Tipping when using a debit or credit card?.(self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by Didmyownresearch
How is it that starbucks doesn’t have a tipping option when people use debit cards?. It’s 2020 and starbucks is a huge corp.
elsha007195 points3y ago
Please, call corporate and complain to them because we have been begging them for years to do this.
heathbar86122 points3y ago
As a 12 year partner, I can guarantee that this is because Starbucks values speed of service above all else. Adding a few seconds to transactions so we can make more in tips isn't worth it to a company obsessed with window times. Please continue to call corporate and request a cc tip option - - consumer pressure is the only way this will change!
hopelovepeace3332 points3y ago
People order crap at the window so how is adding a tip option to the credit card any big of a difference?
heathbar8619 points3y ago
Letting people order at the window works in *their* favor, letting them tip on a cc works in our favor. Guess which one is more important to corporate? It's frustrating but true.
beingalivesux7 points3y ago
AMEN, excellent point!
NY152Shopgirl5 points3y ago
Now with the chip reader the credit cards already slow down the speed of service. What’s another 10 seconds?
eilselserrot66 points3y ago
A customer wanted to leave a $10 tip the other day, but only had a credit card. Big :-(
perfecktenschlog30 points3y ago
bc their goal is getting people in and out fast and keeping fast window times so handing out a receipt for people to sign or having to give them our machine to tip would take too long
Kaywin5 points3y ago
Every so very infrequently, my credit card reader will ask the customer for a PIN. A tip takes about as long to enter as a PIN. If they don't want to tip they can just hit the green button at a $0.00 tip. It seems to me this takes just as long as the current system.
They'd just have to somehow make it so that if a custy yoinks their card out before confirming their tip, it'll still complete the transaction sans tip. I'm confident our technologically-proficient overlords can come up with something.
baz1lli0n21 points3y ago
I could go on about the forever. Starbucks makes it so that people have to go out of their way to tip. Even on the app, there is not tip option as you place your order. You can go back in after and leave a tip if you want, but most people who mobile order are driving or headed somewhere so they don’t. Or the no tip option on credit / debit cards - go to Peet’s and they have a screen that pops up with options for tipping.
We served 600 customers the other day and made $18 in tips. For the entire day. I’m not saying every customer has to tip, but I know plenty would if it were more convenient for them. For us, its a big deal when someone drops a $20 in the tip jar. It’s super generous and we are very thankful, but we shouldn’t have to rely on the generosity of single customers to fuel our tips for the week.
Having easier/accessible tipping methods does nothing but benefit partners. When I asked my DM why we don’t get tips on card transactions, he said that partners would have to report their tip earnings to the IRS. According to him, Starbucks already reports $0.30/hr for us, and that if we had to report actual earnings it would be less because it’s taxable. I’m not going to pretend to be super knowledgeable on how that kind of stuff is handled, but I do know my friend works at Dutch Bros, and they are told to report $1, no matter how much they actually make in tips. According to my coworkers who were servers in the past, this is typical when it comes to tips.
I don’t want to sound cruel or ungrateful. I am working through a pandemic making less than people on unemployment. I cannot quit and apply for unemployment because that would make me ineligible. My hours were halved because of labor cuts. I’m frustrated, and everyone at my store is too.
Kaywin3 points3y ago
>We served 600 customers the other day and made $18 in tips. For the entire day.
Oof, this hurt my heart to read :( Sorry friend.
>I don’t want to sound cruel or ungrateful. I am working through a pandemic making less than people on unemployment. I cannot quit and apply for unemployment because that would make me ineligible. My hours were halved because of labor cuts. I’m frustrated, and everyone at my store is too.
Have you heard about the new LOA system? You can take an unpaid LOA from Sbux to enroll in your local unemployment system, while retaining your insurance and eligibility for employment (I believe.)
Nigee_Ogee3 points3y ago
You can get unemployment due to hours being halved you know.
whatismineisyours1 points3y ago
Huh? That goes against what unemployment is, does it not? Even on CAT pay we are not unemployed. To my knowledge you have to be let go to qualify for unemployment.
Nigee_Ogee3 points3y ago
Due to the pandemic though they’ve changed the rules of “unemployment”. if your hours have been cut you can qualify.
whatismineisyours1 points3y ago
Who is they?
MonstrousGiggling1 points3y ago
Wow 600 customers and not even 100 of them could simply tip a dollar or more. People are fuckin' pathetic.
I ordered pizza today, usually I'd go grab it myself since it's really super close by, but my car is having some issues so I had it delivered. Tax + driver fee was already another like 6 bucks but you know what, I still tipped that driver $5 because there's a fuckin' pandemic and they earn that tip even if the drive is very short.
Nigee_Ogee1 points3y ago
You’re in California right? Or was I reading from someone else’s post?
fallinginnow6 points3y ago
A lot of people seem to think that its because of speed and mushing through as many customers as possible which is probably partly true, but one thing my store manager told me is that when cards/debits are used for tip, a portion of that is taken out through tax. So the reason we use cash is beca it isnt being taxed and all the partners split the full amount rather than a portion of the full amount.
Again this is just something i was told and i dont know how true it is, but it made sense to me
heathbar868 points3y ago
I think that's definitely part of it; I always leave cash tips when possible for this exact reason. But I would rather get *some* tips from people who only carry credit cards than *no* tips from them at all!
Kaywin2 points3y ago
>So the reason we use cash is beca it isnt being taxed and all the partners split the full amount rather than a portion of the full amount.
Starbucks already accounts for tips when they deduct taxes from your income (where I am, anyway.)
kobayashi-maruu5 points3y ago
this sucks a lot, you'd think it wouldn't be so hard because when I visit Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, they allow tips with cards! and they have some pre-set tip options, so it literally takes a second to leave a tip. so I always carry some cash with me to toss in the little boxes... sorry you guys have to deal with that nonsense :/
Loughiepop3 points3y ago
I worked at a Barnes and Noble Starbucks, and we weren’t even able to accept tips :(
Kyenne_Pepper1232 points3y ago
You can if you pay on the app but if your paying with your regular card you can’t. It’s stupid
jordan_leigh1 points3y ago
Not gonna lie. I really am fine with it not being an option. Just tell people to start using the app if they are that concerned with having the option to digitally tip.
cilantroprince1 points3y ago
even customers have mentioned this!! people all the time ask why there isn’t a tip option on the app, or say that they wish they could tip through their account because they didn’t bring cash! honestly our tips would skyrocket because the most generous people are usually starbucks regulars and they’re the ones most likely to use their account to pay
dhorner0171 points3y ago
They want people to use the Starbucks app :/
SmoochVoula1 points3y ago
Does it perhaps have anything to do with also complicating payroll? I am opening a cafe and my POS rep used Starbucks and dunkins as an example to NOT allow credit card tips (he and I got into a debate about it), BECAUSE it would cost us more money (the whatever percent we pay to process credit card payments means we pay x% to also process your tips so as a restaurant we eat that cost), and the fact that it will complicate payroll (end of the week whoever does payroll has to check and double check and triple check that gratuities are dispersed correctly because in my particular state they take gratuity dispersal VERY seriously). I think it’s very important that we allow tips at my cafe but my POS guy made it seem like a very dooms day situation.
potterlyfe1 points3y ago
I don’t buy that because we all ready disperse tips weekly amongst our partners. We have cash tips and tips from mobile orders. The mobile order tips are called out from the till and then all that money is added up and divvied our per partner. Due to the amount of people working it’s even easier to do tips. Everyone gets the same amount per hour. So it would just be a larger pot to start with. The only real complication would be converting the cc tips to cash so we could pay them out. We don’t carry a ton of money in store so more then likely there would need to be a way for those tips to transfer to a bank so they could be withdrawn.
inkiitora1 points3y ago
I honestly thought it was because they want to encourage people to use the mobile app instead of their card.
misodeadinside1 points3y ago
Yeah people actually ask all the time if they can tip using their card.
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