Everyone should have to work a fast food/retail job so they understand how shitty customers can be.(self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by BachStrad007
I’ve noticed that as I’ve worked at Starbucks, I’ve become a nicer customer to other service workers, because I know what it’s like to be in a service job. I think if everyone worked in an environment like this for some time, customers would be much more agreeable. Spread the word.
King_Spamula107 points2y ago
Could you imagine how slow the wait times would be if our customers would run the floor, even after training? Every time someone is rude or complains about the wait times, I think "I'd like to see them do this" and, "It's not us that are slow, it's the customers each taking three to five minutes to order."
Even if all the slow customers would be behind the counter/window, and we would be the customers, taking thirty seconds to order, they'd still take five minutes to put everything into the computer.
To sum it up: We already provide the best service possible, and the customers don't realize it.
bryceofswadia64 points2y ago
I just wish we had more empathy. Living in a capitalist society, we’ve also just accepted that “it is what it is” and poor peoples only purpose is to make money for rich people.
sten4521 points2y ago
And to be stand in servants
bryceofswadia19 points2y ago
Yep. And they are supposed to be able to just stand for and take any insults or disrespect from the customers.
I am not poor, and I don’t have to be working rn (I’m a minor who still lives with my parents) but I choose to because I wanted my own money. I have the utmost respect for people living paycheck to paycheck, simply because of my experience in the food service industry.
damaged_elevator8 points2y ago
Unfortunately exposure to constant harassment and bullying doesn't lead people to have more empathy, it just teaches them to treat their peers like shit.
bethmcgary758 points2y ago
Yes! As a teen, I worked at Arby's for 2 days before I quit. I did not have thick enough skin. Now I teach 8th grade, so I guess my skin got thicker. 😅
nattie1556 points2y ago
Especially during a fucking pandemic. I feel people are 10 times worse with a pandemic going on.
Allopathological30 points2y ago
The anti-mask Karens are the worst.
“What do you MEAN I CANT SIT DOWN IN HERE”
official_koda_50 points2y ago
I hate how Starbucks is all about “assuming the best” in the customer as if it’s okay for them to treat us like crap just because they have issues going on in their life. I would NEVER be rude or throw a hissy fit to a retail employee regardless of what’s going on in my life. Even if they’re going to a funeral they shouldn’t be rude.
canidieyet_15 points2y ago
exactly!!! even on my worst days i treat all fast food/restaurant/retail workers with all the kindness i can because i know how rude people can be and that one nice customer can make all the difference
VectoredClarinet1 points2y ago
This! I get what they are going for and it makes sense as a business model. In the long run, however, the company is really just encouraging this scenario by rewarding customers for their poor behavior with free drinks and recovery cards. It is basic principles of behaviorism at work.
official_koda_2 points2y ago
Even though every business is all about the customer, Starbucks is way to into it. Like they’re too quick to give away free things, which I don’t think is good business practice. They reward customers for being whiny children.
moon_light5231 points2y ago
Yeah....I had a guy last week who was mad because he didn’t have any stars, and then got mad at Starbucks as a whole lol I felt bad for him, but I was also glad that he wasn’t mad at me if that makes sense
PM-ME-BAKED-GOODS35 points2y ago
I worked at a sandwich shop for 3 years and I’ve never seen any customer be nearly as rude as a Starbucks customer. I think the pieces of crap that abuse baristas are not only terrible people, but their mood is worse because they haven’t had their caffeine yet. Starbucks might actually have the worst customers in the world.
imeanitpeanut25 points2y ago
Caffeine is an addictive substance, and withdrawal from it fucks up the brain and makes people cranky. That and the fact that we’re a bit expensive brings in more affluent clientele, who tend to be more entitled and snobby.
luvloping3 points2y ago
I was a bartender/cocktail server at a casino for years, and casino patrons are wild... with that being said, starbucks customers are wayyyy worse, they are just a different breed of human.
amcc0421 points2y ago
agreed! my dad and I both strongly believe everyone should work at least 6mo fast food & 6mo restaurant service!
the way people treat fast food and restaurant service employees is appalling. esp people who have never worked in one and do not understand that 75-90% of the time they’re yelling at someone for something out of their control
Allopathological14 points2y ago
We had a lady today who ordered the most complicated espresso drink I’ve ever seen (like 4 sauces in different pump amounts, in a venti double cup, extra foam hot dry foam, skim milk extra steamed, salt topping, etc...)
Then she hands me a gift card and says she wants to reload it and then use it to pay for her order.
Have to void the order, fill the card, redo the order, then process it.
Whole process took literally 10 minutes during peak and the line behind her was out the door.
She also started telling me how to punch it in (in the order she wanted it punched in) to ensure “the barista gets it right” like lady no matter how I punch this in the barista is gonna read the whole thing and laugh at you.
Then the guy behind her was bitching at me about how slow I am and “this is my job” Like bro did you hear this shit? You try and punch that in.
BachStrad007 [OP]6 points2y ago
Exactly. People don’t understand, especially older customers. I have yet to have a young customer behave in a way similar to a “Karen”. I think there’s a message there.
Allopathological3 points2y ago
Old people are the worst offenders for masks.
Like this geriatric plague rat is literally in front of me coughing a lung up while bitching about the drink prices and screeching about how covid is a lie whilst wearing his mask like a chin diaper. Then he gets mad at me for suggesting he wear his mask properly.
bexbux1 points2y ago
there’s some 😩 it’s rare, but it’s the facial expression they make or being like “this is disgusting! remake it”
bexbux3 points2y ago
you have to void the order?? I usually save the order, reload, then it automatically finds the order again after! or i just scan and wait for the screen to ask if they want to reload when they owe money :)
Allopathological2 points2y ago
It wouldn’t let me save it, I kept getting errored out
sandycat5551 points2y ago
I usually scan the card anyway, then the register tells me it’s empty and do you want to add money to the card. I add the money at that point in the process.
Had one customer who didn’t understand what was going on with it, even from the receipt which showed the play-by-play.
LilKaySigs13 points2y ago
I’ll catch myself at a Wendy’s or In N Out drive thru going “Jesus can they hurry it up?” but then I recall yesterday of me working a Starbucks drive thru and I just calm down and wait patiently
bexbux3 points2y ago
I expect at least a 1 hour wait time when I go to in n out. even pre pandemic 😭 but it’s worse now
austamas_11 points2y ago
Counter point; No one should be exploited for labour or be forced into a degrading position to accumulate wealth for another person.
BachStrad007 [OP]5 points2y ago
I’m not sure I entirely agree with that. Service workers are an essential business, and we as baristas bring coffee to millions of people across America. A few executives couldn’t even begin to try to do that without help. So, while I see your point, I do think that service jobs can be good start-out jobs for teens, or people who are still working towards a higher education, or a certain career.
austamas_-6 points2y ago
Everything that we do could be done by a vending machine. The argument that "The human experience" is what makes it stand out is really just saying that the industry relies on exploitation.
Why would we force teens to get acclimated to being walked all over if we just didn't allow corporations to exploit them like that ever.
With adequate UBI people could work if they wanted to while also having time to fulfill themselves academically, professionally, or artistically without spending 40 hours a week wasting away trying to make rent. No one should be forced to work these jobs.
BachStrad007 [OP]-1 points2y ago
I see what you’re saying, but putting people out of jobs in exchange for vending machines, robots, etc. would lead to an economic collapse. Whether people are trying to fulfill themselves academically or artistically, or whatever, they still need to support themselves. The government can’t pay people to just sit around and not work. That would require a completely different economic model. And then with a universal basic income, there wouldn’t be any reason for people to work. No country has ever used a UBI, and those that have abandoned it shortly after its implementation. America with a UBI could lend itself to becoming a country of freeloaders.
austamas_6 points2y ago
It actually was tried in the US and Canada on small scale with great success but was scrapped by the newly appointed Republican and Conservative governments respectively.
The studies showed (Specifically in the study done in a city in Ontario Can) that people don't quit their job. They reduced their hours pretty much across the board but practically none quit.
In fact most of the anti UBI rhetoric is based on a falsified study from late 1800s England that showed people didnt work unless they were destitute. There's an amazing book by the title of "Utopia for Realists" that goes way more into depth about all this.
plushiequeenaspen6 points2y ago
So I run doordash occasionally when I need extra money. Doordash gives you a credit card (the "red card") to pay for orders at certain restaurants. I went to pick up an order that wasn't paid for yet (a normal red card order) and it turned out the restaurant hadn't even received the order. I arrived at the restaurant and doordash was like "yeah place order and pay for it" and I was like ??? So I placed the order, paid with the red card, and then had to wait. It was a fancy hibachi restaurant and the order ended up taking a whole hour to be prepared (time I could have spent picking up other orders and making money). I texted the customer early on to let her know what was going on, and I expected her to be upset. I would be too tbh. She ended up being SUPER nice about the whole thing, she completely understood that it wasn't my fault even though I couldn't explain why it got screwed up so badly. When I got to her house to drop it off, she gave me an extra $5 (on top of the $10 she had already tipped digitally) and said it was to make up for how much time I lost on her one order and I literally cried about it.
Anyway, TLDR, she had so obviously worked in the service industry. She understood that it wasn't my fault and she went out of her way to make sure I knew she wasn't upset with me and it meant so much. People with that experience tend to treat other service employees better and it shows. Everyone should work a service job so they learn a little respect and learn that we aren't just lower class trash that can be treated like shit.
NervosaNervous4 points2y ago
At my old job, we had this one customer who was berating and screaming at one of my coworkers because she was doing her job correctly and he didn’t like that. One of my coordinators went over and took over for her, then told the gentleman if he thinks he can do her job better than she can, he is more than welcome to try. He actually did try, but the coordinator kept saying all of the things he was doing wrong. Finally the guy gave up and went back to his place in line. My coordinator said, “That was only two minutes you lasted. She has to deal with rude people like you for 8+ hours a day 5+ hours a week. So unless you are actually willing to stand here and be berated the same way you berated her, you need to suck it up and stand in line. She’s a HUMAN BEING. You do not get to treat my employees like that.” He was my favorite coordinator for obvious reasons. He always stood up for us against the Karen’s and the Kevin’s of the world.
jeffreyreeves3 points2y ago
I've recently started working at Starbucks on my 3rd ish week almost finishing my training. My god how I'm starting to hate this job, how some people can be so rude sickens me. A guy shouted at me today for no right reason. I've never worked in such a job like this where it's so bad I'm starting to already want to quit but don't want to cause it's hard to find a job in this pandemic.
Bryancreates1 points2y ago
I wish I could stay “stick with it” but it’ll never be like it was. My first store was an established popular downtown location and we were treated like rockstars. Everyone knew you downtown, people would bring us gifts, money, talk to us, create a great environment that was fun and we were proud of it. Then I moved to a drive-thru and it was way different, but it was still night and day to how it was 9 years later when I left. I liked the fast paced style of a drive thru and still had a vibrant cafe experience. I left a year before Covid hit and still have friends that are partners, and the stories keep getting worse and worse. So it sucks, because even when it was shitty it was never as bad as it now, and SBUX really allowed me to grow as a working professional, people skills, etc. Hopefully things turn around and some of that fun can be had again.
deadfliesinsummer3 points2y ago
I’d worked three food service jobs over the course of two years, even waitressing for just 9 months. People are such dicks. Starbs is the closest I’ve been to fast food though, and damnnnnn 👀
bbun2232 points2y ago
We constantly get accused that DT takes precedence at our store. Yes we always put our fastest bar partner on dt bar but both dt and cafe bar have 1 person making all the drinks. We can’t control that someone in cafe gets a large order or that all cafe drinks get pushed back from the endless mobiles we receive. People who come into the cafe (during a pandemic no less) and get up in arms about wait times and social distancing are a whole different breed of ignorant. They don’t realize how it makes us behind the bar feel when they walk in with a group of 5 people and we tell them they need to separate and people need to wait outside. And then you have people who literally think their drinks must be made by a vending machine because they mobile order and pull into DT one minute after it was placed.... I just can’t with people
lexibelles1 points2y ago
My store is across the street from a Taco Bell. One day an employee from said taco bell came and ordered a caramel frap and a pike. I called out "I have a grande pike place for *her name* , thats the first of your two drinks" and before I could take a breath she YELLS "NO NO NO, THIS IS COMPLETELY WRONG!" She proceeds to tell me she ordered a black coffee and a caramel frap. I then explain that is exactly what I just set in front of her. I hand her the frap when its done and she rolls her eyes at me and leaves. Like, you work in service, why do you act like that??
Jayhawker081 points2y ago
I haven’t worked in the service industry in 12+ years, but I still remember the 5-7 years I spent working retail in high-school and college, mostly Walmart, and everyday I’m thankful I do not work in the service industry.
I have tremendous empathy and respect for those that still do and I always try to make their lives a little easier by not being a pain in the ass or the little stuff like putting my cart in the cart return so somebody doesn’t have to go fetch it or dumping the ice out of my cup before I throw it away so someone doesn’t have to drag a soggy garbage through the store at the end of the day.
You all have some of the most difficult jobs, period; long shifts, crap pay, and dealing with dick heads all day. I salute you.
urlocaltransboy1 points2y ago
I can say getting my job at starbucks gave me a helpful insight into what being a food service employee is like, but I don't think it should take someone getting a job in it for them to treat workers with respect...Before I got my job now I still made a point to show all workers, regardless of where I was, compassion and understanding. It really is not hard. The superiority complex some people have with food workers is appalling and certainly speaks for their character. Regardless, everyone should always be showing everyone common decency.
Tlw911 points2y ago
1000% agree, i work in a target starbucks...
lobotomydreams1 points2y ago
honestly you'd be surprised how often we get shitty partners as customers- i've been screamed at by them before lol sadly this doesn't affect some people
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