Starbucks Baristas: The daily grind
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Did anybody else get this bullshit? We’re being forced to choose between a forced leave of absence, quitting with severance, or working. Working may not always be available as an option though. What the hell....... (i.redd.it)
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ImaFknWizardXII 26 points 3y ago
Honestly I’m taking the hint and leaving. The company took a huge hit from COVID-19 and I don’t know about other places but just about every store in Portland, OR, and a bunch in Seattle has been heavily damaged or burned to the ground with the riots. They’ve lost a ridiculous amount of money this year company wide.
I joined Starbucks only for the free college. Gave up a $45k salary for this and now college isn’t an option as I can’t get the required hours.. It’s like a sign telling me it’s time to move on.
I joined Starbucks only for the free college. Gave up a $45k salary for this and now college isn’t an option as I can’t get the required hours.. It’s like a sign telling me it’s time to move on.
awarmlight 16 points 3y ago
Hey keep in mind that they are heavily ruduceing the hours required to earn benefits, so don't quit, you might still qualify for ASU. Talk to your SM.
qwasyas 4 points 3y ago
ASU is still protected even if we don’t get the hours! Stay strong babe. We all need that stupid diploma to prove that we’re smart.
Sir_Tomithy 2 points 3y ago
ASU unfortunately isn't protected. You can supplement your hours with vacation time if you get less than 20 hours in a week, but that's only if you have the accrued time.
Blackout62 3 points 3y ago
Wish it was that easy for me.
But also, good luck!
But also, good luck!
sillaf27 21 points 3y ago
Pretty generous options given the circumstances imo
nobullshitplz 34 points 3y ago
My store is a high volume store and we are selling more than did before we shut down for coronavirus. My store has never run out of stuff in the way that we are now doing. We are being asked to do more and more tasks and they are now trying to say we need to do it with less people, but we also have to be faster to do it. This isn’t a generous option. They’re literally saying 15 people overstaffed at my store even though we can barely manage to do our work now
sillaf27 14 points 3y ago
Everyone is getting those notices but from my understanding, if you work full time you won't be affected as much as those who come in twice or once a week
nightkat89 4 points 3y ago
Bullshit. I went from full time to 14 hours.
sillaf27 0 points 3y ago
I didn't say you wouldn't be affected at all. And the way things proceed is going to vary somewhat depending on location
ashtroidcat 3 points 3y ago
Hi, could you explain how people who work once/twice a week would be affected more? I'm trying to understand this better.
Spider939 6 points 3y ago
Right? Like I have problems with Starbucks like everyone else, but of all the companies I’ve ever worked for Starbucks is the only ones who have done *anything* for me. There are far, far worse place to be employed right now.
_Pulltab_ 12 points 3y ago
I mean, most service industry jobs just cut people with no advance warning and no severance when things get tight. What exactly are you looking for?
nobullshitplz 11 points 3y ago
The store to run with proper staff is what I’m looking for. Corporate in general might be tight, but my store is busier than ever. My entire district is reopened so we have more customers when we aren’t even getting other store’s customers
_Pulltab_ 5 points 3y ago
Yeah, I’d like to see our store run with proper staff, too, but my gut tells me they won’t be looking at labor on much of a case by case basis. I anticipate they’ll be told that there’s a percentage cut in labor hours across the board, regardless of sales projections for individual stores. They’ll probably go in an tweak individuals stores after a few weeks, but I wouldn’t look for it to be dramatic.
nobullshitplz 1 points 3y ago
My store specifically said we have too many people, 15 to be exact. That’s what my acting store manager told me. While I agree with you it does look like it’s more of a uniform policy and it could take a bit before they focus on individual stores, I do have to disagree with corporate o that approach. My store is typically rated as the second best in the district, although I’m not sure if it went up to the number one spot during this or not, and all I know is that we won’t be prepared to stay towards the top with what they’re saying
ginaginabeana 9 points 3y ago
At my store we were basically told that if we take the LOA that we would get fired:(
netocanessa 9 points 3y ago
They can’t fire you for taking LOA it’s part of the deal.
Dsgrcfl 6 points 3y ago
The document on the hub says that partners will be given the option of coming back at the end or will be terminated based on business needs
netocanessa 4 points 3y ago
Ok so I’ve read the whole document and I went back and re read it after seeing your comment and I don’t see where it says that. What it does say is that we are subject to be called back even before September 30th, which is when the LOA is supposed to end, at our manager’s discretion meaning if business is picking up and they need the help, you can be called back in. The one thing that it does say that comes close to your statement is that if and when you are called in you fail to return on the date that your manager asked you, you will be “subject to separation as a a voluntary resignation”. When your manager calls you, they have to give you at least 7 days before your first shift, and if you need it you can ask up to 14 days before your first shift, I’m reading it off the document as I type this. I doubt that Starbucks is the kind of company who would offer you these choices and reprimand you for it, if you chose LOA your job should be secured and ready for you once the 120 days pass or you are called back earlier if your manager needs the help. Now if you don’t got back when you are supposed to, that’ll be a different story. I know that the story differs especially with how some SM’s are delivering the news it seems some are trying to scare their employees into taking option 1, don’t let them, stay informed, read the whole document yourself and go to your DM or above if you’re not finding the support in your SM.
sassy7girl 2 points 3y ago
Also:
“When I return to work will I return to the same store and position?”
A: “When partners are recalled back to work, they will return at the position they held prior to the COVID LOA
Partners may return to their home store or if able to return to a different location in the district that is within a commutable distance for the partner.”
“When I return to work will I return to the same store and position?”
A: “When partners are recalled back to work, they will return at the position they held prior to the COVID LOA
Partners may return to their home store or if able to return to a different location in the district that is within a commutable distance for the partner.”
kylakat13 6 points 3y ago
I've heard that they can and will fire people if they're not needed. They'll probably let them come back for a few weeks and then fire them for a made up reason.
Raychable 8 points 3y ago
Taking the LOA is a bit of a gamble. The intention is to retain your job for you, however, they will still need people to work. they’re likely to hire while people are out on LOA, in which case if in September you want to come back but your home store is fully staffed, they can tell you that due to business needs there isn’t need to support your employment. It depends on where you are. At Will work states like Georgia, Tennessee, New York, all can work like that.
nobullshitplz 5 points 3y ago
Doesn’t sound like a real choice but even then saying you want to work is the best job security anyway
starsickles 7 points 3y ago
This is fucking crazy
nobullshitplz 6 points 3y ago
Yep
sassy7girl 7 points 3y ago
We may not get our choice either-
wonder if it works both ways then? Choose LOA but they could give you separation?
Has anyone heard?
The FAQ related to partner pref. In the partner care pdf in page 11 of 12 says-
Q. “ what factors did SBux use to determine if partner preferences were honored or how partners were selected to have their preferences
honored?”
A “the determination was made based on biz needs for staffing, partner preferences and partners availability relative to business needs.
In the event that this criteria wasn’t sufficient to reduce the #’ of partners competing for hours mgr’s considered documented corrective actions (final written warning or multiple written warnings in the last year) & company tenure. Undocumented performance issues were not considered.”
wonder if it works both ways then? Choose LOA but they could give you separation?
Has anyone heard?
The FAQ related to partner pref. In the partner care pdf in page 11 of 12 says-
Q. “ what factors did SBux use to determine if partner preferences were honored or how partners were selected to have their preferences
honored?”
A “the determination was made based on biz needs for staffing, partner preferences and partners availability relative to business needs.
In the event that this criteria wasn’t sufficient to reduce the #’ of partners competing for hours mgr’s considered documented corrective actions (final written warning or multiple written warnings in the last year) & company tenure. Undocumented performance issues were not considered.”
nobullshitplz 5 points 3y ago
The thing is I believe we do have enough people at my store. We just need better scheduling and add more hours
sassy7girl 2 points 3y ago
Very very sad, indeed. Working harder, w less labor- with same sales & customer counts
nobullshitplz 3 points 3y ago
Our sales have increased dramatically actually
sassy7girl 2 points 3y ago
I’m not sure labor is forthcoming -unfortunately -I think we’ll be doing more with less labor unless we earn it thru as example increased food sales.. etc.
nobullshitplz 8 points 3y ago
My store has been selling food like crazy and selling out of food that we never sell out of. We’re still losing people and labor from all of this
StormTheParade 1 points 3y ago
No images of internal media - sorry!
yahooanonbar 1 points 3y ago
At least corporate, district, and senior leadership don’t have to sacrifice anything.
Essential workers to expendable workers.
Essential workers to expendable workers.
nobullshitplz 1 points 3y ago
Normally I’m against the hate here that goes against corporate but man I can’t side with them right now. They’re claiming that there’s a lack of money when stores are busy as hell selling high profit margin drinks and selling out of limited time cups for sale. Something is wrong
yahooanonbar 1 points 3y ago
Corporate is an easy target and a lot of hate is unjustified but to spend this much time and effort to make cuts to stores and not show any non-store cuts demonstrates how disconnected senior leadership is and how little ‘partners’ we are in this business.
Yes - partners were paid during quarantine. But doing the right thing then doesn’t justify these actions now.
Yes - partners were paid during quarantine. But doing the right thing then doesn’t justify these actions now.
Mayachees 1 points 3y ago
This is crazy!
I wonder what it ultimately means .
I’m at a licensed store, so things will be different for us.
I wonder what it ultimately means .
I’m at a licensed store, so things will be different for us.
nobullshitplz 1 points 3y ago
Hard to say. Licensed stores are at will of the grocery stores, colleges, etc. that they’re located. Not sure how colleges would do things but grocery stores haven’t really shut down so I’m not sure there would be too big of a difference for them. I hope that’s the case at least
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