Every morning I come in and literally nothing is done. They don’t leave the case or teas prepped, the milk fridges are done wrong, we have no preps which means no white mocha, chai, frap roast, or mocha. This means the ones on the bar are usually close to empty so immediately we have a boatload of dishes to do. Normally if it’s a bad close I’m used to at the very least having cups and lids but now they don’t even do that. The only prep they leave is what I made in the morning. Btw this is our manager’s close😂it’s hard to understand how we get more done when we make 4K in the morning and 2k at night.
dancing_durian15 points3y ago
Maybe I’m biased because I’m a closer and yes, I agree, if I walk into all that, I’ll be pissed no matter what time of day. Does it help (not excuse) at all by saying that they had Happy Hour yesterday?
maddyevans [OP]1 points3y ago
It would if this wasn’t every morning lol
dancing_durian2 points3y ago
Alright they have no excuse then! 😅 as a closer, I don’t claim those people. 😝
colonade179 points3y ago
Most managers are not closers, and they spend most of the time on admin instead of actually working.
I did a 2-person close with my SM once, and he sat in the back 6 out of 8 hours of the shift on the computer while I was struggling to keep up.
mykotman12-1 points3y ago
Admin IS working. It’s a different kind of work, but it is still considered working. But yeah, some SMs don’t know how to properly close.
colonade175 points3y ago
Admin is work, but planning on when to do admin vs. on the floor coverage is important. If a SM is part of a 2 person play, that's a bad time for admin.
mykotman123 points3y ago
Yeah of course. If your SM if scheduled on the floor then they need to be on the floor. If some admin stuff comes up and they need to attend to it while being on the floor they need to find another person to cover them.
maddyevans [OP]1 points3y ago
She does admin at noon but came in to actually work happy hour and close
lizeken6 points3y ago
I’m the regular closer and it physically pains me if I can’t even do the bare minimum. From 4-8pm we run on 3 people (2 partners and an SSV), so if it gets super busy then yeah it’s hard to get everything done. If poor time management is your closers’ issue then the least they can do is stock ice and lids/cups. If I don’t have time to prep stuff I always make sure to bring out what they’ll need in the morning and put it on the counter where they can easily make it. It’s not ideal but it’s the only thing I can do for the morning people when the evening gets so shitty
coffeecat79185 points3y ago
You get more staff in the morning that the night crew does, usually. I think you should close and see what it’s really like, especially during a happy hour, before jumping to the conclusion that they didn’t even try.
maddyevans [OP]1 points3y ago
For our store it’s the same amount since we’re a drive through they can’t slack on people.
jaredperez025 points3y ago
As a barista who opens and closes (I know right? Rare that someone does both), if it isn’t a good close, it won’t be a good morning. However, if it’s a great close, it’ll be a very very easy opening. Honestly, closers ran so that openers could walk. I can understand that some nights it gets absolutely hectic and the close isn’t as good as it could be because of that, but I get where you’re coming from.
420TinyandMighty5 points3y ago
It deffo sucks when restock/backups didnt get done but having a happy hour yesterday made it astronomically hard to get anything done. My store would’ve had a shit close except we had clean play last night which meant we were able to get everything done ONLY because we were working until midnight.
ByGnomeMeans24 points3y ago
It was happy hour.
burlyhall4 points3y ago
We all know happy hour was yesterday. OP is talking about a PATTERN of closers in his/her store failing to set up the morning for success. It's a valid problem that your manager should be addressing.
maddyevans [OP]2 points3y ago
I tried addressing it with my manager and her excuse was that the shift (that she shouldn’t have promoted) is still learning like...he was trained before quarantine, you can’t even contact him because he doesn’t have a phone, he’s usually two hours late, and one time I had to go find him in his car after his half lasted an hour because he fell asleep. That’s not training that’s a pattern of lack of caring.
extra-hot-bean-water3 points3y ago
As a closer who opened for the first year of my Starbucks career let me say this. Teas should not be prepped the night before, you have thirty minutes to wash all the tea pitchers and air dry them, if a tea is put into a tea pitcher with even a few droplets of water and gets wet it’s a health cod violation to let it sit over night like that (I was a shift at Teavana so this one was really important for us). I don’t know how it if for your store but switching out containers for sauces needs to be done every 24 hours regardless and is usually easier in the morning when you have an hour of almost dead silence till peak and not 30 minutes with only two-three people to close a whole store. The only thing a closer can really help you with prep wise is making mocha for you and making all your wips. I would suggest talking to your sm about having more of the 24 hour shelf life stuff being done during your mid if it’s that difficult for you and the closers.
maddyevans [OP]1 points3y ago
And we also don’t ever have dead silence in the morning because for us it immediately gets too busy to have time to have an extra person doing little things as soon as it hits 5.
maddyevans [OP]1 points3y ago
We have triples of every tea container so their is always a dry backup set.
extra-hot-bean-water1 points3y ago
Oh then yeah they could definitely prep at least one set for you guys. If your a shift I’d try and talk to your manager about your needs in the morning and what’s not working for you guys. Your morning numbers are what really make or breaks the day but maybe you guys aren’t appropriately staffed for morning and peak? If your a barista you could also try doing that, but you may have to rely more on your shiftleads to back you up and really drive it home. And if you really want to try and fix it, request like a week or two of closing shifts and show the other closers how to properly set you up in the morning.
maddyevans [OP]1 points3y ago
Our manager just switched one of our good morning shifts to night so hopefully that helps? It feels like I have to open and close the store basically every shift and I work 4:30-1:00. Were expected to clean the inside of all fridges, both bars, completely stock and prep everything, brew station, and drains. Just not possible on a five partner play with as busy as we are. I’m a barista but I have tried telling her but I also don’t want her to think I’m annoying lmao. She’s always never here and works from home.
extra-hot-bean-water2 points3y ago
My store is the busiest in our district and what works for us is doing fridges, drains and espresso bar right after peak, tea bar and ovens during mid and leaving frap bar, warming station and brewing station for the end of the night. Obviously dumping out the coffees for brew station after they’re no longer needed in the morning. That kind of structure leaves each day part responsible for specific tasks and holds them accountable for them. Don’t feel like you’re annoying either, this is her store and she needs it running smoothly, especially now that Starbucks is looking to cut out anything that isn’t working for them. Also I’d like to apologize if any of my earlier comments came off condescending, I honestly just want to help out other baristas any way I can with everything going on and maybe make things less stressful.
maddyevans [OP]1 points3y ago
That sounds like a really great system! I just hate that we have to clean everything and then they fuck it up at night and have zero idea how to maintain a bar after it’s cleaned since they don’t have to clean it ever. I definitely didn’t think you were condescending! Thanks for the help:)
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