Why are people so hell bent on saying thank you sir/ma’am in the drive-thru?? As a transgender woman with a deep voice I get misgendered all the time in the drive-thru intercom. And it’s always because people say “thank you, sir”. Just say thank you! No need to bring gender into it
ContentAd49030 points2y ago
It might be a habit. It took me a long time to stop saying yes sir/ma’am because I got bitched at for not saying it as a child in the south. It was just second nature. I think it’s just a habit and maybe they’re not informed that it’s harmful. That’s what I’d like to think, anyways.
GreenTourmaline1324 points2y ago
This. I'm from the south, and it is INGRAINED. I've tried to stop using honorifics all together, but every so often, I still slip up. I'm sorry that old habits hurt you, and I definitely will try harder to stay neutral! ❤
KingKiller66611 points2y ago
Feel you, I'm ftm and get m'amed all day every day. It's why I avoid dt as much as possible. Guaranteed to ruin my day
lilyarchie20 [OP]7 points2y ago
Same!
Resolution_Spare7 points2y ago
I’ve only recently realized how often I needlessly gender people. I grew up in a military family and it’s a much harder habit to kick than I expected. It’s led me to misgender people quite often, I’m sure.
Hugs to you. You’re valid and worthy. I’m sorry I’ve been part of the problem. Trying to be part of the solution now. ❤️
GayHibiscus5 points2y ago
Just a heads up for fellow trans people here, but if DT voice time is causing dysphoria or discomfort, you can absolutely get a workplace accommodation to not do I as it's detrimental to your mental health.
lilyarchie20 [OP]3 points2y ago
My shifts and store manager are aware that I am uncomfortable on dto, but it is not always something that I can avoid. I'm on bar 90 percent of the time but sometimes I do have to cover dto
h1a4_c0wb0y3 points2y ago
NGL getting misgendered on DTO was what motivated me to actually put effort into voice training. I was living in the south at the time. It sucked so much. I feel your pain.
lilyarchie20 [OP]3 points2y ago
I am currently living in the south. Has voice training helped you? I've looked into it a lot but I don't really know how to begin
h1a4_c0wb0y2 points2y ago
It certainly helped both in not getting misgendered and with my dysphoria in general. Reading into it didn't make much sense to me until a couple friends helped me over discord. Sorry you're in the south. I recently escaped to the Midwest and I'm loving it here despite the cold.
paperbackedsea2 points2y ago
i never say sir or ma’m unless i’m being extremely passive aggressive to a middle aged/elderly customer lol. “excuse me SIR do you have a mask you could put on?” lmao
_tink_2 points2y ago
Is there anything fellow baristas could do in that situation to help you on a day to day or to make you feel more supported??
lilyarchie20 [OP]2 points2y ago
I love all of my coworkers and just being there helps me get through the day. I am very rarely on dto, and when I am it is probably to cover someones break.
csaine2 points2y ago
I'm from northern Michigan originally but moved to the south when I was young. A lot of southerners do this, it is a Big Deal.
josiemoppinnn1 points2y ago
I'm sorry that happens to you! Not transgender, but have had multiple transgender/nonbinary coworkers express the same thing, as much as i wish we could implement a dont assume or dont use pronouns at the ordering station policy or protocall I dont think its everyones intent to harm
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