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Question about the 3rd warning. (self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by thelonelycheesestick
So, I'll get the question out then explain circumstances.
What "privileges" are actually recinded with the final written warning and what do they entail?
Am I allowed to pick up shifts at other stores still? I have to pay my bills somehow, and Im not getting a lot of hours.
The reason for the final written warning: time and attendance.
The first one was about me being 1-3 minutes late on two occasions where I am there and present but washing my hands and putting my apron on, and then on one occasion "time theft" since I put my apron on after I clocked in so I clocked in 1 minute before I should have.
The second one I feel frustrated on. With covid it seemed like the schedules where changing every three days. I would get confirmation that a schedule was final, only to look at it the next day and have it be changed. One of the times this happened resulted in me no call no showing for half of my shift due to her scheduling me after she stated the schedule was final and it was originally my day off. This schedule being final was a verbal affirmation, I dont know why I believed it. But end all be all, I came in 1 hr 30 min late.
I also got scolded for having a bad attitude on the floor, with no mention from *any* of my fellow baristas saying anything to me about it. Then I found out her boss saw me interact with a barista and told her, and it got put on the form as well. I tend to veiw myself as a very blunt, but generally very kind person. Ive had some family pass away however, and so I thought 'who knows maybe I really am having a poor attitude I'll fix it'
The third time was on me. I found out yet another family member that was close was going into comfort care and I cried all night, slept through my alarms. That family member died shortly after my shift ended that day.
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That all being said, I need to know if I can pick up shifts and what exactly is taken away from me with a final written warning. I have to pay bills, and my store has thin hours as is. I feel very frustrated at the first two incidents.
What "privileges" are actually recinded with the final written warning and what do they entail?
Am I allowed to pick up shifts at other stores still? I have to pay my bills somehow, and Im not getting a lot of hours.
The reason for the final written warning: time and attendance.
The first one was about me being 1-3 minutes late on two occasions where I am there and present but washing my hands and putting my apron on, and then on one occasion "time theft" since I put my apron on after I clocked in so I clocked in 1 minute before I should have.
The second one I feel frustrated on. With covid it seemed like the schedules where changing every three days. I would get confirmation that a schedule was final, only to look at it the next day and have it be changed. One of the times this happened resulted in me no call no showing for half of my shift due to her scheduling me after she stated the schedule was final and it was originally my day off. This schedule being final was a verbal affirmation, I dont know why I believed it. But end all be all, I came in 1 hr 30 min late.
I also got scolded for having a bad attitude on the floor, with no mention from *any* of my fellow baristas saying anything to me about it. Then I found out her boss saw me interact with a barista and told her, and it got put on the form as well. I tend to veiw myself as a very blunt, but generally very kind person. Ive had some family pass away however, and so I thought 'who knows maybe I really am having a poor attitude I'll fix it'
The third time was on me. I found out yet another family member that was close was going into comfort care and I cried all night, slept through my alarms. That family member died shortly after my shift ended that day.
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That all being said, I need to know if I can pick up shifts and what exactly is taken away from me with a final written warning. I have to pay bills, and my store has thin hours as is. I feel very frustrated at the first two incidents.
mykotman12 7 points 3y ago
Nothing is taken away from you with the final. Just make sure not give them a reason to fire you. You can still pick up shifts.
What helps me is thinking that my shift starts 15-30 min before it actually starts. So I’m if scheduled at 7am, in my mind I will make it 630am. Do I get to work too early? Sure, but that way I’m not late and have plenty of time to get my coffee and mentally prepare myself for the day.
Good luck! I hope everything works out for you. :)
What helps me is thinking that my shift starts 15-30 min before it actually starts. So I’m if scheduled at 7am, in my mind I will make it 630am. Do I get to work too early? Sure, but that way I’m not late and have plenty of time to get my coffee and mentally prepare myself for the day.
Good luck! I hope everything works out for you. :)
thelonelycheesestick [OP] 4 points 3y ago
I was explicitly told that priveleges were taken.
Like if you got partner of the quarter, you wouldnt recieve the bonus. My store managers words, exactly.
And also, you cant transfer to another store.
She said there was more but didnt go into detail.
Edit: thank you for the advice. I plan to do that.
Like if you got partner of the quarter, you wouldnt recieve the bonus. My store managers words, exactly.
And also, you cant transfer to another store.
She said there was more but didnt go into detail.
Edit: thank you for the advice. I plan to do that.
mykotman12 8 points 3y ago
If you got POQ, you will get the bonus. Your SM can’t take that away. It’s automatic. System does it on its own once SM enters the winner of POQ. And if they do, file a complaint. What might happen is that your SM will just pick somebody else for it.
Transfer: technically yes, you can’t transfer if you have corrective actions in your file for 6 months, BUT people still do transfer if it’s due to moving or family stuff. For example, you move and your store is now 30 min away and there is another store closer and you need to transfer due to transportation issues.
Your SM might deny your shift swap or you taking a shift at your store. But if you pick up shifts at other stores, your SM can’t deny that. That would be up to the SM at the other store.
Transfer: technically yes, you can’t transfer if you have corrective actions in your file for 6 months, BUT people still do transfer if it’s due to moving or family stuff. For example, you move and your store is now 30 min away and there is another store closer and you need to transfer due to transportation issues.
Your SM might deny your shift swap or you taking a shift at your store. But if you pick up shifts at other stores, your SM can’t deny that. That would be up to the SM at the other store.
thelonelycheesestick [OP] 2 points 3y ago
Thank you so much, that makes me feel very relieved.
mykotman12 4 points 3y ago
Anytime! I used to be SM for 5 years before leaving to go travel and now I’m SSV. If you need any other help or have questions, don’t hesitate to ask.
I will talk to my current SM (who has been SM for 15 years at Starbucks) and will ask him as well about your issue. Maybe he will have some good advice for you.
Good luck! Just remember, don’t be late and don’t give your SM a reason to fire you. Maybe even transferring would be a good option for you. Have a fresh start. (Your SM might make it hard though).
I will talk to my current SM (who has been SM for 15 years at Starbucks) and will ask him as well about your issue. Maybe he will have some good advice for you.
Good luck! Just remember, don’t be late and don’t give your SM a reason to fire you. Maybe even transferring would be a good option for you. Have a fresh start. (Your SM might make it hard though).
snidejenner 4 points 3y ago
Wow your store sounds like trash. Time theft for putting your apron on after you've clocked in? They are stealing from you asking you to do work things not clocked into work. Putting on an apron and washing your hands can be done on the clock
thelonelycheesestick [OP] 1 points 3y ago
I thought the same thing too, but what exactly am I supposed to say?
"Hand washing and everything should be done before you clock on. When you clock on you should be on the floor and ready to work."
"Hand washing and everything should be done before you clock on. When you clock on you should be on the floor and ready to work."
tang0foxtr0t 3 points 3y ago
Honestly I would consider reporting that to PCC because that doesn't seem right. Putting on an apron and washing your hands (especially when it's REQUIRED before you can start touching anything else) are part of the beginning of your shift, on the clock. And you didn't steal time, you were washing your hands for 20 seconds. The company has paid you .075 cents in that 20 seconds, they have not lost any form of profit on that. I think your SM needs a talking to.
snidejenner 2 points 3y ago
I get being ready for work but yeah idk. At my store you could clock on 5 mins before or after and wouldnt be punished, obviously just dont make clocking in late a habit
official_koda_ 3 points 3y ago
What the hell? I wouldn’t want to work at your store, clearly your manager is nuts. You shouldn’t even put on your apron before clocking it, it should be done on the clock. Wearing the apron is a requirement of the job, therefore get paid for it.
thelonelycheesestick [OP] 1 points 3y ago
I know shes set up for a demotion soon (at least theres whispers about it). Shes had a terrible turnover rate and consistent issues with communication.
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