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How can I study neuroscience? (self.neuroscience)
submitted 11y ago by Philosophantry
I am a college freshman studying biochemistry, but neuroscience sounds incredibly interesting and I want to pursue a career studying it. At what level of education can you branch into Neuroscience proper and what should you learn before you get to that level?

Edit: Deleted some useless bit, and added my current major
CalicoBlue 5 points
I'm currently a third year grad student in neuroscience. I have a BS in Psychology and I spent 2.5 years working in a behavioral neuroscience lab on my undergraduate campus.
I believe the single most important thing you can do if your goal is to do neuroscience research is to work/volunteer in a lab (or labs!) as an undergrad. At the least you'll learn what it's really like to do research and at the most you have relevant experience under your belt and the potential to publish something. If your school doesn't have a neuroscience research program, find the most closely related biology or psychology labs to work in.
Hypermeme 5 points
It depends on your school. Some colleges offer excellent undergrad level neuroscience degrees but since it's a newer field it tends to be more prominent in graduate school programs. If your school doesn't offer a dedicated neuroscience department or branch within the biology or psychology departments then you have some more work to do:

First prepare a basic science core. 1 semester of General Chem, 1 semester of Organic Chem, 2 semesters of physics (mechanics and electromagnetism), and at least 1 semester of basic biology. You should definitely take more biology though, especially human physiology, endocrinology, psycho biology and/or neurobiology. It's very important to take a statistics class and have at least single variable calculus down. Throw in some critical reading courses and make sure your science classes are lab classes.

Now you have a strong science core that leans towards neuroscientific study. These courses will help acclimate you to the scientific community, methods, and tools at your disposal. It's a wonderful community and if you love it you could add much to mankind's knowledge of the brain and further the well-being of humans.

Once you have this core planned out, remember to enjoy yourself as well. Take classes you have other interests in as well. One of the most famous neuroscientists today, Sam Harris, started out as a Philosophy major. Neuroscience is a very interdisciplinary study and knowledge of things like philosophy, psychology, music, art, sociology, and so on can be very helpful in broadening your view of cognitive and neuroscience.

There are quite a few tracks to go down when studying the brain. You may focus more on the chemistry and biology of the brain itself. You would be studying the exact mechanisms of how neurons talk to each other and how information is relayed, inhibited, or amplified. This field is very important and you may be able to produce research on cures for many neurological diseases that harm humans today (think MS, ALS, brain tumors, many viral diseases, and so on). In that case biochemistry and more organic chemistry will help you greatly. Computational biology will also be of great use. If you are more interested in higher cognitive processes, the line between neuroscience and psychology you may be more interested in cognitive science or "cognitive neuroscience." This is a track for people interested in the physical processes that form things like learning and memory and how they function and develop. Of course you will have much overlap with the more chemical side as well.

Many people who go into neuroscience at the graduate school level are psychology, biology, or chemistry majors that want to refine their knowledge into the more specific field of neuroscience.

No matter which track you go you must and will become familiar with the scientific method and good experiment practices. This is a growing field and well formed and carried out experiments are central to it. There are many mysteries to the brain and the world needs more neuroscientists to help address the holes in our knowledge about the brain and about the many diseases that can riddle it. Who knows your contribution to neuroscience may help end the plague that is Alzheimer's disease.

Edit: I'm currently a neuroscience major at a university well known for it's undergrad and graduate neuroscience programs.
Philosophantry [OP] 2 points
My school doesn't offer neuroscience, but I've been getting a start with biochemistry so far, and from everything else you've said that seems like a good start.

As for which track to go down, I'm mainly curious about consciousness and more philosophical aspects of neurology. Is biochemistry still a good course to enter there?

Also, **thank you so much for your response!** That was incredibly insightful and I really appreciate it!
Hypermeme 2 points
Fantastic! Biochem is definitely still helpful, especially if you want to get into drug research such as anti-psychotics, hallucinogens, and so on. One way to study something is to make parts of it stop and go to see what happens. A knowledge of biochem will certainly help you understand the mechanism behind it.

For the more philosophical aspects of neurology like the mind, consciousness, and thinking you should definitely also look into cognitive science graduate programs. This will still let you work in the neuroscience field.

I'm glad to help =D
Not_a_neuroscientist 2 points
The most important thing to do is to work in a neuro lab and try to get a paper. You are a freshman so you should be able to do it by your senior year. See what research is being done at your school, decided what you like best, then email that professor and tell them how cool their research is to fluff their ego. They like freshmen coming in as it's more likely they want something other than just a letter of rec.
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Philosophantry [OP] 2 points
Thanks for the advice, I was worried about my school not offering a neuroscience degree but if that's not a huge issue then that's a big relief for me. Where would be a good source to get a start on reading about the neuroscience field? Are there any good articles or books that are comprehensible to a college freshamn/sophomore?

I don't know much about programming, but it's something I've been meaning to learn for about a year now. What's the best way to go about it? Is that the sort of thing you should take classes on at school or is it something you can learn on your own/through online educational materials? I'm not entirely sure if I will have time in my school schedule to take a class on it...

Also, just curious, how did you know I was a hard science major before the edit?
thenakedjuice 2 points
My school library has research databases that are full of scholarly, peer reviewed articles. This is a great resource. Also, you can try websites such as Nature Reviews: Neuroscience As far as computer programming, I suggest taking at least CSC 150 (or whatever your school calls C++) it is a course that covers the basics of programming. From there you can find a program you like and delve into it on your own time. And I didn't know you were a hard science major. The last part of my comment was me quoting the email I said I had received from Dr. Eagleman. That was his advice to me that I was passing onto you. ;)
Best of luck my friend!
Philosophantry [OP] 2 points
Awesome! I'll definitely give some of that a look, and see if I can fit C++ anywhere in my schedule!

Ahhh, didn't realize you were still quoting him haha
veils1de 2 points
You dont need a neuroscience bachelors to pursue neuro. Nearly everyone in the lab I work in studied engineering, math, or comp sci. Plenty of time to get into neuro later. That said, I highly recommend you go about learning how to program. I think google classes might be useful. From my experience, Python, R and MATLAB are useful languages (I suppose MATLAB isn't really a language, but it's not hard to learn and very useful). ALso look into /r/neuro subreddit. There have been lots of threads like this with information (including good resources) you might find useful
Philosophantry [OP] 1 points
Thanks a lot, I had a stint with Python over the summer, I think I might try and pick it up again once finals are done with. And I'm already subscribed to /r/neuro... so I guess I'm on the right track!
El-Dopa 1 points
Along with what others have suggested, I think it is important to have a good understanding of statistics. Regardless of the kind of neuroscience you want to do, being able to interpret, digest, and critique statistical methods in neuroscience is invaluable. Not to mention, I believe stats will only become more important as time goes on (especially in computational, cognitive, and behavioral neuroscience.)
Philosophantry [OP] 1 points
This is an interesting perspective, how would I go about getting a better understanding of statistics? I'm not sure if my school requires any math classes for my major beyond 3 quarters of calculus
El-Dopa 1 points
Yeah, it is going to vary depending on your university. Most schools offer at least an introductory stats course through the math/stats department. If nothing else, you should at least look into taking something like that (even if it is beyond your requirements). Psychology departments and some engineering departments offer stats courses as well (if it is a psych course and your school's curriculum is similar to the way mine was, it could probably be used to cover one of your 'social science' requirements.... if you even have that.)

I'm currently a graduate student in cognitive neuroscience, and statistics is the name of the game in our field. I did my undergrad minor study in statistics, and it has proven to be one of the better decisions I have made for myself. The basics are very straight forward, but things get complicated quickly. In my opinion, stats (and computer science) is only going to become more and more important for neuroscience as a whole as the complexity of the brain continues to reveal itself. The more you know about these topics, the better you will be able to think about many different kinds of research, regardless of what your final area of study ends up being.
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