anybody wanna tell these people we are in the middle of a pandemic and unfortunately starbucks baristas are not immune to covid-19?? the entitlement and lack of awareness of our customers absolutely baffles me.(i.redd.it)
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jchbegg199 points2y ago
I wouldn't mind the reviews if they actually kept their promises and never came back lmfao
philosopher_cat_lady14 points2y ago
When stupid customers have ridiculous complaints and go, "This is why I go to \[nearby coffeeshop\]! The customer service here is ridiculous!" I think to myself, 'Please go there. You're a terrible customer and I don't want you to come back."
greyplains87 points2y ago
And they wonder why CC's, morale, and engagement are down...
Modaby22 points2y ago
It’s crappy they demand numbers to remain consistent given the circumstances. What they think we are just ‘yes man’ robots?
philosopher_cat_lady9 points2y ago
Ridiculous. They should want numbers to be down. We should be closed. If they insist on being open, which they do, they should have a limited menu and NOT do product and merchandise launches.
Modaby4 points2y ago
Most their products besides milk don’t expire as quickly as say restaurants do with all the produce used in restaurants.
They should start taking care of their employees better. Sure they have decent perks for employees but they make it very difficult for employees to get them because they schedule a lot of their employees under a certain amount so they do not get benefits Starbucks brags about offering.
I’ve heard they use prison labor for some things, I have to look into it to verify but not including the prison labor thing..
They are a shit company that exploits there workers and acts holier than thou because they offer benefits so they make face to the public and seem like a good company.. but they make it difficult if not impossible for their employees to get said benefits they offer.
philosopher_cat_lady4 points2y ago
They're a company who does not care about their employees but does PR saying that they do. I got in trouble for saying ACAB on my Facebook account when I was talking about a cop who came into my store and refused to wear a mask, and my store manager got a Christmas bonus for cutting labor costs by cutting our hours. She won't admit it, but we all know it. She cut scheduled hours in a pandemic during holiday.
bingethinker161 points2y ago
Our customer connection went down so in response they cut our staffing hours.... that will surely help them go up. DM and RMs really come up with the best ideas. /s
golden_pinky57 points2y ago
When people complain about our hours I just flat out tell them "some of our crew got covid or were exposed." I refuse to get in trouble for acknowledging reality. That's our issue as Americans so I'm not going to perpetuate our inability to see what's happening.
lily-amber13 points2y ago
Good! I don’t apologize to them because it’s not our fault. I always tell them if they complain that we are often making up for other stores in business when they have to close due to understaffing. I mean when they come in to the cafe/drive it’s not like they didn’t see the line. They make the choice and commitment to wait so if they complain and are rude, they may or may not get their order pushed back 🤫
philosopher_cat_lady1 points2y ago
Utter nonsense. They should be glad they're alive. Plus they shouldn't be coming to Starbucks in the first place.
philosopher_cat_lady2 points2y ago
Thank you for being honest. I had a huge problem with being told to lie to customers about COVID. It made me feel terrible but it was what I was supposed to do and it was easier. Now I bluntly blurt out the truth. The learning curve is over, it's time to accept reality. And I don't think politeness fucking matters anymore.
Here are my responses to the stupid questions:
1. "Why is my drink in a mug?" To minimize contact 2. "Why is the Starbucks at that location closed?" Probably due to COVID concerns 3. "Y'all don't have any seating?" We have seating outside 4. "Will you throw this away for me?" No, I'm not allowed to touch your trash
Stripsteak54 points2y ago
Entitlement is a hell of a drug. These people have no clue what it’s like to be inconvenienced in the slightest.
Modaby12 points2y ago
It is entitlement and emotional immaturity and a lack of emotional intelligence. They are adult children throwing temper tantrums, don’t let them bully you Guys with mean words.
mariannecleaver39 points2y ago
I had a lady come in a while back while we were half staffed due to someone having COVID. She was complaining about the same thing, hours being changed and us closing early at times. I apologized and told her that due to a pandemic, some of our staff do not feel comfortable working anymore (a lie but I wanted to passively reiterate that we are in a pandemic). She had the nerve to say “Well, I don’t see why having less staff makes a difference, with your cafe being closed it’s not like you guys have a lot to do anyways”............I’ve never been more mad at a customer before
clee122138 points2y ago
Sorry you have to deal with this, partner!
esidra80837 points2y ago
Lmaooo looks like the reviews for my store. Stfuuuuu karen !!!! make ur 8 splenda extra hot latte at home
garbagecandoattitude21 points2y ago
Though their “”lovely & tolerant”” personalities are shining through between the lines, at least the comments appear to be attacking the company rather than the staff. And TB completely H, somewhat deservedly so, on behalf of you guys too – someone in corporate could absolutely take the 5 seconds to draft a message about COVID closures, and it would take similarly little time for a developer to get it on the app.
Corporate established the brand reputation and customer expectations, why can’t they put in a smidge of effort to mitigate the fallout? Instead they let their lowest level employees, already at physical risk with a customer-facing job, handle all the explanations and blame.
ih8yogurt12 points2y ago
“Because we don’t wanna create mass panic” 🙄
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paddymag3 points2y ago
Let's see... Customers are less frustrated because the store's status is correct in the app and not wasting time driving to an "Open" store or having a negative appearance to the media. I'll take the less frustrated customer everyday.
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Js_On_My_Yeet15 points2y ago
Pandemic isn't in their dictionary. Common sense people.
oversoakedoreo10 points2y ago
I dont think common sense is in their vocabulary either.
Js_On_My_Yeet1 points2y ago
I second that notion.
ItsAlwaysSunday13 points2y ago
Expecting the place to be open all the time is ridiculous but correct info on whether it's open or not is reasonable. Not your job pf course, but from the customer perspective itd be annoying to see online that it's open then go there and it's closed. Not that that warrants a 1 star review though, they do need to chill
teet_teet10 points2y ago
I whole-heartedly blame Starbucks for this. They have largely dropped the ball on COVID in the most hair-brained ways including but not limited to:
💥suddenly agreeing to pay every partner regardless of whether or not they chose to work for months on end. -This understandably caused a weird rift between those who stayed and those who left. -This also caused Starbucks to have to suddenly enact hazard pay to make up for the work the partners who stayed were doing so they felt in some way compensated for keeping the company afloat. -This also caused some partners who stayed home to find less stressful/exposed jobs, making two paychecks while partners who worked in stores made one. Many of these partners also took a severance package after not having worked in a store for two months.
💥offering free food and drink to partners*, first responders, essential workers, etc. for months on end. (And then continually lengthening it) *while I do appreciate this and understand why it was needed for so many, it has caused additional stress on partners for months.
-This caused an influx of unnecessary, non-paying people into our stores including but not limited to: health care workers (possibly the most exposed group of people we see), first responders (of whom are not required to wear masks in our city), other partners who are either not working or are positive/exposed and supposed to be self isolating but sneak to other stores for their mark outs, and countless people asking if they fall under healthcare/essential because they are vet techs, cosmetologists, etc. all of whom we have to serve while GROSSLY understaffed.
💥suddenly realizing they shat the bed when paying every warm body in the company while half our stores were closed and all of them were severely reduced and severing MANY remaining partners, leaving us completely paralyzed
💥continuing to host major promotions, including Happy Hours, Delivery and MOP, ignoring the fact that our stores are glaringly understaffed and can’t handle the orders we are receiving
💥failing to offer a cohesive plan for all stores and failing to take into account how suddenly stores can become short-staffed
-This leaves supervisors and SMs having to choose the lesser of two poor customer experiences: keep the lobby/mobile open and drown, or shut it down and lose money/upset customers.
-Shutting off mobile still causes countless customers to submit orders to other stores and show up at ours, choking our lines, again, without us receiving a sale.
-Closing the lobby causes customers to get out of the drive thru line and come up to a locked door.
-This causes non-stop phone calls we can’t answer, filled with complaints and canceled orders we’ve already filled and people asking to place orders over the phone.
-This also causes us to have to suddenly close the lobby when it gets out of hand, which is tacky and requires locking the doors on people and herding them out one door. It also causes mobile customers to leave and come back later for a remake, more lost product.
-This also causes tacky hand-scribbled notes that customers can’t read from the road, that change every day and can never be anticipated.
💥we still can’t turn off high-use items that we have a hard time keeping in stock or that Starbucks has outages of and customers can still force through items we’re out of if it’s saved in their mobile order -This backs us up because we have to wait until they get there, LET THEM DOWN BECAUSE THEY’VE ALREADY PAID, and try to make it up to them while stopping production on everything else. -This also causes us to give out service recovery cards non-stop, used for more unpaid products.
💥allowing customers to elect us as their own personal shoppers, ordering expensive merchandise through mobile, most of which are impossible to keep up with in Item Availability, especially when they only send 2-4 of each high-trending cup. -This causes customers to waste rewards on items we don’t have or have. -This causes someone to have to leave their position during peak and search high and low and front and back for some ridiculous item based on its sku and a few letters.
IT IS A MESS.
Our store isn’t being cleaned and the floors aren’t being mopped, it’s impossible to place orders in a timely manor or know what to order because we never know when we’ll be open and we are too short staffed to dedicate appropriate time to it.
Our partners are run-down and defeated, we cry daily, are having personal breakdowns, and our SM and supervisors are just shells at this point.
It’s heartbreaking to disappoint the customers we love. We are being abused by customers who don’t get it or seek to prod us. We are having to battle anti-maskers and scammers and it’s enough. It really is.
coolcootermcgee3 points2y ago
Do, do I upvote? My lord this is awful!
Ashamed_Equal2 points2y ago
We have a whiteboard in the back that keeps track of how many days since someone cried … hasn’t gone above 3 in a really long time 😞
teet_teet1 points2y ago
We could easily do this.
teet_teet2 points2y ago
And reach Starbucks Facebook comments, customers are constantly complaining about practically everything I’ve previously stated. It’s sad.
Saradigm8 points2y ago
Lol the last one, somebody was having a temper tantrum in the parking lot. Reviewing a Starbucks doesn’t do anything. People have already shown they’re willing to wait 10 minutes in line for like a drip coffee. Like we could do anything and there would still be a steady flow of cars. Please, you’re embarrassing yourselves.
happilyeveremma7 points2y ago
When my store was reduced hours (8:30-1) for 2 weeks because we only had 3 people who hadn’t been exposed and were pulling staff from other stores, customers were insufferable. “Well these new hours are very inconvenient for me,” “why is your drive thru line all the way out to the street? I can’t believe I just waited 25 minutes for this” “why can’t I come inside? I need to use the restroom, you won’t even let me in to pee?? *shocked pikachu*” also, in my district, there’s a store next to a walk-in clinic that does covid tests. There were people who would go in to the walk-in get a covid test, then come into the Starbucks immediately after. So we had to close the inside of the store to limit that happening and people were livid.
jennafromtheblock226 points2y ago
Hopefully these reviews keep people from coming in and give y’all a break
KJ2998SJ6 points2y ago
God. The number of people that come in waves to my store despite the fact that we are in a lockdown. I want to just yell at them that they're the reason we're all in this mess. But I also would like to keep my job so I keep my mouth shut.
vwar005 points2y ago
I really wish Starbucks would let us be transparent with customers when we are short staffed due to covid. I feel like it is like a person having herpes to disclose to who ever they come in contact with what's up and make it their decision if the want to potentially be exposed or not. Is our system 100% when it comes to isolating the right partners idk i just make coffee but i know that as a customer i would like to be informed of things like this.
iWantToBeARealBoy2 points2y ago
I always tell customers. If they complain about our hours, us being closed, or long wait times, I always tell them it is because we have people who had to isolate.
Ashamed_Equal5 points2y ago
We get the same comments at my store! @Customers, would you rather we give you a side of covid with your extra hot, no foam drinks?
coolcootermcgee2 points2y ago
You know they prolly already had it so they don’t think it should take one second longer than it used to to get their drink. (Not trying to covid shame, just noting a trend in behavior)
coffeeismymetaphor5 points2y ago
Are we at the same store?!
sci-fi-lullaby5 points2y ago
Ikr?! Half of the staff at my store was quarantined just before Christmas. We closed early for a whole week and as I was putting the sign out one day this Karen yells at me that "what I'm doing is a terrible thing" like ok bitch XD
AUserNameThatsTaken14 points2y ago
Customer comes in with mask on and heads to order
Me: Hello!! how are you today?
Them: I’m good, you?
Me: Im good too what can I get for you today
Them, pulls down mask: I’ll have a
Me, making sure the plastic shield is protecting me: Imma need you to have your mask cover your mouth.
Them: You won’t be able to hear me then
Me: I need your mask to cover your mouth
Them, puts mask on correctly (thankfully I didn’t need to tell them to cover nose as well): Ok I’ll have a Venti Mocha Crumble Frappachino
Me, hears them clearly: Ok will that be all?
Them: And a red velvet loaf
Me repeats order and tells total
Just wear your fucking mask people and yes I can fucking hear you and you can hear me. My mask has two reusable filters in it and you can hear me clearly then your mask that’s a lot thinner than mine and if that was so just speak up it’s not harder to do than wearing a mask.
H0ll0wHag4 points2y ago
The Starbucks I always go to was recently closed, for quite a while, actually. I don't mind because I just hoped everyone was safe. Before knowing that they were closed, I went maybe twice to be met with disappointment. However, some of the people that were there for coffee, both going in store and drive thru, we're wild. Trying to force the doors open, yelling at the intercom, you name it. People are crazy.
coolcootermcgee6 points2y ago
I’m generally surprised by the older customers who genuinely still want inside so they can assemble/just sit in there With their black 8oz drip for four hours or whatever. Do you people want to catch covid and die? Cause that’s what you’re trying to do...
medusas-garden3 points2y ago
We had a partner test positive so we closed the store early and one of our shifts put their car in front of the drive thru so nobody could get in and someone left a bad review about a car blocking the way.
Modaby3 points2y ago
Try not to take it personal. Let these children pull a bitch fit and complain because they cannot handle any type of inconvenience that wasn’t according to their plans and anytime they get told ‘no’ they throw a full adult toddler temper tantrum and rant to Yelp about it.
These people clearly don’t have emotional coping skills and a low EQ.
subaruforesters2 points2y ago
I just looked at the google reviews for the stores near me that have closed lately, and they look exactly the same. I wish we could just be transparent about why these closures are happening. So many other businesses in my area let people know that there was an exposure and they're playing it safe by closing for a while, and people get so much less upset.
NervosaNervous2 points2y ago
We had someone come to our drive thru when we were the only store open for a month and a half and complain that the line was too long. I apologized and explained that the other stores in the area were closed so we were getting all of their business and she still didn’t understand why that would make the line so long 🙄
hidood1012 points2y ago
i juat transfered to a new store in a red state (blue town tho) so im actually so fucking worried that customers are gonna be shitty like this
philosopher_cat_lady2 points2y ago
People are ridiculously stupid. I will agree with at least one of those comments though. It's helpful for customers to have the official Starbucks signs posted saying how the store operates. If it's temporarily closed, if it's only providing service in the drive-thru, what its hours are. When we don't do that, people get confused. I'm always advocating for official signs to be posted at our store, and when shift supervisors don't care to do it, customers get confused and bother us. They yell at me while I'm in my drive-thru window from the parking lot next door, they honk in our parking lot, etc. Now that store may have posted a sign at their drive-thru saying they were closed and the wind blew it down, who knows. Shit happens, people. We've had hurricanes lately in our state. One of our trees fell down; luckily, it didn't cause any damage. As for the light being on in the store, who cares? Maybe they don't care about saving electricity, maybe they like to leave it on for security purposes (makes the store look like it's open which makes burglary less of a risk), maybe they forgot to turn it off.
The customers who honked in our parking lot: it was some teenage girls. My shift supervisor unlocked the front door to tell them we were closed (not supposed to do this). The girls were like, "Why are y'all closed? Your sign says you close at 7:00." My SS said, "We closed early since it's Christmas Eve." I was like, "I told y'all we should have put up a new sign."
nahnprophet2 points2y ago
Those people are pissy, but your manager should probably just make the effort to post a sign saying you're closed on the drivethrough.
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delidoll26 points2y ago
dude idk that’s not my job I’m just a barista who has to deal with these people day in and day out lol (also nowadays if a place abruptly closes I just assume, and anybody with any type of common sense and compassion would as well, assume that a staff member got covid. this pandemic isn’t new and I don’t know why they think taking this stuff out on baristas is cool).
lelaluv17 points2y ago
stores do update the hours... on their store. we can’t update the hours on the starbucks app. so if we close due to covid we can’t get on the app and make it show that we’re closed. maybe people should just relax, it is literally just coffee.
hufflepuffisonfleek7 points2y ago
We have a similar review on my store, but in our case, it’s literally just because everything keeps breaking. Dto computer stops working? Dt only. Front computer stops working? Dt only. And our newest problem: No Network? Dt only.
Also because the network is down we really shouldn’t be open, we can barely put orders in and our store is bleeding money. We literally are losing more than we are making. I love my store but I can’t wait to leave and go to my new one where everything works.
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justyounevermind11 points2y ago
So I’m just a customer, not a barista. I work in a field heavily impacted by the pandemic. I find that since I’m dealing with illness and people who are impacted by it, it’s very hard to keep info current sometimes. My Starbucks has often been closed unexpectedly as well, but I realize that they are dealing with time-sensitive issues just like the rest of us. Maybe they planned to open that day but they had too many call outs and couldn’t? Perhaps the opener had a fever and erred on the side of caution and didn’t come in? There are so many factors here that lead to them not being able to open sometimes—factors completely outside of their control!
Each of us is doing the best we can right now. And personally I appreciate my baristas not giving me a side of COVID with my coffee lol. So if I miss my caffeine boost that day, that’s on me. If I’m late as I didn’t plan well, that’s on me.
Thank you baristas for all that you do. And know that many of us here understand and appreciate your hard work.
mhgl2 points2y ago
Oh, I agree completely. When my local store is closed, I just say god damn it and get back in my car. I don’t have any animosity toward the store at all.
I have animosity toward the corporation for not giving the stores a better way to deal with this. The partners at my local store are top notch but handicapped by the tools they’ve been given.
ih8yogurt3 points2y ago
Helpful tip. Check the app before you go, see if you can place a mobile order (even if you don’t want to place one) if mobile orders are OFF (you can’t place an order) then the store is closed.
Another option would be to call the store and see if anyone picks up. If no one picks up the phone the store is most likely closed.
mhgl-1 points2y ago
> Check the app before you go, see if you can place a mobile order (even if you don’t want to place one) if mobile orders are OFF (you can’t place an order) then the store is closed.
I should have clarified, I only mobile order. That’s why it’s so irritating. I mobile order, pay for it, get to the store, and they’re closed.
So I lose the time I spent going to the store plus the time dealing with corporate to get the refund.
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forevertraineeofSB15 points2y ago
Alright for those of you who don’t know, we partners are not allowed to put up ANY signage that is not given to us directly from corporate. We can’t even decorate our tip jars. A lot of stores do this anyway but technically we are not allowed to put up signs we personally write. I know it’s super inconvenient but there’s your answer🤷🏻♀️ We got in trouble for putting up a “turn off your wipers” sign in DT while it was raining🤦🏻♀️ It’s a lose-lose situation, unfortunately.
coolcootermcgee1 points2y ago
Why did you ask customers not to use their wipers during the rain? Who is going to call corporate and complain, if the sign is helpful and tells them what they wanted to know? Why would corporate punish anyone at this moment in time for trying to create a save space for their customers and employees (partners?) would they actually do it? You want bad press, that’s how you get the local news involved. “Starbucks manager fired for putting up covid updates”- front page anyone?
forevertraineeofSB1 points2y ago
To answer your first question, the wipers splash water on us through the DT window. It’s polite to turn wipers off so we don’t get wet while receiving payment/handing off orders.
coolcootermcgee1 points2y ago
Holy moly! That makes sense
Fiddleyfig3 points2y ago
We have no control over what google says our hours are. There are tons of stores, not just Starbucks, that have different hours of operation than google says. Idk maybe because we’re in a PANDEMIC and we’re all just taking it day to day
hellbounded732 points2y ago
It's too bad you can't do anything to inform customers about things that is important and so on. But the management maybe don't think that's to important, it's just the customers they upset. I understand you gets frustrated about this... Stay Healthy friend's 🙏🌸
cuntsmellula3 points2y ago
I’m with you, seems pretty easy to put a sign on the door and properly notify customers. But we are in the era of entitlement so I see both sides.
ih8yogurt7 points2y ago
We also aren’t allowed to tell customers that someone may have COVID in fear of creating “panic”
Some stores we can’t even tell our coworkers we got tested without getting in trouble
cuntsmellula0 points2y ago
That makes sense!
Ashamed_Equal6 points2y ago
It honestly doesn’t make sense. We should be allowed to be open and honest with people and we should be allowed to put up signs to tell people why we’re closed so that baristas don’t get shit on when we reopen, and we should be able to put signs up requiring customers to wear masks in drivethru. It makes no sense at all and it’s so stupid!
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