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[META] Neuroscience Literature/Resources (self.neuroscience)
submitted 11y ago by ScholarHans
*Hello neuroscience community, I had an idea that I hoped would be useful and convenient for all of us here.*
I've noticed a good amount of posts involving what literature to be reading up on, what journals/papers/resources to be reading, etc., and thought it would be very helpful to have a universal neuroscience page/post regarding the different resources and their reviews that have been suggested that could be organized in accordance with what it was relevant towards (basic or advanced, general or specific, branch of neuroscience, etc.).
In short, it would be a simplified page or post that we could quickly add any books or resources we had read and what we thought of them. I think it could save time for a lot of us and open up some good options or suggestions on literature for those of us who were interested. I know theres a lot of stuff out there in the big bad interweb, and this would be one measure to make it a little more simplified so we could spend more time on what we really found interesting or helpful.
Also, we could possibly have some generalized posts regarding advice for those starting to become interested in the field, those seeking education, research methods, even methods on studies or work in the field, etc.
I think this could be quite useful for many of us and would only take a little bit of effort on our parts, just taking a couple minutes to go on if we read a book we found interesting, without it getting lost in a sea of comments or posts. Let me know what you guys think.
**TL,DR;** We should compile all the most relevant/helpful resources.
Note: I was thinking it would be especially nice if we could get a link set up on the /r/neuroscience front-page, however unfortunately I am not sufficiently skilled with computers and would not have the knowledge nor access to go about doing this. (Mods? Any advice?) In the meantime, it actually would be rather helpful if you could take a minute to:
-post a source you think would be greatly relevant, give what type of source, possibly publication date, give the general subject, and even say what you thought of it or give a quick summary, etc. (not all of these are necessary but I thought whatever you would be able to put would be helpful)
I've noticed a good amount of posts involving what literature to be reading up on, what journals/papers/resources to be reading, etc., and thought it would be very helpful to have a universal neuroscience page/post regarding the different resources and their reviews that have been suggested that could be organized in accordance with what it was relevant towards (basic or advanced, general or specific, branch of neuroscience, etc.).
In short, it would be a simplified page or post that we could quickly add any books or resources we had read and what we thought of them. I think it could save time for a lot of us and open up some good options or suggestions on literature for those of us who were interested. I know theres a lot of stuff out there in the big bad interweb, and this would be one measure to make it a little more simplified so we could spend more time on what we really found interesting or helpful.
Also, we could possibly have some generalized posts regarding advice for those starting to become interested in the field, those seeking education, research methods, even methods on studies or work in the field, etc.
I think this could be quite useful for many of us and would only take a little bit of effort on our parts, just taking a couple minutes to go on if we read a book we found interesting, without it getting lost in a sea of comments or posts. Let me know what you guys think.
**TL,DR;** We should compile all the most relevant/helpful resources.
Note: I was thinking it would be especially nice if we could get a link set up on the /r/neuroscience front-page, however unfortunately I am not sufficiently skilled with computers and would not have the knowledge nor access to go about doing this. (Mods? Any advice?) In the meantime, it actually would be rather helpful if you could take a minute to:
-post a source you think would be greatly relevant, give what type of source, possibly publication date, give the general subject, and even say what you thought of it or give a quick summary, etc. (not all of these are necessary but I thought whatever you would be able to put would be helpful)
PilotPirx 9 points
ok, let's start with something basic: Principles of Neural Science by Kandel and Schwarz gives you a good start.
This book will tell you everything you need to know to understand more specific areas you later may want to explore. How does a single neuron work, how do they form larger regions, how does the brain develop in the embryo, how do neurons contact with muscles and so on. Large book, takes some time to read.
This book will tell you everything you need to know to understand more specific areas you later may want to explore. How does a single neuron work, how do they form larger regions, how does the brain develop in the embryo, how do neurons contact with muscles and so on. Large book, takes some time to read.
ScholarHans [OP] 1 points
Right. Wow, and they have a new edition coming out in a couple of months... exciting. Would you say that (given they had the patience) a layman could get through this?
PilotPirx 2 points
I am far from being a scientist or anything and was able to read and understand the book with no much more than a good educational background. If you don't understand something, in most cases you will find help at Wikipedia. Some basics in Chemistry and Biology are essential, but you can catch up while you read.
veils1de 1 points
I dont think you read his post. He's suggesting that we compile a list of papers found useful for each relevant topic
PilotPirx 2 points
"involving what literature to be reading up on"... "add any books or resources"...
i understood this to involve books.
i understood this to involve books.
ScholarHans [OP] 2 points
Yes, however this could be a very important resource to list in that compilation.
BANNANA1 2 points
Alright,
Here's a good beginning. Im going to start with work from Alan Hodgkin, Andrew huxley and Bernard Katz. You can read more about this trio, who are form the 'trinity' of cellular neurophysiology. These papers provide the initial description of the cell's electrical properties and how impulses (sub-threshold depolarization and Action potentials) are conducted across neurons.
1. AL Hodgkin 1937. Electrical transmission in nerve, Parts 1 and 2
2. AL Hodgkin 1938. The subthreshold potentials in a crustacean nerve fibre
3. AL Hodgkin and WAH Rushton 1946. The electrical constants of a crustacean nerve fiber
4. AF. Huxley and R. Stamplfli 1949.
Evidence for saltatory conduction in peripheral myelenated nerve fibers.
These papers establish three key findings. 1) axons carry a digital signal called an action potential 2) The basis involves ions carried across the membranes of the axon 3) The signal is initiated in the soma of neurons and once it crosses threshold action potentials are evoked.
The next set I'll post follows Hodgkin and Huxley as they go deeper into the ions that underlie the action potential, how these ionic currents interact to produce an action potential and how these ions are conducted across axonal membranes.
If you're not with an academic institution and don't have a license to get these papers, check out Jstor which should have them all for free.
Find them on pubmed, find the issue numbers (these are all in the Journal of Physiology) and then locate them in Jstor.
More soon
Here's a good beginning. Im going to start with work from Alan Hodgkin, Andrew huxley and Bernard Katz. You can read more about this trio, who are form the 'trinity' of cellular neurophysiology. These papers provide the initial description of the cell's electrical properties and how impulses (sub-threshold depolarization and Action potentials) are conducted across neurons.
1. AL Hodgkin 1937. Electrical transmission in nerve, Parts 1 and 2
2. AL Hodgkin 1938. The subthreshold potentials in a crustacean nerve fibre
3. AL Hodgkin and WAH Rushton 1946. The electrical constants of a crustacean nerve fiber
4. AF. Huxley and R. Stamplfli 1949.
Evidence for saltatory conduction in peripheral myelenated nerve fibers.
These papers establish three key findings. 1) axons carry a digital signal called an action potential 2) The basis involves ions carried across the membranes of the axon 3) The signal is initiated in the soma of neurons and once it crosses threshold action potentials are evoked.
The next set I'll post follows Hodgkin and Huxley as they go deeper into the ions that underlie the action potential, how these ionic currents interact to produce an action potential and how these ions are conducted across axonal membranes.
If you're not with an academic institution and don't have a license to get these papers, check out Jstor which should have them all for free.
Find them on pubmed, find the issue numbers (these are all in the Journal of Physiology) and then locate them in Jstor.
More soon
BANNANA1 2 points
Hi - If we are talking about scientific papers, then we should probably organize them in some way. I think a nice way to do this is to have sets of papers that start at the beginning of some field; ie: Steve Kuffler's '53 paper that begins the study of the functions of the mamallian retina or perhaps Fatt and Katz's '51 paper that begins the study of synaptic transmission. Then progresses through to maybe the 80's or 90's; After this point some of the initial findings become incredible diverse and probably deserve their own beginning and endings.
I'll think about it and post a few reading-chains of maybe 15 papers each. I have a basic science background so these references will be basic rather than clinical or cognitive/functional imaging.
I'll think about it and post a few reading-chains of maybe 15 papers each. I have a basic science background so these references will be basic rather than clinical or cognitive/functional imaging.
grilledbaby 2 points
I've found a whole slew of things on audibles, and I listen to them when I go walking. It's AWESOME, and increases the amount of data I get to take in when I don't have to actually manually read something. Doing it during exercise hits two birds, one stone. My last read was Beyond Boundaries. Excellent data, excellent reviews. Im willing to go through my whole audibles account and put together a whole list of brain books they have that were awesome, but I gotta make sure you can really use it. It would be a good amount of work, since Ive already been on there for a couple years and listen often.
franklymydeer 2 points
I do like this idea; how exactly would it work? Are you suggesting that one member will create a post, and continually update it based on suggestions in the comments section? We can use the comments section to discuss the relative merits of proposed books, and choose the section that they fall under (beginner, advanced, cognitive neuroscience, social neuroscience, or even more specific).
This could work, but does anyone know if there's a way to make a post 'sticky', i.e., always easily accessible from the front page?
Edit - thought I should really make a suggestion as well; I would recommend *Neuroscience: Exploring the Brain* by M.F. Bear, B.W. Connors, M.A. & Paradiso. It's aimed at undergraduates and provides a good, broad overview. It's focused on biology, and doesn't really go into much of the cognitive side of things, nor does it talk much about disorders and lesions (this isn't a criticism, I'm just trying to give an idea of the general focus of this book).
This could work, but does anyone know if there's a way to make a post 'sticky', i.e., always easily accessible from the front page?
Edit - thought I should really make a suggestion as well; I would recommend *Neuroscience: Exploring the Brain* by M.F. Bear, B.W. Connors, M.A. & Paradiso. It's aimed at undergraduates and provides a good, broad overview. It's focused on biology, and doesn't really go into much of the cognitive side of things, nor does it talk much about disorders and lesions (this isn't a criticism, I'm just trying to give an idea of the general focus of this book).
ScholarHans [OP] 1 points
My thought was that since I don't know how to make it 'sticky,' I would start by simply organizing anyone's suggestions here. This wasn't where I intended to keep all of it, but I figured at least I would be able to start gathering some of the information.
Hopefully, it would indeed eventually be 'sticky' and then organized by various categories (topic, reading level, mainstream/alternative, specificity, etc.) and we could have a main post to comment on them or to give suggestions. Seeing as there probably wouldn't be the biggest influx of suggestions and the like, it would be pretty easy to manage.
My thinking was that with all this, it would be simple enough that after you had read something good or relevant (or even if you just happened to remember something you read before) you could just take a couple minutes to write down however much information you wanted to and what you thought of it, or, if you were especially lazy, just the book title itself and it would be easy to take it from there.
EDIT: As to how it would work, I had a couple thoughts:
1. Like you said, we could have a main post with all the info and recommended/categorized books and resources. We would comment on it to give suggestions and such, and the post itself would be edited and linked from the front page.
2. We could do something similar, except rather than having all the information directly in the post, we could have it linked to a spreadsheet that, if possible, would be shown directly in the post. I've already starting putting a couple of these books plus a few of my own additions into a spreadsheet for convenience.
Hopefully, it would indeed eventually be 'sticky' and then organized by various categories (topic, reading level, mainstream/alternative, specificity, etc.) and we could have a main post to comment on them or to give suggestions. Seeing as there probably wouldn't be the biggest influx of suggestions and the like, it would be pretty easy to manage.
My thinking was that with all this, it would be simple enough that after you had read something good or relevant (or even if you just happened to remember something you read before) you could just take a couple minutes to write down however much information you wanted to and what you thought of it, or, if you were especially lazy, just the book title itself and it would be easy to take it from there.
EDIT: As to how it would work, I had a couple thoughts:
1. Like you said, we could have a main post with all the info and recommended/categorized books and resources. We would comment on it to give suggestions and such, and the post itself would be edited and linked from the front page.
2. We could do something similar, except rather than having all the information directly in the post, we could have it linked to a spreadsheet that, if possible, would be shown directly in the post. I've already starting putting a couple of these books plus a few of my own additions into a spreadsheet for convenience.
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