I’m an ADHD and Autistic Green Bean and Could Use Some Advice(self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by telgoh
//Posted this on r/starbucks as well
So today was my first ever Saturday shift. Things started out okay, and despite being told it was going to get crazy busy, I underestimated just how busy that would be. I was flex, mainly doing Front and Warming, but I’d have to make drinks here and there, and also clean, and brew coffee. Everyone kept asking me to help them with things, so I was pulled in different directions and given a lot of tasks to do all at once. Then things started getting crowded and noisy and there were a lot of smells. I got overstimulated and experienced major sensory overload. I did everything I could to keep my head in the game, but I think my Shift realized something was up. At one point while making a brewed coffee, I dropped a carton of cream on the floor, spilling it all over and making it splash all over my clothes. Normally I would brush it off and know to go grab the mop and clean it up, but the sensory overload was too much, and my brain shut down. I froze and stared at the spill and started knocking my knuckles together. My Shift led me to the back room and told me to take a breather. My breather lasted about 3 minutes before I went back out, because I wanted to still seem capable and dependable despite my disabilities. But it was still really hard.
I was wondering if any other Partners, ADHD/Autistic or not, had any advice on how to remain headstrong and calm during crazy peaks and rushes. I’m usually great at handling them, but I guess Saturdays are different. I’d love any advice you can give. Thank you!!
rosegoldhiips13 points2y ago
i have adhd and currently unable to get my meds so ive just been caffeinating myself with teas and refreshers and lately anything my shifts or fellow partners ask me to do, i take a piece of receipt paper and write it down. it helps me remain on task in the absence of adderall. if you're not able to do the miscellaneous tasks that you're asked to do because you had customers to help, DO NOT sweat it: a good shift will recognize and understand that. bottom line is that the customers come first and you should never be reprimanded for helping them. if you are, that shift or other barista needs a talking to.
hecaete477 points2y ago
\#tfw u can't get meds rn so u just down a venti blonde doubleshot on ice & hope it stimulates ur brain enough :') right there with u
rosegoldhiips2 points2y ago
double shots are a favorite go-to of mine, too, yep! when i order a double shot before my shift, my fellow partners know im not feeling even a quarter of alertness and do what they can to help me perform my best once i do clock in.
telgoh [OP]6 points2y ago
Thank you so so much!! I’ve been making sure to stay caffeinated during my shifts because it always helps me focus. But I never thought to write down the tasks on paper. I’ll definitely give that a go!! That’s also super helpful to know that me going to the customers whenever they showed up was the right thing to be doing. I was worried I was messing up priorities. Thank you so much!!
rosegoldhiips2 points2y ago
yeah no problem! writing it down helps a ton when you have several ppl asking you to complete tasks and it also shows your coworkers that you're listening to them and that you really are trying to help. the other day i had 7 or 8 tasks written down and they ranged from cleaning the sinks to emptying the cold brew toddys and a bunch of other tasks that would have me running to every single end of the store.
littlelaw1215 points2y ago
Yep, Saturdays are a different beast. I just got home from a real doozy. I'm sorry you had such a frustrating shift. I think it's worth saying that despite their relative more experience, and despite their presumed neuro-typicality, all of your co-workers were also running on overload, frustrated, and overwhelmed. They just express it differently.
If you haven't told your store leaders about your neurological conditions, I hope that you feel comfortable doing that. Everybody at my store would do what they can to adapt to your needs as they're able, but only if they know about them. I know not every store has good people in management roles, but the person in charge today sounds like she has a pretty good sense of what her team needs and would be receptive to a conversation about how autism and ADHD will affect you in different roles.
I've worked at Starbucks for over 8 years, and held every level position in the store. The job you were given today is the one that I usually assign to myself because it requires expert level decision making about what to prioritize at every moment to keep everything moving. I would NOT give it to a new partner--on a Saturday, no less. Actually, the jobs you listed were assigned to three separate people at my store today (front, warmer, support) because they would be too much for any person to do no matter who they are. Sometimes when I'm in that role and someone asks for something else from me, I just holler back, "I'll add it to my list, but if you can get to it before I do, that'd be swell!" I'm just communicating realistic information about where that request falls on my list of priorities in that moment. Sometimes it's the best I can offer.
So in sum, it sounds like you were operating way above your expected level as a new barista. I encourage you to reflect on your day. What level of activity and multitasking felt comfortable? What felt challenging but in a good way? When did you start to feel like you were losing control? Do they have any specific advice for what you were doing then? Did you identify any questions that you need clarification on and can ask tomorrow about specific tasks? If you get to talk to your management team, I would suggest setting up some things you can say to alert them that you need to change what you're doing before you reach a point like you did today. Then, if you ever say "I'm out!" or "Switch!", or whatever, they know to take it seriously, why, and perhaps have an idea of what sort of change you probably need. Hopefully there is an option to go wash dishes, or clean the bathrooms, or take a 10 a bit earlier than planned. But maybe there's just another role on the floor that would suit you in those moments. One of my best baristas has ADHD and diagnosed anxiety. It means that if I assign her to only the window, where she will stand and wait until things are handed to her, she will GO BONKERS--fidgetty, uncomfortable, and more stressed out by the moment. But it also means that she can do window and DTO by herself long after anyone else would need help from a second person. She thrives on the multitasking. Her ADHD is very obviously an asset in that role, and where most of us feel more stressed, she feels relief and mastery. You may need more time to develop your skills overall yet, but it's entirely possible that you'll find a similar situation for yourself that can be your release valve while still being totally present on the floor.
Anyway, that got really long. It sounds like you're doing great, and it's just time to explore with yourself and your team what options are available to meet your unique needs. I can't even count the number of baristas that I have told to go take a quiet moment in back because we demanded too much for too long. That part is definitely not unique to you.
telgoh [OP]1 points2y ago
Thank you so much!! This all helps me a lot.
I usually really like being given things to do, because then I can stay stimulated and active. It’s what always made the job fun! I get overwhelmed sometimes, like when a bunch of food that needs to be warmed suddenly has to be done. But it was a challenge I liked, and I was able to learn to prioritize DT, then Cafe, then mobile, then delivery. It’s still overwhelming when a lot suddenly needs to be done, but I’m usually able to work through it.
I really underestimated how busy Saturdays are. I am hoping that I get better at them with practice, just like how I hope I get better and faster at bar.
I think it’s cool that you have a barista with ADHD and Anxiety!! I have diagnosed Anxiety too, so we are really close to the same and it makes me feel like I can do a good job if other people like me are able to.
I will definitely reflect today! I will write it down in my journal and learn from it.
Is it okay if I ask you another question? I met my manager in person for the first time yesterday, and she kept correcting me on things I hadn’t been taught. I am worried that I will be seen as a bad employee, and will be fired for making too many mistakes, or for not being perfect and fast enough at bar yet. Are these reasonable worries? Can I really get fired for that? This is basically my first job so I do not know how that stuff works. Thank you for your help!
Thank you for telling me I am doing great. That gives me a lot of confidence, and it’s good to know I am not alone, and that everyone is stressed and just shows it differently. Thank you for all your advice!! I really appreciate it, and appreciate you too!
littlelaw1212 points2y ago
Oh, don't worry at all! You will absolutely not be fired for making too many mistakes while you're brand new. You'd have to get to the point that the "mistakes" are very obviously willful indifference to the standards rather than lack of training. The training time we have for new baristas is nowhere near enough to cover all the details. Your manager knows what's on the training program and what isn't. Zillions of things aren't. I'm sure that many baristas have taken my quick corrections in the moment to be signs of annoyance or even dislike. I try to set aside a moment before they leave to let them know that that impression is understandable but wrong, I just don't have time to convey emotions in the moment, only information, and tell them something I thought they did well that day.
After you work with your manager a few more times, see if you can do just a quick informal check in. Tell him/her how you're feeling, what you're worried about and what you're proud of. See how they respond. If you can develop a rapport and understanding, it may present an opportunity to see if you're comfortable talking to them about your neuro-atypicality. More communication is better communication, generally, so your manager has the pertinent information to help you be successful. In my experience, very few baristas fail because of lack of ability; far more fail because of lack of interest and motivation.
telgoh [OP]1 points2y ago
Thank you so much for the reassurance. You sound like an amazing manager, and person to work with in general. I feel like you understand people like me, and that’s really nice.
A symptom of my ADHD is Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria, and it was triggered a lot by all the corrections from my manager. So to know that it’s not something I need to worry about, and that it’s normal and not just me is going to help a lot. Thank you very much.
I’m really wanting to keep this job to help me get through schooling in the future. So to know that mistakes won’t cause me to lose the job is a huge relief.
If I ever have a leadership role, I will definitely cope your example, and let people know that I’m not annoyed and don’t dislike them, and praise them for something they did well. I think that’s a really good thing to do.
Thank you again so much!
littlelaw1212 points2y ago
You're super welcome. It sounds like you are going to be wonderful at your job very soon. I think Starbucks should actively recruit people with ADHD, quite honestly. Hyperactive multitasking is basically our jam all day every day.
One more bit of advice before I go, if I may. If you need to call in for your mental health, just say you're calling in sick. The idea of a "mental health day" makes a lot of people, managers included, think you're just tired or stressed, and they think, "hey, I'm tired and stressed too, we all are!" and they don't respond appropriately to it. They don't need to know whether it's mental or physical (except let them know it's not covid, I guess). If you're not well enough to work, it doesn't really matter why. You need to call out sick, and that's that.
jawhurty2 points2y ago
I have ADHD and I definitely benefit from lists. Also making sure all of my coworkers know that I’m not exactly like them so I might operate a little bit differently, and trusting that they won’t judge me for that. When I get overwhelmed I’ll typically try to either take a breather in the back, run to the bathroom (even if I don’t have to go, just to get away from everything for a few minutes), or ask to be on a position I know I can rock at that time. Typically, I can really exceed in DTO or DTO/DTR, so that’s where I ask to go when I’m having a worse day than normal. I think the biggest thing is just communicating with your partners, they can and will help you out with things you need, even if that’s just being able to step outside for a minute to get a break from the stimulation.
I also like to set up timelines/processes in my head if I’m any position except bar? So like if I’m window I have a process. Greet, payment, handout, thank you. If I’m on dto I have a process. Greet, take order, upsell, thank you. Or if I’m customer support, I’ll give myself five or so minutes to stock all the cups and lids and milks, and 10 minutes to run and put away a load of dishes. Just stuff like that. It helps make it less scary a little bit?
telgoh [OP]2 points2y ago
This is all really helpful!! I’ll be sure to use all your advice. Thank you so so much.
kandiwarriorprincess1 points2y ago
I have ADHD (not autism though), and I too experience sensory overload—mostly with sounds. One thing I do is turn my headset way down or take it off my ear for a few minutes. Sometimes I go to the back and do dishes if we have enough people on the floor that I can do that. Otherwise, if I can’t handle it, I ask my shifts if I can take my 10 or sit down a minute. My shifts are all wonderful and willing to work with me when that happens, which I appreciate!
Someone also mentioned staying caffeinated. If you aren’t on meds and don’t have something like a heart thing or anxiety, a little caffeine can help too! Also, drinking enough water is important too! Best of luck and hang in there, you got this! 💜
jayessdubs1 points2y ago
ADHD Autistic homie here! I've worked at the job for 2 years (almost left, but then COVID :( ), and sensory overload is still the worst part of it for me. My advice is to learn what shifts / baristas will help you out if you're struggling, and if you know that theres a certain day and time that's a horrible peak, mark that specific chunk of time out of your availability until you feel like you can work through it. Be patient with yourself. Give yourself a couple of assured days off every month if you can. And figure out if your store is right for you once you get acclimated.
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My first store was a drive thru store, and in the beginning, I could barely go 15 or 30 minutes without starting to hyperventilate, panic attacks weren't uncommon. The headset hurt my ears because of the different volume. The oven going off next to my ear once put me in a mental haze for the rest of the day. I ended up transferring to a cafe store that has its own problems, but a lot of my coworkers have their own mental health issues (whatever they may be), and except for the SM, are willing to work with me if I say "I need to be on bar and not talk to anyone right now" "I'd like to focus on one thing at a time, can I just stay on reg and do warming?" "are you okay if I stay on CS and just follow the timer?"
If it's not an overly high traffic store, CS is a godsend on those days because the routine is scripted and written out and as long as you remember what to check up on, people will tell you point blank what they need from you. :)
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Feel free to chat if you have any questions, I can't think of many suggestions off the top of my head other than find the patterns in things (if you have the brain that works like that), learn your sensory triggers (sound is a massive issue of mine, so I take note of when the oven's about to go off, and I don't keep my head near it, I keep the brewing timer on my apron pocket instead of my apron strap), and learn your allies.
jayessdubs1 points2y ago
also! I got a doctor's note saying I needed breaks every 2 hours, and while I usually say no to it during the 4.5 hour shifts, I can use that if I'm feeling overwhelmed. Noise canceling headphones + music on my break is a solid sensory reset for me. I tend to make rhythms out of things (tapping the grinds off the brewer, tapping down the frap blender on the counter before I pour it, cleaning the steam wand and pressing it back) because it's comforting. Again, that's just me, but it's the little things that can calm you \^\_\^
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