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Why can’t we have nail polish?!🤷🏻♀️ (self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by hopelovepeace33
I just got my nails done after like four months of not being able to get them done & today I went into work and literally no one said a thing about my nails (which are painted BLACK) until one of my co-workers saw them as I was leaving work. She goes “Ohhh Brigitte you’ve got your nails done! I’m gonna tell” and then everyone around me is like YOU’RE NOT SUPPOSE TO HAVE YOUR NAILS PAINTED! I honestly did not know about this and when I read the dress code I don’t remember ever reading anything about not having your nails painted. Now I’ve worked in food service for a while, at Chick-fil-a for 2 of those years & I got my nails painted ALL the time and was never told I couldn’t & my other co-workers would get their nails done as well and have acrylics also. So what I want to know is if Chick-fil-a, the highest standard form of fast food, Christian based company allows their workers to have nail polish why does Starbucks have an issue with partners having it? They are all about self expression by allowing people to show their tattoos, piercings, bright colored hair, but nail polish is pushing it too far. Now don’t get me wrong I’d get it if it was regular basic polish that chips but it’s not, I have gel polish that doesn’t chip off like regular polish. I don’t understand, if you’re a company that’s all about letting people have self expression then that should be within any form of self expression. We don’t handle food unless it’s with tongs & unless you’re sticking your hands into people’s drinks then there should be no reason partners cant paint their nails, and just to be clear I literally never work any other position then DTO or DTR so I literally touch nothing but the outside of the bag or cup. Lastly, my store manager even came through the drive thru today and saw my nails & said absolutely nothing about them & also another one of my coworkers had her nails painted a natural color & she’s worked for Starbucks on & off for like 12 to 13 years & she didn’t say anything about me not having my nails painted. I seriously don’t get this companies logic 🤷🏻♀️🙄🤦🏻♀️
CoffeeChesirecat 15 points 3y ago
Not being allowed painted nails is pretty standard for food places tbh. Everywhere I have ever worked has been like that though some managers have turned a blind eye. My manager let me know I had to get rid of the polish if I wanted to work at Starbucks during the interview. Sucks but it's policy. A lot of us went crazy with the nail polish while on cat pay, but it's back to bare nails now.
hopelovepeace33 [OP] -11 points 3y ago
Every food place I’ve worked at has never had an issue with me painting my nails. I understand the whole food safety but we have pre made frozen food (a position I don’t work) and like I said unless you’re putting your fingers into the drinks then I don’t see the issue. My SM never said anything about not having polished nails in my interview either & like I said he saw them today and didn’t say anything about it.
wontonbitch 12 points 3y ago
It's a sanitary issue that violates the state health code, it's not just part of a dress code, which by the way, communicated that nails aren't allowed. When you apply for your food handler's card, it's even talked about in the course. If you have nails, you are required to wear gloves. It's bigger than Starbucks.
If you were never told to remove your nails prior when working in the food industry, your manager was violating the health code. 🤷🏻♀️ Just because yourself and others don't hold you accountable doesn't mean it's *not* against the health code or the rules.
Edit: lmao I don't know why you're continuing to argue with people when it's a literal state *law*, not a suggestion. Nobody cares that you've worn nails before and haven't been told anything. A law is a law. Managers that enable your behavior are in violation of said law. Locations can be fined for violating these laws, and can eventually get shut down if they continue to violate health codes. It's not to stunt on your "self expression". For someone who likes to complain about Karens, you sure are acting like one.
If you were never told to remove your nails prior when working in the food industry, your manager was violating the health code. 🤷🏻♀️ Just because yourself and others don't hold you accountable doesn't mean it's *not* against the health code or the rules.
Edit: lmao I don't know why you're continuing to argue with people when it's a literal state *law*, not a suggestion. Nobody cares that you've worn nails before and haven't been told anything. A law is a law. Managers that enable your behavior are in violation of said law. Locations can be fined for violating these laws, and can eventually get shut down if they continue to violate health codes. It's not to stunt on your "self expression". For someone who likes to complain about Karens, you sure are acting like one.
hopelovepeace33 [OP] -9 points 3y ago
The only nails I have are my NATURAL NAILS, I NEVER wear acrylics because I physically cannot function with long nails. I also know that it’s bigger then Starbucks and I don’t have & have never had a food handlers card nor have I had to apply for one, it’s fucking putting shit in an industrial toaster over for christ sakes. Also literally never work at the warming station which is literally grabbing the frozen pre made food with tongs and putting it on paper, I’m not cutting up raw meat or vegetables nor am I tossing stuff with my hands into a pan and cooking it up. I would bag food and get people their drinks everyday for two years at chick fil a and none of my managers said anything about my nails being paints, in fact all of my managers had their nails done as well. Like I said I literally NEVER work at the warming station around food nor do I work on bar & with how often I’m washing my hands I’m pretty sure that they can deal with me having polish on for a week or two. Didn’t come on here for you to be an asshole, literally came on here to rant about stupid shit because they sure don’t seem to care when partners are making drinks with bleeding cuts, or un-bandaged cuts, or people with their fresh tattoos, or with dirty hands before all this covid stuff started because I never once saw anyone wash their hands before their shift started until now, & I’m talking about even before I started working at Starbucks I never saw people wash their hands, so you want to explain standards when I’ve seen places that are considered below Starbucks have higher standards then Starbucks.
seattle-random 5 points 3y ago
Why did you post a question if you already made up your mind? People are telling you the reason. Yet you continue to argue. Did any of your prior food service jobs gets a health inspection while you were working with your painted nails?
hopelovepeace33 [OP] -6 points 3y ago
Yea they did because I got them done every two to four weeks and no one said a damn thing to me, also I made the post to rant because I went all fucking day with no one saying ANYTHING (and they all saw my nails) to me until someone said OHHHH I’M GOING TO TELL and also my SM came through today and saw my nails and again didn’t say anything about them either. Also the people I worked with in prior food service had their nails done as well walked the health inspector through the place and they came back with their nails still done the next day. Also I’m not arguing I’m just stating facts my painted NATURAL finger nails are more sanitary than someone working with a bleeding cut (which I’ve seen) and also more sanitary than baristas hands were before all the covid stuff happened because at least people are washing their hands before they step onto the floor. So I’m not arguing I’m just stating that how is it cool for someone to come to work and not wash their hands before setting foot onto the floor & how is it cool for someone to work with an un-bandaged cut or tattoo or for them to sneeze and not wash their hands after which I’ve also seen even before I ever started working at Starbucks.
seattle-random 3 points 3y ago
Two wrongs don't make a right.
None of those situations is cool. But apparently no one is speaking up about those other things.
None of those situations is cool. But apparently no one is speaking up about those other things.
lizeken 4 points 3y ago
Damn bro that was violent. Maybe work on your customer service attitude lol
hopelovepeace33 [OP] -3 points 3y ago
I’ve got a perfect customer service attitude because all of my customers love me & I’ve never had a complaint about me ever. Also nothing I said was “violent” at all it was fact because I’m not prepping any sort of food that I need to touch everything we “make” is put into an industrial toaster, over priced microwave food so don’t think your some sort of master type chef because you know how to warm shit at Starbucks. Just because I cuss on here doesn’t mean that’s how I act towards my customers because my customers are actually a lot nicer than people on here.
lizeken 4 points 3y ago
Like others have said on this, it’s a health code law. I don’t want to put my hair in a ponytail because it gives me a headache but I do it because it’s a health code law to keep your hair pulled back. It’s as simple as that. If managers haven’t said anything about it then they’re violating health code. If you want to wear nail polish then don’t work in food service man
wontonbitch 2 points 3y ago
Lmao ok. You don't have your food handler's card, your manager doesn't hold partners accountable for their dress code and health standards. Washing hands, clean nails, gloves for cuts, are ALL things that *should* be standard. But there is also a sense of accountability. Your manager shouldn't have to tell you to put on gloves each time you get a booboo or to wash your hands each time they're cross contaminated. It's only *now* that these things are a huge issue because of the virus. Sounds like your store deserves to get shut down and is well on its way there.
I will reiterate my point since you cannot read: just because the managers of the places YOU'VE worked at haven't held their store and employees to the standard of the LAW, doesn't mean it's ok to have nail polish. You asked a question, you received your answer. No one here is being an asshole, you just don't like what you're being told, and I'm not here to tip toe around your feelings. Stop arguing like a petulant child and maybe you won't get lectured like one.
I will reiterate my point since you cannot read: just because the managers of the places YOU'VE worked at haven't held their store and employees to the standard of the LAW, doesn't mean it's ok to have nail polish. You asked a question, you received your answer. No one here is being an asshole, you just don't like what you're being told, and I'm not here to tip toe around your feelings. Stop arguing like a petulant child and maybe you won't get lectured like one.
hopelovepeace33 [OP] 0 points 3y ago
What you’re saying is no never mind to me cause I have zero clue as to who you are, you’re nothing but a username on a social media app and that’s it. Also no I do not have a food handlers card and neither does anyone else in my store because working in a place that’s considered fast food it is not required to have a food handlers card due to the fact that we simply toast pre made food. Also everyone at my store holds every one accountable we don’t need our SM to tell us what to do, because I’ve had to tell people as have others told co-workers to wash hands as well as sanitizing their hands, work area, and changing out the sanitizer water. Also I’ve seen that type of stuff at other Starbucks stores I’ve been to within multiple different states, I wasn’t just referencing stuff that I’ve seen strictly within my store. My store is the furthest from being shut down considering we stayed open the entire time through the partner 30 day leave & have had our inspections and clearly passed considering my store towards the end was the only store open within my district. Lastly I’m not arguing it’s called a discussion clearly something you don’t understand since you think I’m trying to argue & I can also read and I understood exactly what you said I’m just stating that where I live in a fast food style environment it is not required for me or anyone else to have a food handlers card to simply reheat food. Have a fantastic night & you should really retake that meeting and truly listen to where they tell you to be more empathetic towards partners & customers feelings it might do you some good because my god you must absolutely be awful to your partners & customers because you’ve got zero empathy towards people it seems like.
wontonbitch 2 points 3y ago
Don't preach about being empathetic when your first response was to cuss me and other people out. Bye.
donalson 7 points 3y ago
standard food service stuff... it can chip off and fall in the drink/food = not good eats and potentially dangerous.
october_ohara 2 points 1y ago
Probably
Not anymore dangerous than the sugar they are consuming from Starbucks
Not anymore dangerous than the sugar they are consuming from Starbucks
hopelovepeace33 [OP] -7 points 3y ago
I’ve worked in food service for years and have always gotten my nails painted when I could, also it’s gel polish so unless I pick at it then it’s not coming off. Ive seen people cut themselves and continue making drinks or warming food while bleeding so gel nail polish should be the least of people’s worries. Also I never work either of those positions & as much as we are washing our hands and sanitizing I’m pretty sure there isn’t anything growing in my nails.
GreenTourmaline13 2 points 3y ago
The polish isn't just about chipping, though obviously in days past where gel wasn't an option and in the case of acrylics, yeah, there was worry of breakage or something that can fall in ppls food or drink. However, the polish is considered a place bacteria can grow. Were we all supposed to wash our hands pre-shift, during shift, before/after breaks pre-covid? You bet. It just wasn't followed up on. I normally have gorgeous natural nails when sbux isn't killing them. It would be nice to wear polish. But, it's in the dress code, rather explicitly, and as previous posters have started, it is a state and health code violation. Regardless of if you're "ever" on warming or bar, and despite prefrozen food, you are still required to get the food handlers card. We are still providing a food service, and again, it's a violation if we don't comply. I'm definitely not trying to argue with you, just explain some of the whys.
hopelovepeace33 [OP] 0 points 3y ago
I always washed my hands before, during, and post shift but that’s just me because I grew up in a household where my mother works within healthcare so I know how germs spread. Also it is not required by Starbucks for you to have a food handlers card, it may be within your state but it’s not required by Starbucks for you to have one and not is it required in the state that I live within for fast food workers to have one either.
IcePhoenix96 3 points 3y ago
You shouldn't wear it, but judging by how you responded to the other commenters, you will continue to do so. So, what did you expect to gain by posting this?
Food safety clearly states nail polish is not allowed in any food service position, regardless of whether or not it is upheld by your ex-Christian company or by your current SM. You are currently getting away with it by your SM and SSVs not calling you out, but that is an exception to the rule.
If you wanted to complain about food safety standards you're gonna find it tough to get sympathy here amongst people who take pride in upholding those standards to best protect the customer.
Food safety clearly states nail polish is not allowed in any food service position, regardless of whether or not it is upheld by your ex-Christian company or by your current SM. You are currently getting away with it by your SM and SSVs not calling you out, but that is an exception to the rule.
If you wanted to complain about food safety standards you're gonna find it tough to get sympathy here amongst people who take pride in upholding those standards to best protect the customer.
october_ohara 1 points 1y ago
No more dangerous than all of the sugar people
Are consuming when they drink Starbucks
Are consuming when they drink Starbucks
hopelovepeace33 [OP] 1 points 3y ago
I honestly won’t because I just did it without thinking when I was getting my nails done & based on my past experience I never thought anything of it. I also responded the way I did because of the way the person named wontonBITCH responded to me, you get snappy & bitchy with me then your going to get it right back from me period. Also I was just stating facts about things that I’ve seen while working as well as being a customer at Starbucks on top of seeing them allow people to touch other people’s mobile orders before covid and how they are going to go back to allowing customers to come in and touch others mobile orders once they open the cafes back up for grab & go. I take pride in doing what I do as well, you can choose to believe me or not I just came on here to vent about stuff which I’m allowed to do, people don’t have to come back and be automatic assholes because I’ve had a different experience in the state I live. I know other states are far more strict when it comes to stuff like that, but no one on here needs to be acting as if they are some sort of food safety saint because I’m sure every person within the food industry has cut corners & done things they aren’t allowed to be doing and if you say you haven’t then you’re an absolute liar.
IcePhoenix96 2 points 3y ago
Of course people have cut corners and made mistakes, but they wouldn't aggressively defend their actions and be shocked when it wasn't supported by others. I, personally, don't know where you work or care a ton if you have nail polish on, I'm just saying you aren't gonna get vindicated and especially if you try to clapback with everyone.
hopelovepeace33 [OP] 1 points 3y ago
I don’t care either way what people say to me cause I have zero clue who they are & they don’t effect me or my mood. I’m not asking to be vindicated for anything I was just making a statement that I’ve worked in food service & no one has ever said you cannot have nail polish & like I said in my previous statement I didn’t think anything about it being an issue based on past experience. I’m not saying or doing anything “aggressively” but if you’re going to come at me with an aggressive attitude you’re going to get one back from me just like anyone else would do as well. There have been people on here who have made their statements without being hateful & rude so if they can do it so can others. I’m also not asking for sympathy from anyone because I don’t need it because again I wasn’t thinking about it being against the rules based on past work places not saying anything to me about having them painted. Lastly I’m not “clapping” back at anybody I’m just talking to them the exact way they talk to me so it is what it is there, if you take it any other way then that’s your choice.
colonade17 3 points 3y ago
It's health code. Nail polish has a risk of chipping and falling into someone's drink, and customers don't like that kind of extra sprinkles.
Chick-fil-a (and lots of other places) are violating health code if they let you have nail polish there. It's possible no-one cared or no-one noticed. But if the health inspector came in and saw it they could fine the store or shut it down until they got rid of the nail polish.
Chick-fil-a (and lots of other places) are violating health code if they let you have nail polish there. It's possible no-one cared or no-one noticed. But if the health inspector came in and saw it they could fine the store or shut it down until they got rid of the nail polish.
hopelovepeace33 [OP] -2 points 3y ago
Well the health inspectors came and didn’t shut us down because my managers saw it and never said anything to me in fact they said they liked them & they also had their nails done with polish on their nails. Granted my position and their positions at CFA were mainly up front & never touched any food except for putting stuff into the bag, I’m just stating my experience about never being reprimanded for having nail polish.
colonade17 1 points 3y ago
Your experience is more common than it should be in the food industry. Just because you or CFA got away with it doesn't make it ok because mistakes with health code can make your customers sick and even die. Lots of managers play fast and loose with health code because they know health inspectors usually only visit about once per year, and if they caught doing something wrong the most common penalty is small fine and a re-inspection where they're supposed to fix the problem.
hopelovepeace33 [OP] 0 points 3y ago
Thank you for being a decent person in your comment first and foremost. I never said anything was ok with breaking food & safety rules, I honestly just did it without thinking & based on my past experience didn’t think anything would be wrong with it & that’s on me. I just came on here to vent & say I’ve seen far worse things working & not working at Starbucks along with at other companies as well that have been a far worse violation then me having nail polish. I’m not going to do it again obviously because my shift said something to me but again it’s not the end of the world like some people were making it out to be.
ReEliseYT 1 points 3y ago
I just wish they wouldn’t lie to us. They say it’s against Ohio health code, despite literally every fast food place around us clearly having painted and acrylic nails. Hell I use to work in healthcare and would draw blood and place lines into ports that lead directly into people’s heart and even we were allowed to have painted nails. I suspect the main reason they don’t allow it is so customers can’t put nail chips in their drink and pitch a shit fit. I just wish they would be honest with us.
hopelovepeace33 [OP] 1 points 3y ago
Yea that’s honestly why I didn’t think anything about it at all because one I’ve had them painted before in the same state where I work & two I know numerous amounts of people who work in healthcare who draw blood all the way up to working in the O.R & they are allowed to have natural nail polish so I figured if it was ok for someone to have nail polish who cuts people open for a living then it be ok for me to do. Again like I said I wasn’t thinking I was just so freakin happy to get them done period because it had been a while and I was just like ohhh I’ll get them painted not thinking anything about it at all. Yea I get the reason but it’s not like it’s the end of the world we can just put on gloves like I did today & I also handed drinks out to customers & none of them turned their noses up at me for having polish on.
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