Hey guys, everything is moving quickly and it is a scary time. We have only until this Sunday to make our decision so I made this chart in hope it helps. If you guys notice/find anything to add, please do.(i.redd.it)
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dancing_durian [OP]53 points3y ago
I did read through the other pages (there are 12 in the PDF). Yes, with reduced hours, you might potentially lose your eligibility for ASU.
With option 1, you can file for partial unemployment. Check with your state.
Option 2 will only pay you UP TO 20 hours a week.
sassy7girl11 points3y ago
I would think option 2- IF we’re eligible for u/e - and that’s A big IF/ even tho they say they’ll report it as involuntary loss of hours not a voluntary LOA- I’m thinking it’d be based thru employment commission analysis of your actual average hours worked over past 18 mos..
We may not get our choice but also- does anyone know if it might work the other way?
Ie choose LOA but they give you “separation “???
See page 11 of 12 on the pdf for faq in Det. Our preferences:
Q: What factors did Starbucks use to determine if partner preferences were honored or how partners were selected to have their preferences honored?
A: The determination was made based on business needs for staffing, partner preferences and partners’ availability relative to the business needs. In the event that this criteria wasn’t sufficient to reduce the number of partners competing for hours managers considered documented corrective actions (Final Written Warning or multiple Written Warnings in the past year) and company tenure. Undocumented performance issues were not considered.
dancing_durian [OP]13 points3y ago
Oh that sounds scary. I missed that part about potentially being separated but I can see how that might be. Yeah, unemployment is always a gamble. Especially the majority of the country is relying on unemployment. But I’m not expert on that front. I choose to work because I’m able and I don’t want to put any more stress on the unemployment situation.
elodieme17 points3y ago
My SM told me option 3 is the only one where the SM has no say. Option 2 depends on the business and if enough people decided to stay. If after all option 2 does not work for you, you can pick options 1 or 3, but they won't force you to take 3
kutl3ss1 points3y ago
The SM has no say on option 3? I was scared it would be denied if I selected that as my preference considering I'm in such a high volume district. Do you know if I tell the SM tomorrow that I chose option 3, that it would be my last day there?
averysillyfellow11 points3y ago
You will not get separated unless you choose it, according to a DM.
AndGood10 points3y ago
My SM has told me that they cannot force separation. They can make us take either option 1 or 2 but they can’t force us to take 3.
sassy7girl3 points3y ago
Gotcha- good to know, ty!
heeyloves4 points3y ago
I’m confused though, do we lose all benefits like insurance and stuff like that???
dancing_durian [OP]8 points3y ago
For option 3, yes. If you do leave, you will get like an insurance paid out/assistance through COBRA and all your vacation/sick time paid out. For option 1 and 2, you do retain your insurance no matter the hours you work but I do believe with option 2, it’s a little icky. All the benefits like food, drinks, Lyra, Spotify, care.com, etc. stay the same with 1 and 2.
elsha0077 points3y ago
They only pay out vacation time, not sick time.
gigihadidisnotamodel5 points3y ago
in my meeting my ASM said that they are paying out accrued sick hours if you choose to separate
rustybaps1 points3y ago
WHAT IS THIS ABOUT I MISSED IT PLS HELP
dancing_durian [OP]3 points3y ago
Furlough effort. You’re presented with 3 options about whether to stay or leave. Search Partner Care Preference on the hub.
bigThinc52 points3y ago
it’s genuinely stupid that we lose asu no matter what. that’s not very inspiring or nurturing 😐
loveualatte23 points3y ago
We shouldn't lose ASU. My understanding after speaking with my manager was that our goal is to give every remaining partner at least 20 hours for those who remain. As the only partner in my store attending ASU I stressed my need of at least 20 hours a week to remain eligible. I'm really lucky tho as I have a very caring manager so he will ensure I can still remain eligible. I also found that we can use vacation and sick time to supplement possible hours missed. Sorry for the long reply but hopefully this information helps those who are curious.
KatySheets4 points3y ago
I was told that we will not lose our scholarship if our hours dip below 20/week. Is Starbucks doing away with ASU altogether no matter what option we choose?
loveualatte1 points3y ago
I haven't heard anything about either things.
dancing_durian [OP]14 points3y ago
I feel for those going to ASU to go to the next place in their lives. They do pay for one more semester with option 3 I believe.
gigihadidisnotamodel37 points3y ago
I want to work, but the opportunity to take unemployment is tantalizing.... People i know are making almost 4x on unemployment what i make for the siren. That money could give me an opportunity to finally save some money and not spend 70% of my monthly income on rent for once. But flip side, i live in florida where unemployment is FUCKED and i could be waiting months to see a dime from them. if i chose to stay, i was told my hours could be slashed down to 12-18/week, which i absolutely CANNOT live off of. this is a really difficult decision for me and i feel for others in the same boat.
sheambulance10 points3y ago
The $600 additional unemployment benefit ends at the end of July.
maryhooy5 points3y ago
Tell me about it. I have a cousin who worked 3 weeks in his lifetime(doesn’t go to school) that filed for unemployment and makes twice as much as me(whose parents make $190k I might add) when I get to work 30 hours average. Making ends meet is already hard but I would love to stay at home since I’m the only parent working and I have a daughter who has to do 25 hours of therapy a week and a step daughter who has two more months of school :(
srawtzl2 points3y ago
two weeks from now I’m scheduled for a total of 14 hours. I’m freaking out.
honestly I haven’t liked this job in years but during this crisis I’ve realized how much I do appreciate just having a job, especially a job that provides benefits (health insurance in particular rn), and offers things like the cat pay.
I can’t survive on 14 or even 20 hours a week, but who tf is hiring now?
NOTcreative-20 points3y ago
You have until Sunday to give a preference. You have until Wednesday to give final answer. Every single partner should be getting a 1 on 1 connect with their SM where these options are presented and an opportunity for questions is presented. If that is not the case by Friday, please call PRSC and tell them you keep hearing about this but haven’t been given an explanation.
dancing_durian [OP]6 points3y ago
This is helpful. Thank you. I didn’t know about Wednesday. My SM just keeps saying preference and that we have to turn it in on Saturday. Even though the paper says Sunday. Thank you 🙏
NOTcreative-3 points3y ago
Yeah we have to have everything compiled and sent off to our bosses on Sunday as far as preferences go. so I’ve told all my partners Saturday three days should be plenty of time to consider options and have a preference by then. I also did all of mine yesterday so there’s that. Happy to help!
mbr00001 points3y ago
Is this for all states? My manager told me all about this today and said I have until Friday to decide. Two days to deliberate is not enough time tbh.
NOTcreative-1 points3y ago
You have till EOD Friday than. Which would give you Wednesday, Thursday, majority of Friday. They probably just want to get ahead of it. If you really need another day tell them and ask if you can get it to them Saturday for sure. Should be supportive.
Sbuxfacts1 points3y ago
This is not accurate.
You have until Sunday to give your preference to your SM. During this second meeting, you'll be asked questions in order to flesh out some of the details like which stores you would be willing to help out if you end up staying on.
On Monday, the SMs and DMs are meeting to go over all preferences in the district. They need to balance everyone across the district to keep all of the stores open. For instance (extreme example), if all of the partners in one store prefer to separate, the DM needs to decide if they might need to transfer partners around/decline some LOA preferences in order to keep the example store open. This will vary widely based on state/geographic location. Downtown areas are much easier to transfer partners around.
Tuesday through Friday, the SM will meet with all partners again to tell them the final decision that was made by the DM and SM with the partner preferences taken into account.
NOTcreative-0 points3y ago
You’re entire point is surrounded around partners who are taking option one.
Sbuxfacts1 points3y ago
Really, it's based on preference 1 and 2. You, as the SM, are able to tell your partner that you need them to stay and decline their LOA preference after your district meeting on Monday.
NOTcreative-1 points3y ago
I don’t know what staffing is like in your districts but in most it should be unlikely to have to deny anyone the LOA. I don’t think we can, in the future as business picks up we can call them back. But my district is pretty staffed some stores have more partners than hours so we will be discussing moving partners who choose option 1 to stores that need more help. I also have a long list of candidates in my hiring portal (more than I’ve ever seen in such a short period). It should be unlikely anyone is denied option 2. If that’s the case on Monday partners can still decide option 3 on Wednesday.
weirdpodcastaunt1 points3y ago
My meeting about it is Thursday. Whoops.
nightskydoxus19 points3y ago
I wasn’t given any kind of decision? What’s this about?
dancing_durian [OP]15 points3y ago
This partner posted this which I think is a helpful place to start
Yep nothing’s guaranteed- even if they say they report LOA as involuntary loss of hours- it still could backfire somehow. Working is a pretty safe choice! Good luck & stay well!!!
dancing_durian [OP]6 points3y ago
Thank you. You as well.
Fantaseaa14 points3y ago
I’ve literally been going over these options for the past two days and I still have no idea what to do. I’m so pissed these are the only options we have :( Has anyone else decided what they are going to do?
dancing_durian [OP]7 points3y ago
I’m going with 1 because I’m able to work and I don’t wanna contribute to the unemployment thing. But I’m also in the position that I’m able to and I recognize that not everyone has the privilege.
Fantaseaa11 points3y ago
I really don’t want to leave because I love my customers and coworkers so much but I literally have 7 hours on the schedule next week. I live alone and have to support myself. If I stay I’ll literally be homeless :( Such a tough decision to make
crimsonfox195 points3y ago
Yep that’s how I feel too. I live alone and I might just have to take option 3 just so that I can job hunt. There are a couple of jobs I’m looking at that hasn’t stopped hiring through all of this so I’m hoping. Then again I haven’t even been told about these options yet. I get to be told on Friday... so that’ll be fun.
ashtroidcat3 points3y ago
I believe you can still job hunt and work somewhere else with option 2? You might just be recalled and have to come back though.
Fantaseaa2 points3y ago
Same. I’ve been applying to different jobs all day. I hope we both find something better. Good luck, my friend. I’m so sorry this is happening to everyone
electric__shepherd1 points3y ago
You can still apply for unemployment assistance or at least $1 with reduced hours
saadro7 points3y ago
I totally support your choice I just hope you know that receiving unemployment benefits does NOT take them away from anyone else. That’s not how the system works. You would not be contributing to any “thing”
dancing_durian [OP]2 points3y ago
Thank you. I didn’t look at it in that way. Personally I know there are people out there who need it more and if I can work for as long as possible, I would like to do it.
littleedge4 points3y ago
Yeah never feel bad for taking unemployment. Only feel bad for taking unemployment and cheating the system. In normal times, people send in awful resumes to businesses to stay on unemployment and not get hired. Provided you don’t do things like that, you’re fine.
Earning money at a job indirectly contributes to unemployment. It’s part of the fringe rate of total compensation. It’s okay to take it when you need to.
saadro3 points3y ago
But there is not a finite amount available to be paid out for unemployment. So even if someone else “needs it more” you would not use up money that could go to someone needier. Starbucks pays for unemployment insurance to cover us for situations exactly like this. If you qualify, even from reduced hours if you’re still working, you should apply.
pookienoodlin2113 points3y ago
I worked corporate through the 2007 recession and was lucky to get 13 hours a week and that was after covering shifts at other stores. Take the severance package and find something else.
piratedashel3 points3y ago
I was a barista during the recession. Jobs were so hard to find, I don’t know. Even Starbucks had a hiring freeze and they laid off a ton of ASMs. I’m going with option 2 because I’m immunosuppressed and in an active flair but I fear as a shift I’ll be recalled. I want to stay at Starbucks but i live in a community that isn’t taking it all that seriously. Thankful I have the option to take my coffee break if it comes down to it.
SkullJooce9 points3y ago
Wtf my manager said I had until end of business today to make a choice
dancing_durian [OP]6 points3y ago
That is horrible! And an SM on here said that next Wed is the REAL deadline.
SkullJooce4 points3y ago
My SM is known for being full of it... I should have known. We had our talk over the phone and it seemed like she was trying to get me to decide then, but I asked how much time I had and that’s what she gave me. She then emailed me more info and reiterated her deadline. I fell for it and panicked and made a decision and now I feel tricked. I chose preference 2, and when I asked for more clarification on what that would look like she told me she’ll get back to me next Tuesday... feeling kinda awful rn haha
dancing_durian [OP]3 points3y ago
I’m so sorry. And that’s why I posted this in hope I’m spreading more information. In this time, information is our greatest weapon to weather this. I know a lot of SM, and it sounds like yours is one, is being super shady about all this and going out of their ways to influence decisions in their favor. Don’t worry. Option 2 is great. You still keep all your basic benefits and your healthcare premium is paid. And remember, you can be called back to work any time, if your store needs you. Again, I’m so sorry your SM was trying to pull one over on you.
SkullJooce2 points3y ago
Thank you for your kind words. My main store is still closed so my crew is scattered all over our district — I’m pretty isolated at my temporary location
Southern-Milk1 points3y ago
My district had a deadline on today as well cause we are so large and have many partners and we have our district meeting on friday. Store manager also got the information very quickly and had to change schedules again and find the time for partner conversations . Then we are going to have to change schedules again once this is figured out.
starsickles8 points3y ago
This is insanity....I cannot fucking believe this.
whatismineisyours8 points3y ago
What is going on now?
jumpingsquid7 points3y ago
It’s Wednesday and I’ve been working all week - not one peep from my store manager or coworkers on all of this. Like, what do I do? It’s like this isn’t even a thing? I’d rather it not be sprung on us last minute. No info whatsoever.
gaayrat4 points3y ago
Same
jumpingsquid3 points3y ago
Sorry you’re also in the dark - I hope you get some clarity on this soon, too.
gaayrat2 points3y ago
You too! It’s just wild to me that my SM/ASM haven’t said anything. They’ve been pretty good about keeping us informed up until now
jumpingsquid2 points3y ago
It’s so funny - we are in the exact same boat.
Sbuxfacts1 points3y ago
It's worth noting that this is for US corporate stores only. If you fit that criteria, please contact you SM/DM/PRSC directly to ask about it. The SMs have until Friday to have a 1:1 with every partner.
jumpingsquid2 points3y ago
I’m in NY, our café store has cut hours but not dramatically, but I understand this is a company-wide thing, not store dependent. I’ll try to speak up. Thanks!
Southern-Milk1 points3y ago
It's possible your manager on got the info monday
Alicat-and-Quasar6 points3y ago
For option 3, is there a set amount of time we have to wait before applying or being hired by Starbucks again?
BigTexSM-13 points3y ago
Technically it´s 6 months... but a SM can rehire at any point. Personally, I would not re-hire anybody that took Option 3. Plus, alot of SM´s need DM approval for re-hire... and I doubt DM´s will take kindly to people taking Option 3 as well.
graywes8 points3y ago
If I had a great partner who financially needed better options to take care of themselves than I could provide, I would whole-heartedly support them taking Option 3.
If that partner came to me a few months later seeking employment, and my business was in a better position to support their needs, I’d definitely rehire that person.
littleedge3 points3y ago
Your justification for not rehiring someone who takes option 3 is...?
BigTexSM-2 points3y ago
My justification is based on the retention rate of re-hires for over a year is less than 10%. I have extremely low turnover at my store, so anybody who has left the company previously is not likely to come back and commit over a year. There may be some great re-hires... but PCC told me it´s less than 10%. I´m just not interested in re-hiring somebody who uses Starbucks as a ¨crutch¨ and will bounce back-n-forth between different opportunities. I am saying this for ANY re-hire (not just someone who needs money now and opts for Option 3).
srawtzl2 points3y ago
except usually people aren’t being forced out. if someone chooses option 3 it’s going to be for extremely different reasons than a decision made to leave the company during normal times. why should someone who didn’t want to leave but feels 3 is the best option for them right now be looked at any differently than someone who chooses 2?
I’m really glad you weren’t in charge of hiring when I came back almost three years ago ffs.
Sbuxfacts1 points3y ago
DMs don't approve rehires, the PRSC does.
It's possible that the rehire limit is different state to state, but where I am, a former partner is able to be rehired immediately. In fact, if they are rehired within 13 weeks, they retain their old pay rate.
For partners taking Preference 3, it stands to reason that your SM will no doubt prioritize bringing back the partners on LOA before they would consider rehiring you.
elodieme16 points3y ago
I was also told with option 3 that if you are a shift, you might not be rehired as one. Baristas get 60 hours paid and shifts get 84
dancing_durian [OP]2 points3y ago
Yes to the hours paid. It’s not like a definite ‘oh you won’t get rehired if....’ it’s just that one, on a typical shift, you’ll have one keyholder and a bunch of baristas so keyholders are not necessary to keep in abundance. And two, I imagine that if they can pay people less, they would. So they wouldn’t want to keep a lot of shifts in a store.
elodieme12 points3y ago
My hours as shift are guaranteed if I stay at least, I'm just thinking of the LOA because as much as I love my job and I love my job and my baristas, I'd get more money with the extra covid money. I explained it to my SM and he completely understood and was on my side
dancing_durian [OP]1 points3y ago
that’s wonderful to see a manager being so supportive. Good luck.
Getpa5 points3y ago
So the way my SM explained it, there’s a greater chance of losing SCAP eligibility with preference 1 due to it relying on your hours and the company can only guarantee so many hours.
Can anyone confirm or deny? The document itself makes it seem like our eligibility wouldn’t be affected by preference 1. The SCAP is the main reason I started working at Starbucks so it is the deciding factor for me to keep it as long as possible.
BigTexSM3 points3y ago
I will confirm what your SM told you. If you don´t work enough qualifying hours under Option 1, you will lose SCAP. On Option 2, you will be quaranteed 20 benefit hours weekly. Talk to you SM... they should be honest about what they can foreseeably give you (especially if you´re on SCAP).
Getpa2 points3y ago
Thank you so much, that helps inform my decision.
dancing_durian [OP]1 points3y ago
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought the verbiage on option 2 is UP TO 20 hours? It’s not a guarantee and you DO risk losing your ASU availability.
BigTexSM3 points3y ago
Itś 20 hours for a full week. It´s prorated (UP TO 20 hours) if you come back/called back in the middle of the week. You risk losing ASU eligibility only if prior to the LOA you didn´t bank enough hours to meet the new eligibility amounts.
P_2_P3 points3y ago
My mother always said, never kill yourself for a job that can replace you in a minute. If your need for money outweighs your fear of exposure, then probably keep working. I’m sure you’ll figure out what works best for you.
allie_would3 points3y ago
I'm confused by the ASU thing? What it's sounding like on here is that you have to have an average of 20 hours to remain eligible for ASU? What about the 480 hours reduced thing for this quarter to remain eligible for benefits, is SCAP not a part of that?
dancing_durian [OP]2 points3y ago
No. I was actually shocked to read that ASU is not a guaranteed thing. I might have been wrong but do go on Partner Hub and search Partner Care Preference, there’s a 12 page PDF and one of the pages specifically mentioned ASU.
CoffeeChesirecat2 points3y ago
Yes, THIS. I thought ASU was safe along with other benefit hours.
KatySheets1 points3y ago
Same. I would really like to know if I need to look for other employment/education options.
beautifulsubterfuge3 points3y ago
Does anyone know if this is happening in Canada as well? I’ve been off the last week for covid isolation and haven’t heard anything about this
dancing_durian [OP]2 points3y ago
I think Canada is safe. This is an effort to furlough people because it’s not possible to keep everyone on payroll.
pettygirl881 points3y ago
I was just wondering this! I was at work yesterday and my manager didn’t say anything about it, neither did any of my partners so I feel like it must not be happening here ?
lachance993 points3y ago
do we know how much money would be paid up front if we were to choose option 3?
snowpeech3 points3y ago
>you're getting paid 60 hours and Sbux will contribute to COBRA
dancing_durian [OP]1 points3y ago
And if you’re a shift, you’re getting 84 hours.
butterflykisses7891 points3y ago
My SM told me we had to of worked a certain amount of hours to be eligible for option 3 - I can not find this information anywhere??!!
jemappellepatty2 points3y ago
I am no longer a barista. I work in North Carolina.
Please get clarification before choosing option 2 or 3 if you plan on relying on unemployment (even if just through the end of July) while keeping yourself safe/making other plans/whatever it may be.
My employer reduced my hours (and others), gave us options (such as taking unpaid LOA or working hours at a different site--for example I was given a site 2 hours from my 'home' facility and declined because I wasn't given mileage pay as well), but when we applied for unemployment for reduced hours due to COVID19, we were denied because we didn't give the company the equivalent of choice 1 (staying with full or reduced hours wherever needed).
I just don't want anyone out there getting blindsided. I would hope Starbucks wouldn't do this, but it's not the same company I used to work for. It's heartbreaking.
Southern-Milk2 points3y ago
Nobody is doing 3 unless the partner decides it. If you opt for 2 you get all your benifits and still can work at another job but can be called back to work with a 21 day notice.
Dont over think it. #2 is a good option if it happens. Unemployment is different based on state. But even on 1 you can apply for patoal unemployment but on 1 you can risk losing health beni or asu if you dont get the 20hr a week.
Sbuxfacts1 points3y ago
You can be recalled from Preference 2 with a 7 day notice, as stated in the Partner Care Preference FAQ document.
dancing_durian [OP]1 points3y ago
You risk losing ASU. Health benefits are not affected. For option 1. At least until September.
Hermione1172 points3y ago
So i’m leaving the Bux.. I got a salary job offer and am taking it. I handed in my two weeks. do i still qualify?
dancing_durian [OP]3 points3y ago
I think for that you may need to talk to your manager for clarification. And congrats. That’s exciting.
sassy7girl2 points3y ago
Gotcha- good to know, ty!
nilrehsttam2 points3y ago
Where is OP from? Is this everywhere? I live in Ohio where everything isn't that bad and I've not seen this. Any more info would be appreciated
dancing_durian [OP]14 points3y ago
Hey I’m Maryland. As far as I understand, it’s company wide that we have till Sunday to turn in our decisions. Your SM should have started talking to people on Monday and collecting their decisions. You can read the 12 page PDF by going on Partner Hub and search for ‘Partner Care Preference’
SkylerSayys4 points3y ago
Also in MD and have heard nothing. I just sent this post to my SM to ask whats going on. Maybe its a store by store thing? Some stores may have the ability to keep going as is because they never fully closed and business didnt drop that much? As opposed to company wide? Idk. I can update when I get a response, but my SM is pretty great at communication so if i haven't heard anything I really wonder if it's every store thats affected.
Update: my sm said my store isn't too overstuffed so its not a huge issue with us, but hes having these conversations this week with people. At the end of the day the dm gets final say. So it could be youre working at a store that is understaffed or just fine as far as staff goes if you haven't heard anything, or it could be the sm is gonna bring it up soon. Probably will bring it up either way if they're a good sm.
AndGood2 points3y ago
That might be possible, but it also could be just that your SM hasn’t talked to you yet
BigTexSM1 points3y ago
It´s nationwide. I´m sure you´re SM will be discussing soon with you. I´ve already completed all of my discussions with my entire team. We were given a set number of partners for our individual store... goal is to reach that number in the next 2 weeks... at any cost.
josiecelena2 points3y ago
I'm also in Ohio and our SM told us about it yesterday
nilrehsttam2 points3y ago
Hmm I have a 1 on 1 today maybe that could be told there
Truckyea_191 points3y ago
I believe this is all partners everywhere, I'm in IL ( suburbs of Chicago, we've been having 1 on 1 with SM all week on this. It was very brief, she read some stuff on it & advised us to do more reading/ research online. Wish they gave us more than a few days for our final answer
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dancing_durian [OP]2 points3y ago
There’s a manager on here that said they’re process all leave on the 11th and that should be the last day but do clarify with your SM. If he/she can’t provide an answer, call PCC.
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SatanicCat6661 points3y ago
Question. Is your store manager supposed to come to you with this? I'm on workers comp right now due to a work injury and I haven't heard a word from my SM about this.
dancing_durian [OP]2 points3y ago
If you are on their payroll, they must. For some strange reasons, a lot of SM have not been proactive about reaching out to partners about this so I’m not sure. Wait till tomorrow. If you haven’t heard anything, reach out to your SM.
SatanicCat6662 points3y ago
Yeah my SM is shite. My fiance who works in the same store hasn't heard anything about this from her either and he of course still currently working.
dancing_durian [OP]3 points3y ago
If you are at home and have time, do go on Partner Hub and search Partner Care Preference. Download the 12 page PDF and give it a thorough read. That way you are informed and have time to sit with decisions and maybe brainstorm questions before your meeting with your SM. Wishing you the best of luck.
SatanicCat6662 points3y ago
As of right now I'm on workers comp for the unforeseeable future. Did massive damage to my arm and wrist. Not sure if it will get better so I honestly don't know if I'll even be going back to work. I read the PDF yesterday when I first found out about this. I'm absolutely devastated because I really love my job. But maybe the severance package would be the best for me but with what happened with my arm, I don't know. 😭
Sbuxfacts2 points3y ago
There's exceptions to this. If a partner is on a 'protected' leave, (like a medical leave), the SMs were told specifically not to contact those partners. I don't know for sure, and it might vary state to state, but there might be legal barriers in presenting these options to someone in that situation.
SatanicCat6661 points3y ago
I should call my lawyer. Lol our store went through 5 people getting fired through the pandemic. I wanted to make sure my ass was covered so I got representation with an workman's comp lawyer. Now I feel it was the best decision ever.
Meme_Ursula1 points3y ago
When does this take effect? Is it as soon as we give them our choice or later?
dancing_durian [OP]2 points3y ago
I believe with option 3, the day you turn in your decision is your walk away moment.
Sbuxfacts3 points3y ago
No. Separations are processed on 6/11. LOA starts 6/15.
E: I suppose there's nothing to stop you walking out, though? I just would want anyone to do anything that might jeopardize their severance package.
maddyyy131 points3y ago
Wow thank you so much for posting this. My manager hasn’t spoken a single word about this, I had no idea.
dancing_durian [OP]1 points3y ago
Absolutely. Any way I can help at all. From my understanding, this might not happen to a lot of stores that do extremely high volume? All this is is an effort to ‘furlough’ (their word) a bunch of partners bc they can’t keep ALL of us on payroll.
littleedge2 points3y ago
Furlough typically means to take folks off payroll, with or without benefits, allowing them to apply for unemployment, with an expectation that they will come back at a later date. This is best for staff as they are basically guaranteed their job at the end of the period or earlier.
Compared to a lay-off, which provides some sort of immediate compensation for the staff, potentially short term benefits, but the person is no longer an employee.
Just some HR jargon for ya.
dancing_durian [OP]1 points3y ago
Oh that’s cool to know. Thank you. I forgot who the comedian was but he had a joke that if you don’t want people asking about your job, just say you work in HR because nobody knows what that is and they don’t want to ask 😅😝
littleedge2 points3y ago
Generally people just hate us folks in HR :(
My employer has three new options like Starbucks, but they’re slightly different and don’t give an opportunity for you to have a preference. It’s the supervisor’s decision. The fourth option is “keep working.” As an essential person in HR, I must keep working. But I’d make more if I took unemployment :/
1) Furlough. Expected to return in 4 months (or earlier). You keep your benefits, but must pay your premiums still. 2) “Enhanced” Lay-off. 30 or 90 days salary paid out to you. You keep your benefits for a period of time but must pay your premiums. You’re essentially fired, with temp perks. 3) Early retirement. Our normal retirement policy, but slightly earlier. Essentially “you almost retiring? This COVID shit fucked up? You just wanna get out of here now? Let’s do it.”
So I sympathize with you folks, but know that other businesses are going through the same thing. We’ll make it through this!
Or all die to fire zombies or something. Who knows what June has in store.
if4themew091 points3y ago
My manager hasnt told us anything yet, what is going on?
dancing_durian [OP]2 points3y ago
This is an effort to furlough a bunch of partners bc it’s not possible to keep all of us with the hours that will be available. Some stores might just be fine though.
ashtroidcat1 points3y ago
I only work twice a week and am wondering if I want to choose option 1, would it be honored?
Someone said they can't force us to take option 3, but can they force us to take option 2?
BigTexSM2 points3y ago
None of the options are guaranteed. They are strictly YOUR preference. Obviously Starbucks will try to accomodate, but it depends on your store´s current business needs. It also depends on a Tool that we have that tells us how many partners we´re allowed to keep with our current business climate.
ashtroidcat1 points3y ago
Does that mean we could be forced to take option 3? I'm sorry if this is repetitive.
BigTexSM3 points3y ago
Worst case scenario... yes. It´s very important that your SM knows your true availability and potential willingness to transfer. All the SMs in your District will meet with your DM next week and share info. Each store is allowed a certain amount of partners... any **extra** partners will need to either transfer to a short-staffed store, take the LOA, or take the Severance Package. It really depends on how your District is currently staffed. Not everyone can go on LOA. Not everyone can continue working. Not everyone can take the severance payout. The District must be balanced out. Good luck- hopefully you get your preference.
dancing_durian [OP]2 points3y ago
this is helpful to know. Thank you for sharing.
teet_teet-12 points3y ago
All because the company blew their load and hastily offered to pay for practically everyone to stay home for a solid month.
dancing_durian [OP]13 points3y ago
‘I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I’m afraid i have something of a mess on my hands.’
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