
CortexRex 1 points 5h ago
I agree with you. I thought it wasn't very good.
TheBestMePlausible 1 points 10h ago
Part of what made me enjoy it is probably what made some people dislike it - the Chinese-ness of the book. Everything, the dialogue, the way the characters interact with each other, the way that they think, the background of government stuff for the story takes place in, it’s all clearly the work of a foreign mind. I say this as someone who lived overseas in Asia for well over a decade and enjoyed it.

I liked this glimpse into the mindset of a different culture. But I could see how it would put some people off.

As far as the sci-fi elements of it, the first book is slow but somewhat fascinating. I think the second and third books are better reads.
gogorath 0 points 9h ago
Agree. I enjoyed reading something truly from a different culture.

I also thought the clash if ideas was compelling, but I enjoy sci fi like this.
ho11ywood 0 points 9h ago
Personally,
three-body was a 3/5
Second book was 4/5
Final book was 5/5

First book could have been about half as long imho
Demiansmark 0 points 8h ago
That's good to hear - breezed through the first book and got maybe halfway through the second and got distracted by something or other, been meaning to get back to it. Didn't love the first book but didn't hate it, interested to see where it goes.
Hugasaur -1 points 10h ago
I just finished the trilogy and each is a little slow to start but pick up as you go on. Book 2 gets great about halfway through and then it doesn’t really let up. Book 3 has a similar spot where it gets good but it begins in a more exciting spot than the others. I also found the dialogue and some of the writing dry and agree with another commenter that the best parts of this trilogy are the ideas (some very cool stuff coming your way if you continue).
hannannannannah -1 points 8h ago
i’m really shocked to see how many people didn’t like this series as everyone i’ve talked to irl loves it. i do agree with others that it’s not character driven and i think the translation is a little iffy but i found the ideas so compelling i ripped through the series really quickly. i can see how you don’t feel the first book had a real conclusion but the trilogy as a whole is well-plotted i felt.
slipperyzoo 0 points 8h ago
First, it's translated, and while I think the translator did a great job, my housemates read it in its original form and said there were a lot of idioms and such that simply don't translate well. It's a bit of a slow burn, yes, and a lot of it is subtext, yes. It's extremely engaging if you take the time to digest it because it's pretty dense and the questions it asks about our current knowledge of the universe are pretty fun. The overarching play of individualistic vs collectivist societies is also an interesting theme to see from a non-Western perspective. Also, the first book in this series, as with the first book in many series, is setting the story. I'd recommend finishing the series, as it's easily top five of all time for sci-fi and I've read a lot of sci-fi. It will change your perspective on our reality and on the search for extraterrestrial life.
FireLucid 0 points 6h ago
Book 1 is by far the least gripping. Book 2 really picks up and was my favourite of the 3. There are a lot of cool ideas like the >!wallfacers!<.

The guys that did GoT for HBO are doing this series for Netflix. Since it's a finished series, might be decent as the first few seasons of GoT were amazing.
WingZombie 0 points 5h ago
Having read the trilogy a couple times, I consider the three books each as one act in the same play if you will. They don't stand alone very well, but when all three combined are viewed as a single story I believe they are brilliant.
FirstOfRose 0 points 5h ago
I liked it but I already knew what the mystery was, which did affect me enjoyment.

Dark Forest is the best of the three.
csrutledge 0 points 1h ago
The first book has a notoriously slow middle chunk. But the second book is one of the best I’ve ever read. In general the author feels like as much of a teacher as a fantasist. The books feel like extended metaphors intended to illustrate scientific concepts like the three body problem (how do you predict the positions of three bodies in space?) and the Fermi Paradox (if space is so big, where is everybody?).
NoisyCats -3 points 10h ago
I liked it, but it’s a different kind of sci-fi. It reads like an older classic.
badheartveil 1 points 6h ago
Are you referencing Asimov
nach_in -1 points 9h ago
The second book in trilogies tend to be the worst, but in this case I feel like the second one is by far the best of the series. The first one is by far the most plain, but it does make a good job of setting the world and expectations
yusquera -2 points 9h ago
Some of the ideas in it are interesting. I think it is well written mostly, maybe it more so appeals to scientists or something.
nickwales 1 points 6h ago
I enjoyed book one overall, got about 1/4 of the way through book two and lost the will to continue.
DarCam7 1 points 45m ago
I read it in the past month and I thought it was above average. It kept me engaged just enough to finish, but I wasn't too keen with the writing style, which I understand can be diluted from the original language's rhythm when it was translated. The characters and dialogue were wooden, but it could be due to a writing style targeted at a different audience.

The ideas and science, however, are the main draw and what ultimately kept me reading.

I am currently reading the next book in the series, The Dark Forest, and I do have to say the dialogue improves and isn't as stilted, although some conversations between characters still feel stiff, at times. Again, that could be translation, so you can't escape it. There a few lively characters in this second book, so it doesn't feel like the players in this section for the series are just here to deliver plot exposition, but overall, none of them are constructed in a way that will feel memorable, except maybe Da Shi and Liu; they feel more fleshed out.
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