TL;Dr Store manager says I can’t get a tall in a grande cup because “licensed stores don’t do that”
I used to be a Starbucks barista and never heard of this...
This morning I ordered my usual - tall iced coffee in a grande cup.
I usually go in the afternoon but went in the morning.
The barista said he has to check with his manager.
After spending literally five minutes with a look of complete confusion on her face as to why I would want a tall in a grande cup (she looked like she had zero experience taking orders even though she was the manager?) she said if I wanted it in a different size cup I would have to pay for that size
Since she looked so confused I told her I used to work at Starbucks and that it is in fact a thing, you can even order it on the app in a different cup size with no issues
She said they “don’t do that” at a licensed store...? I have been to so many licensed stores and have never had a problem
Is this a thing? I have drank Starbucks almost every day of my life since high school - licensed stores included.
For what it’s worth, this is the same Starbucks that last week the barista took off her mask and sneezed all over my cup when making my drink...almost every interaction with the people who work here has been negative, and I’ve only been to this one a handful of times.
ihateyousoymatcha13 points3y ago
She's got to be new and didn't understand you want extra room or extra ice or something. We do that all the time. ❤️
54688642246 [OP]5 points3y ago
I told her I wanted room for my milk. Then after going back and forth I told her to just pour the tall beverage into a grande cup. She wouldn’t do that either. She understood, she thought I was trying to cheat her.
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt but she understood perfectly I only wanted it in a bigger cup.
She said they can make their own rules in a licensed store...?! Is that true? I don’t see how that is even possible given that it is an option on the app to order a tall in a grande cup...
ihateyousoymatcha10 points3y ago
Oh yeah, licensed stores don't run the same way. Most of us don't consider them actual Starbucks as they are run and managed by the store they're in/attached to. They tend to have different policies.
The licensed stores in my area are notorious for getting drinks wrong and confusing people.
54688642246 [OP]3 points3y ago
The ones at this particular store have an absolutely horrid attitude, I know if they had that attitude at the Starbucks I used to work at someone would have had coffee thrown in their face.
ihateyousoymatcha4 points3y ago
The one nearest to my home store makes them write on cups, but they don't know any of the codes.
Licensed stores are definitely not the same environment.
asilva06223 points3y ago
The Tarbucks near me keeps releasing the drinks early. They were selling the Kiwi Starfruit 2 weeks before the original launch date.
dodofishman3 points3y ago
I just really don't understand because its not like the $3-4 you're paying is going straight into her pocket?? We get paid hourly lmao
54688642246 [OP]1 points3y ago
Exactly!
Mariiriini0 points3y ago
And you don't get paid hourly if you get fired for not following the rules at your job, even if you don't agree. Licensed stores are a lot worse for this.
596259624 points3y ago
Work and a tarbucks and that manager has no idea what she is doin
54688642246 [OP]1 points3y ago
Exactly
moon-brat3 points3y ago
As a licensed store manager this is absolutely allowed and have no idea where in the handbook does it say you cannot do that. We follow the same rules y’all do...kiss ass, get to yes, and make a damn connection LMFAO And honestly I do this all the time myself if customers ask for like a tall iced with coffee extra cream or something it’s not breaking the bank or hurting anyone to make a tall iced coffee and putting it in a grande cup... I don’t understand 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️😂
Alsooooo licensed stores cannot make up their own rules or at least shouldn’t be because we still have a district manager who works for Starbucks. He’s the one making sure we are up to standard, and being trained correctly so I don’t know how these other licensed stores are making their own rules. ESPECIALLY due to the hefty fine if they are caught in non compliance! (I work at a Starbucks inside a grocery store in NY)
54688642246 [OP]1 points3y ago
>As a licensed store manager this is absolutely allowed
>licensed stores cannot make up their own rules
Sorry, aren’t these contradictory? Maybe I didn’t understand your first comment.
And thank you for your reply, it makes me feel a lot better!
moon-brat1 points3y ago
Yeah I was saying there is no written rule saying you cannot put a smaller sized drink in a larger cup. Then as I was reading others comments I just had to add that licensed stores cannot make up their own rules and that we do follow the same rules as corporate SOO if these other stores are making up their own rules the store with the license can get into a lot of trouble!
54688642246 [OP]1 points3y ago
Thanks for clarifying! I should also add that this Starbucks licensed store is on an Army base. I am not Army (my spouse is) but I find that a lot of people in the army are by training “do as you’re told” and if they are told to jump they ask how high sort of thing. A lot of military bases we have lived on have stores where the staff will either be nasty to the customers knowing they won’t complain, or some will even take advantage of them, which is why they have laws about predatory car salespeople and loan companies on military bases. I take it this Starbucks store is just a product of that kind of dynamic of not paying attention to customer service, because most of the customers are soldiers who would never complain.
mayaagu3 points3y ago
I get this all the time, it has never been an issue. I have a regular who always orders a grande pike in a venti cup and asks for extra cream with the left over room. It’s odd that she would argue with you though considering she’s a manager and is supposed to make the moment right for the customer and assume positive intent.
54688642246 [OP]3 points3y ago
Yeah, this Starbucks location really shocks me. Last time I was there, the girl sneezed all over my drink after taking her mask off, and rolled her eyes at me when I politely asked if she could wash her hands while continuing to make my drink.
And at this same location, I once asked just for a cup of ice in a tall cup and they wanted to charge me $1.00...I just walked to Wendy’s and got it for free...
And what’s even more shocking is that there was a long line behind me and I know when I used to work at Starbucks we used to just give customers what they wanted (for example, the customer that didn’t want to be charged a few cents more for a certain type of milk since she was a daily customer and it was only a few cents)
It is all kind of the opposite of the whole Starbucks mantra to “make the moment right”
sarajasim1 points3y ago
A dollar for some ice?? There’s no way they can even ring that up. Bet they were gonna pocket it themselves.
54688642246 [OP]1 points3y ago
Yeah, shockingly it rang up on the register. I’m telling you, this location is **absolute trash.** they charge for absolutely everything and make up their own rules.
colonade172 points3y ago
Licensed stores get to make some variations to pricing and policy, but never heard of this one before. I've seen licensed stores that add small extra charge for doing a tall in a grande cup, but never one that refused to do it.
carmela891 points3y ago
i worked at a licensed store and the rules were all the same except stars couldn’t be redeemed
Mariiriini-1 points3y ago
1. Licensed stores have fucking awful inventory systems. It's likely 100% true that they can't accurately track inventory while serving these up sized drinks.
2. It's actually kind of a corporate thing too. There was an action about it a few months ago. Putting drinks into a larger cup isn't encouraged, it's a MTMR and don't do it again. You're paying for a tall but receiving a grande amount of ingredients, unless you have your own personal milk you're putting in to it. It's been an issue with people making lattes with condiment bar cream or making venti coffees with extra cream. Licensed stores have stricter inventory allowances generally, it's not free or cheap to license Starbucks name.
3. The sneezing thing is separate, contact the license owner.
54688642246 [OP]2 points3y ago
I totally understand #2, but especially with drinks liked iced mochas, you are putting in an amount of ingredients specific to that cup size. So for example, only 1 pump of sauce and 1 shot of espresso for a tall regardless of what cup size it’s in.
This is also something I was trying to explain to the manager - the recipes are specific to the size, down to the scoop of ice, so it wouldn’t even matter what size cup I was getting it in if I was getting a Frappuccino or an iced mocha.
I get that she thought I was cheating the system but that’s why I literally just asked her to make it in a tall cup - milk and all - and just pour it into the grande cup. Still wouldn’t budge.
Mariiriini0 points3y ago
But it's about the milk and ice too. And the cup is still wasted if it's used to measure and then poured into another cup. Either you getting more product or you're wasting a cup to get extra room.
And you said you wanted extra room for milk, not that you wanted the extra room from the cup upsize after the milk was already put in. Either you wanted extra product or you didn't, but your first comment about why you wanted room was pretty clear, you wanted to add milk... That's a grande amount of product when you wanted to pay for a tall amount. 3 customers that do it will lose the licensed stand 1 talls worth of product.
Regardless, licensed stores are often more strict. Inventory doesn't stop at ingredients, cups are tracked inventory too.
mykotman122 points3y ago
If a customer wants their drink in a bigger cup, we can do that. That’s why you can do it via mobile order as well. If it wasn’t allowed, customers would’ve be able to do it via mobile.
The policy states that customer gets what they pay for. If a customer wants 12oz drink, but be put in a 16oz cup, we can do that as long as we give them 12oz of a drink.
Customer might want extra room. Or maybe they want extra whip. We can track that by using “extra whip” button. If they want extra milk in their iced coffee, we can track that as well by using “extra milk/cream” button. We are allowed to give customer 4oz of milk for free. If they want even more than that (to fill up grande cup) we can charge them for extra by suing “breve” button instead of “with cream” button. So they still are getting 12oz iced coffee with extra cream added to fill the 16oz cup and they are paying for it.
Mariiriini-2 points3y ago
There was an action item about it, and that's not what the action item said. It was pretty clear, the only upsize allowed is very specifically if they want room. Not if they want a venti tea as a tall but filled to the top, not if they want extra water in an Americano, not if they want extra whip cream. They get the product that fits in the size drink they paid for, and any upsized cup is filled the rest of the way with air. Or ice.
Extra whip is for people that want to reduce their liquid beverage to get extra whip. Extra cream is because 4oz is the max, not the normal amount of cream. 2oz is the "standard" creamer amount.
Mtmr and all that, but corporate pretty clearly identified what an upsize is for. It's for room.
54688642246 [OP]0 points3y ago
>cups are tracked inventory too
We used to give customers double cupped beverages all the time if they didn’t want their cups to get their hands too cold or hot, cups drop all the time on the floor...cups were not exactly things we would nickel and dime with customers.
>And you said you wanted extra room for milk
Well, what I wrote here isn’t word for word what my conversation was. She knew what I meant. They don’t even have a bar with milk canisters at that location so you can’t add your own milk.
>And the cup is still wasted if it’s used to measure and then pour into another cup
Not for an iced coffee, when I was a barista we had scoops to scoop out the ice and they were already pre-sized.
I’m sorry, Starbucks is a multi-billion dollar company and their cups cost maybe less than half of a cent each. As I’ve mentioned I used to be a barista, it was definitely not a company that nickel and dimed every tiny little customer transaction...even if they wanted a lot of milk in their drink...doesn’t really matter to me, Starbucks isn’t going broke tomorrow because of one customer, and one of the things I really liked about working there is that they weren’t petty like that.
Seriously, anyone who feels “bad” for Starbucks if they have to give up an extra cup for a customer that literally costs the company $0.0001 is crazy. I don’t feel bad for corporations and I certainly don’t feel bad for Starbucks. They have plenty of money.
And by the way, besides for that, the main reason I would put it in another cup for a customer with no problem is because I don’t want the HEADACHE of having a 30 minute long conversation about why I can’t put it in another cup...takes faster to just give them the damn cup. And I know my manager would have been supportive of that, it just isn’t worth the hassle.
Mariiriini1 points3y ago
Did you work at a licensed store that had inventory management strictness? Did you work at a licensed store that charged for water?
I'm not saying I care. I'm saying policy is what it is. People finagle larger drinks for smaller prices and it does start cutting into profit. Especially when COSDs are way down from last year for the vast majority of stores.
You were pretty clear with what you said. I'm not sure how "I want room to add my own milk" equals "Only give me a tall amount of product, and leave extra room for the milk I want to add, so I only have 12oz of product in my 16oz cup". You wanted a tall iced coffee, put into a grande, so there'd be room to put in milk.
I think you've been out a little too long. Iced coffee is measured by pouring to the third black line. That's the accurate way to do it. They'd waste the cup to measure it accurately.
mykotman121 points3y ago
Don’t listen to that user. You are allowed to get 12oz drink in a 16oz cup. Starbucks does not prohibit it and licensed stores cannot make their own rules when it comes to that. If it wasn’t allowed, customers wouldn’t be able to do it via mobile. You can check my response to that user above for clear policy and how to track inventory and such.
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