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What’s going on with the creator idubbbz? (self.OutOfTheLoop)
submitted 15h ago by lovatsky
This tweet came up on my timeline today. What’s up with idubbbz suddenly grovelling all over the internet? I don’t really know the guy, but I remember he’s the one from the Tana Mongeau video and I guess made some pretty ‘edgy’ content?
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J0hnBoB0n 83 points 11h ago
Answer: idubbbz has a history of making "edgy" and offensive content, including his content cop series which focused on calling out other YouTube content creators. In these videos there was a lot of offensive language including the use of slurs, and stunts commentary that could be considered harassment.
Idubbbz moved away from this type of content and expressed regret over it and the influence it had. Until recently he mainly expressed this in interviews, but he ultimately ended up making a full video addressing it, in which he apologized to those featured in his content cop videos and to the black and LGBT communities for his use of slurs. He feels responsibility for the influence his older content had in normalizing a lot of offensive and inappropriate words and actions.
Many content creators had asked to interview/debate him about his current stances, but he stated he would only want to speak publicly on it with those who we're actually personally affected by his content. It is likely that he's speaking with more black content creators for this reason, and he also expressed willingness to speak with Tana Mongeau, one of the "victims" of his Content Cop series.
Idubbbz moved away from this type of content and expressed regret over it and the influence it had. Until recently he mainly expressed this in interviews, but he ultimately ended up making a full video addressing it, in which he apologized to those featured in his content cop videos and to the black and LGBT communities for his use of slurs. He feels responsibility for the influence his older content had in normalizing a lot of offensive and inappropriate words and actions.
Many content creators had asked to interview/debate him about his current stances, but he stated he would only want to speak publicly on it with those who we're actually personally affected by his content. It is likely that he's speaking with more black content creators for this reason, and he also expressed willingness to speak with Tana Mongeau, one of the "victims" of his Content Cop series.
IAteAPinecone -44 points 7h ago
Bruh Tana Mongeau was definitely in no way harmed by his video on her, man's went fully soft
SnowdropDawn 31 points 6h ago
A big part of the throughline of the video was widely interpreted as "it's okay to use all the slurs we want and actually it's really funny" and this absolutely had an effect on the generation that viewed it. The amount of slurs from fans of his jumped up by a *huge* margin all over the internet for a long time. It's not really about tana, it's about what everyone else had to deal with
agysykedyke 38 points 6h ago
Bro Wdym? He crashed her event and yelled the N word, then sent his whole fan base of chronically online edgy children to harass her for months. Content cop was a show created to destroy people's reputation on YouTube. She got death threats and so much hate for it she had to quit streaming because Idubbbz fans kept spamming the N word at her.
AnEgoJabroni 1 points 2h ago
>chronically online edgy children
You're responding to one of those. Its best to just leave it alone, its obvious that most of them are either mid-puberty or an adult with the mind of an edgy teenager.
You're responding to one of those. Its best to just leave it alone, its obvious that most of them are either mid-puberty or an adult with the mind of an edgy teenager.
J0hnBoB0n 1 points 1h ago
I disagree, I think she was genuinely scared by the experience and was totally unprepared for it. She also got a lot of criticism, hate, and harassment from other people similarly to how the other content cop people did. But for this one he was actually one of the people who showed up in person to mess with her, which is a step above what he did with anyone else.
I'm no fan of Tana and I think her own reasoning/apology for her bad actions and saying slurs was very poor. But that probably doesn't honestly justify that kind of stunt, nor for someone else to say that word to her after she did to her credit publicly disavow that language.
I'm no fan of Tana and I think her own reasoning/apology for her bad actions and saying slurs was very poor. But that probably doesn't honestly justify that kind of stunt, nor for someone else to say that word to her after she did to her credit publicly disavow that language.
ZipZapZia 186 points 15h ago
Answer: idubbbz was a creator who used to make a lot of "edgy" (I.e. racist, homophobic, ableist) content, garnering an audience that reflected those views. After meeting/interacting with some of his minority fans, he realized how is content was harmful to/continuing to perpetuate harm to minority communities and decided to make an apology video taking accountability/responsibility for what he and his community did to harm them. The apology was fairly well received by those he negatively impacted (although a lot of dudebros/anti-sjw/right wing folks disagreed with his apology, believing that idubbbz had nothing to apologize for bc it was just "edgy" shit or just "jokes").
A lot of the "grovelling" you're seeing is him communicating/having discussions with people from groups he's hurt and learning from them as well as expelling the toxic fans from his fanbase
A lot of the "grovelling" you're seeing is him communicating/having discussions with people from groups he's hurt and learning from them as well as expelling the toxic fans from his fanbase
alkme_ 47 points 14h ago
This is like the tip of the iceberg. It really all started when idubbz did a "collaborative" documentary with Sam Hyde. Unsure if idubbz had an agenda going into that. Regardless, Sam used it as an opportunity to punk idubbz. This started a rift in idubbz fanbase as many of the unsavory audience members mentioned crossed over into Sam's fandom.
Then there is the Creator Clash 1 and 2 debacles, both involving Sam Hyde and fans associated with Sam. Idubbz is doing his best to block trolls and toxic people during his growth period. But some people have made this a quasi-poltical thing. They continue trying to find anything to use against new idubbz to prove a weak point that "leftist soyboys are weak and free speech means hate speech is cool"
Then there is the Creator Clash 1 and 2 debacles, both involving Sam Hyde and fans associated with Sam. Idubbz is doing his best to block trolls and toxic people during his growth period. But some people have made this a quasi-poltical thing. They continue trying to find anything to use against new idubbz to prove a weak point that "leftist soyboys are weak and free speech means hate speech is cool"
revinizog 55 points 15h ago
Unexpectedly wholesome 👍
Tzuyu4Eva -1 points 12h ago
The most recent drama with him makes him very untrustworthy imo. Basically he does a charity boxing event, and at the recent event literally nothing went to charity because him and his wife mismanaged money and blew tons of money. I know he did a charity live stream to make money for it but imo you’re obligated to do that when you market an event as a charity event and then don’t give anything to charity
agysykedyke 14 points 6h ago
You mean because Creator Clash 2 got pirated so hard that there were 1.4 million pirated live stream views and only like 100k bought views?
Watch his recent video, these events are expensive to host, and due to the piracy they lost a bunch.
Watch his recent video, these events are expensive to host, and due to the piracy they lost a bunch.
AnEgoJabroni 1 points 1h ago
Not to mention, claiming that as a reason to lose trust is a bit much. They _could_ have been predictable and waited until some journalist called them out as grifters. They chose to be upfront and responsible, and proceeded to earn back a large amount of what they shorted the charities. Loss of trust may be justified if it weren't expressed so explicitly that there is massive regret and a strong effort to correct that mistake.
WheresTheButterAt 1 points 1h ago
You know a pirated view doesn't always = a lost dollar because most of the people aren't going to buy it in the first place right?
And I doubt he had accurate pirated livestream numbers. Those don't get released. Load up any pirated livestream of a sports event and you'll see why that claim is horseshit.
Also maybe don't kick off the one guy anyone was interested in watching, Froggy.
And I doubt he had accurate pirated livestream numbers. Those don't get released. Load up any pirated livestream of a sports event and you'll see why that claim is horseshit.
Also maybe don't kick off the one guy anyone was interested in watching, Froggy.
ngentotjing 1 points 8h ago
Why would he have minority fans if he was making that content?
ZipZapZia 6 points 7h ago
*shrugs* I've never been a fan of him/watched a lot of his videos so I can't really speak for his minority fans. But from what I've observed on the side, he was originally a gaming/unboxing YouTuber who often did collabs with other YouTubers who have a slightly leftist audience and thus minorities might've become a fan of him then. He then branched off into the commentary genre in 2015/16ish and would use his platform to call out problematic creators. However, I believe around that time, he started to say slurs in his videos with the idea that it'll help minorities reclaim those words or something. While many minorities would disagree with his usage of slurs, many of them agreed with the points he made in his videos calling out problematic creators so they were willing to overlook it. However, because he seemed like he was okay with slurs, he attracted a lot of right wing/anti-SJW ppl to his community.
From what I've seen in comments left by his minority fans, most of them were hurt by the toxic community he garnered and the environment he fostered rather than the actual content he created. [This is just my observations so I could be wrong and if a minority fan of his reads this, correct me if I'm wrong]
Additionally it feels somewhat relevant to mention this but a lot of his "edgy" stuff was in 2015-16ish, which was around the rise of Trump and anti-SJW culture and I remember seeing a lot of minorities online try to excuse/ignore people saying slurs at them to fit in and not be seen as the "SJW minority who sees issues in everything." So some of his minority fans might have come from that as well.
From what I've seen in comments left by his minority fans, most of them were hurt by the toxic community he garnered and the environment he fostered rather than the actual content he created. [This is just my observations so I could be wrong and if a minority fan of his reads this, correct me if I'm wrong]
Additionally it feels somewhat relevant to mention this but a lot of his "edgy" stuff was in 2015-16ish, which was around the rise of Trump and anti-SJW culture and I remember seeing a lot of minorities online try to excuse/ignore people saying slurs at them to fit in and not be seen as the "SJW minority who sees issues in everything." So some of his minority fans might have come from that as well.
ArcanePyroblast 5 points 3h ago
He said in his video one of the things that got to him was at a fan meet and greet a trans fan said "hey I know you might not like me but can I get a picture with you"
And that hit him like a freight train
And that hit him like a freight train
AnEgoJabroni 1 points 1h ago
That story clarified a lot when he told it. I've been in a similar boat, albeit as a teenager. Talked constant edgy shit, then had someone say "You know, you're a really nice guy, back in school everyone was afraid to talk to you", and it really hit home.
pnutbuttered 0 points 6h ago
It doesn't matter where you're from in the world, when you're a teenager you're a complete idiot.
ZealousEar775 -35 points 14h ago
Yeah, pretty much just this.
Guy who was embarrassed over being a very cringe Libertarian debate bro who said the N-word owning up to making his career of it.
With a lot of people out there being confused why he is doing it because absolutely zero people asked him to do it and the whole incident only being able to negatively affect current earnings.
People on the left are like "Ok, like we still aren't going to watch your shit". With black people adding "Your videos actually made my childhood worse"
People on the right and some moderates are like "It was funny though/and or it was a different time".
With like... A small amount of people being like "Hey good for you buddy.(Mostly leftwing people who have actually met him I think?)
Man was u cancelable and still mostly making money off right wing chuds via a weird influencer MMA fighting league and he cancelled himself out of embarrassment.
Guy who was embarrassed over being a very cringe Libertarian debate bro who said the N-word owning up to making his career of it.
With a lot of people out there being confused why he is doing it because absolutely zero people asked him to do it and the whole incident only being able to negatively affect current earnings.
People on the left are like "Ok, like we still aren't going to watch your shit". With black people adding "Your videos actually made my childhood worse"
People on the right and some moderates are like "It was funny though/and or it was a different time".
With like... A small amount of people being like "Hey good for you buddy.(Mostly leftwing people who have actually met him I think?)
Man was u cancelable and still mostly making money off right wing chuds via a weird influencer MMA fighting league and he cancelled himself out of embarrassment.
Inmate5580 -43 points 13h ago
Answer: basically he built up an audience during the edgy YouTube era and made bank, instead of retiring through investment or using the money in general to set himself up in someway he seemed to of disappeared then pop back up in the cringe at way possible. He could be genuine about or just trying to ride the new “politically correct” YouTube era money train.
Like honestly if someone who did half the shit did and never thought “golly gee, I guess saying the Nword does hurt people feeling huh?” Then they’re chronically stupid and shouldn’t be given anymore spotlight, more like he noticed the shift in the climate and did a 180, but way to hard that it alienated his fans. Plus he kinda embodies the stereotype of his lil goblin fan’s idea of a “beta” with the pedo stach, long hair, and sex worker gf.
He simply pulled a bad pr move
Like honestly if someone who did half the shit did and never thought “golly gee, I guess saying the Nword does hurt people feeling huh?” Then they’re chronically stupid and shouldn’t be given anymore spotlight, more like he noticed the shift in the climate and did a 180, but way to hard that it alienated his fans. Plus he kinda embodies the stereotype of his lil goblin fan’s idea of a “beta” with the pedo stach, long hair, and sex worker gf.
He simply pulled a bad pr move
ProEugenics -45 points 11h ago
Answer: Idubbbz is a YouTube content creator who gained his platform through edgy humor and content. Now that he is popular, he, among other people, wants to pull up the ladder behind him and deny others that same route, while disguising it as some new, moral turn of a leaf.
mrrektstrong 13 points 8h ago
Edgy like your user name?
ProEugenics -24 points 6h ago
Nothing edgy about proven science.
the_other_irrevenant 5 points 3h ago
"Pull up the ladder" how?
ProEugenics -4 points 3h ago
The attitude of "this is why anyone knows my name, but don't you do it, it's bad" is ridiculously hypocritical.
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