Aeration times for wet to like, extra dry on a cappuccino? How much foam for these? Also, what's an undertow exactly?(self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by hecaete47
So pretty much, the store I started at and was trained at was very much not espresso-centered. The customer base was 90% cold bar drinks. That said, I was trained VERY briefly on the different hot drinks and, in practice, only ever made lattes. Literally, in the 3 months that I was at this store, not a SINGLE person ordered a cappuccino while I was either taking orders or on bar. I came to Starbucks as someone who likes coffee, so I was vaguely aware of what a customer wanted when ONE person ordered an espresso macchiato and the person on bar was like "????" @ me of what that even is, same for the one person to ever order an espresso con panna while I was on DTO.
I'm now at a store where that's flipped: fewer people order things like teas or refreshers, and espresso drinks take the center stage. I've had an undertow exactly once that a coworker made for all of us to take together. Before this store, I hadn't even known what red eye or black eye meant.
So my questions are those in the title: Does anyone have a chart or something for cappuccinos? I'm just making my best guess when I steam the 6-8 seconds and assume it'll be a good enough cappuccino, steam for around 10-11 seconds for extra dry because I think that's like, no milk or very little?
And how do I prepare an undertow? What about ringing it up if a customer orders it?
Thx folks <3
USplendid4 points2y ago
Commonly, an undertow is rung up as a doppio espresso with 2 pumps of syrup and a splash of cream. The shots are pulled over an upside down spoon. So that the espresso lays on top of the cream. Creating layers.
You drink it all in one go and there are many variations on the recipe.
hecaete47 [OP]1 points2y ago
Thank you!
snowpeech4 points2y ago
Steaming 6-8 seconds is what Starbucks training material says. A shift helped me make better capps by aerating until the milk is 85-100 F. For wet, I'll aerate to 80ish, extra dry, I'll just keep going to 110/115F. I use a little more than half the amount of milk for the pitcher line (i.e. milk between T&G line for a Venti cappuccino) because a cappuccino is half foam... Unless it's an alternate milk that doesn't steam/aerate very well. Hope that helps!
I can't help much for undertows
dodofishman2 points2y ago
For a cappuccino I fill milk (cold milk!) to the line below the size cup, (like do tall for a grande cap), and aerate to around 100F. Then you free pour by pouring through the side of the pitcher. You can't really let the milk sit too long or it'll separate.
An undertow is simple, it just takes some care. Usually its 2 shots, vanilla and half and half. People sometimes customize the syrup, milk, and # of shots, but that's the usual build. Put the vanilla and half and half in a short cup as your shots pull, should be like 2/5ths full. Grab the metal bar spoon and place it upside down over the cup, and gently pour the espresso shots over the spoon. This helps layer the espresso on top. An undertow is meant to be a layered drink, with the hot espresso juxtaposed with the cold sweet cream.
mr-potatohead_1 points2y ago
Personally, for a cap I steam a short amount of milk until it hits the grande or venti line in the pitcher. If it is a venti cap I use two pitchers. I will pour the foam until the cup is about half full and scoop the rest to make a nice top. I dont know what standard is but this is personally how I like mine and customers seem satisfied. If it is extra dry I will just scoop the foam to fill the cup. Sometimes that take 2 pitchers worth of foam, sometimes not.
For an undertow I always ask how many shots they want and their milk preference. It's not a standard drink anymore so there isn't a "correct" way to do it. But it is about an inch or less of milk at the bottom of a short cup and then you pull the desired amount of shots over the top of the bar spoon so that they lay on top of the milk. Sometimes people will want a pump or 2 of syrup in the milk so I ask if they want it sweetened or not. When in doubt I always ask the customer so they get exactly what they are expecting.
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