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The secret to happiness may be intense emotions, including negative ones: Research finds that higher intensity emotions, irrespective of valence, are associated with higher levels of well-being. The original study was published in the June issue of Emotion. (psychologytoday.com)
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E_Snap 39 points 8h ago
Higher peak levels of well being or higher average well being across time? It’s a real big difference.
TravelingCuppycake 10 points 2h ago
It looks like they measured overall well-being so I think the second one? A good distinction to be made for sure
WinterElfeas 25 points 7h ago
Nice I must have reached peak happiness with my intense depression emotions!
Dwesaqe 26 points 7h ago
Hm, it seems to me like a rather limited view of well-being.

Article says:

>Happy people, compared to those with a mental illness (e.g., anxiety, depression), are better able to adapt because they experience emotional reactions that are appropriate for the stimulus—**avoidance when facing unpleasant or threatening stimuli, and approach when facing pleasant or pleasurable stimuli**.

That mention of mindfulness in the article is strange in this context, considering that one of the points of mindfulness meditation (and buddhism as a whole) is to diminish the impact of aversion or attachment.
Hefty-Pollution-2694 20 points 4h ago
Not exactly. You're mistaking avoiding with accepting. Accepting isn't saying "yes" as we like to think but rather to acknowledge it's existence and allowing it to pass by in your life
justingod99 9 points 4h ago
OP’s title is way off then.
I assure you depression is an intense emotion.
Feudamonia 1 points 3h ago
>is to diminish the impact of aversion or attachment.

That's the problem...it suggests we're not capable of strong enough to cope with loss.

Which is better? To become strong enough to carry the heft of life or to not feel it at all?
futureshocked2050 4 points 1h ago
There's a book worth checking out--The Language of Emotions by Karla McClaren.

I helped put on a workshop of hers last year and even just being the tech it really broke me wide open and helped explain what I, as an avoidant person was missing.

That ability to just name emotions, go through them safely, bring them to the foreground etc.

It starts off a little woo woo but just stick with it.
Smart-Rip-3733 1 points 50m ago
I've had avoidant people hurt me so much in my life. Thanks for helping them!
CuteDerpster 7 points 6h ago
Not sure. I experience very strong emotions, both negative and positive (although I do have control of my reactions.)

I love life and the world, but I'm Stil pretty darn depressed.
Which is mostly by circumstance I suppose.
mavajo 3 points 2h ago
Those are two separate variables - strong emotions being one, and depression being the other.
Hefty-Pollution-2694 4 points 4h ago
My borderline schizoaffective narcissist and anxious self will tell you to f---- off about that conclusion
deathboyuk 2 points 2h ago
Yeah, my bipolar AF ass raised a fuckin' eyebrow :)
mavajo 3 points 2h ago
I'm sorry you're dealing with that, but what do those diagnoses have to do with this?
Hefty-Pollution-2694 1 points 2h ago
Do you want anything more emotionally intense than that?
mavajo 4 points 2h ago
I feel like you're conflating two unrelated things by implying that strong emotions are only manifested through mental illness. I don't have a background in science, so forgive me if I'm using the wrong terminology -- but I believe your mental illness diagnoses would be a confounding variable in this situation.
Hefty-Pollution-2694 1 points 1h ago
I can assure you that no one has stronger emotions than this. No confounding here
TravelingCuppycake 1 points 1h ago
This is purely anecdotal on your part. Beyond that.. It literally says right there in the article that it’s not just simply any emotional intensity at all doing it, it’s people riding the full range, and it also quite literally discusses how mental illnesses are not the same thing as intense emotions but a haywire protective reaction that makes those people TOO averse to threats.
Dependent_Yak8887 0 points 1h ago
So go ahead, keep crying Reddit!!
Emotional-Light-7522 -5 points 8h ago
So the pickup artists were right after all.
Patient-Importance72 1 points 1h ago
High highs and very, very low lows
Limp_Distribution 1 points 1h ago
I love experiencing my emotions. Emotions are great visitors but you never let them spend the night and you always have to clean up after them. But I love experiencing my emotions.
gnudarve 1 points 56m ago
The world's Zen Buddhists may find this conclusion unsettling.
_JustSaying- 1 points 51m ago
You should have (all the) emotions. But they should never have you.
Well_being1 1 points 50m ago
I don't understand how you can reach that conclusion

The most unhappy people experience very intense emotional pains. The happiest people have high happiness set-point or equilibrium point without a huge rollercoaster of emotions from there. If we take a severely depressed person and decrease his/her negative emotions to a big extent with heroin, it makes them way happier (as long as heroin is working of course)

>emotional reactions that are appropriate for the stimulus—avoidance when facing unpleasant or threatening stimuli, and approach when facing pleasant or pleasurable stimuli.

Then industrial strength meditation practitioners should be less happy because they reduced aversion and desire

Woman without amygdala, known as S.M. patient:

>In addition, S.M. appears to experience relatively little negative emotion, whilst simultaneously experiencing a relatively high degree of positive affect, despite great adversity in her life. Accordingly, she tends to be very positive about most people, situations, and issues.

I guess she lacks the secret to happiness
zouzouzed 1 points 40m ago
Bipolar mf's enter the chat
Disenculture 1 points 21m ago
Stoicists in shambles
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