Partner of the Quarter Drama(self.starbucksbaristas)
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_Bon_BonT28 points2y ago
You should’ve just not responded and instead liked the message or something. Your response was childish and rude regardless if you like her or not, everybody can see that in group chat and that’s why u got called out.
philosopher_cat_lady-10 points2y ago
I was aware of the connotation of my message when I wrote it, but I feel like my err was not as great as the one of my shift supervisor. Taking your argument at face value, it seems like I'm held to a higher standard of professionalism than my shift supervisor is.
philosopher_cat_lady-7 points2y ago
Also, I just don't agree that my action can be classified as 'childish' when in reality this person is mean to me on a regular basis to where I literally am afraid to communicate with her. It's not as simple as 'I don't like her.'
pink_haired_bitch7 points2y ago
You ever heard of “two wrongs don’t make a right”?
philosopher_cat_lady-4 points2y ago
I guess I didn't think it was that big a deal. She's aware I don't like her. The very first time I ever worked with her she was mean to me several times.
philosopher_cat_lady-2 points2y ago
Also, doesn't this same logic apply to my shift supervisor who should have fussed at me in private?
rio8envy714 points2y ago
Yeah. Even if you don’t think this other person deserves POQ you should still congratulate them if you do the other person otherwise say nothing or privately tell the other person.
philosopher_cat_lady-2 points2y ago
I don't agree. I don't think being an intentionally unhelpful and mean partner is something I should congratulate. I do agree that I didn't have to say my message in public. It was an indirect way for me to try to alert the rest of the team to this issue, but the thing is it's become clear to me that it's a problem that's just not going to be solved.
rio8envy73 points2y ago
I’m not saying being mean and unhelpful is ok or warrants congratulations but whether your intention was to call this person out or not in a group text is just as bad and is kind of rude. That’s why I said maybe you’d be better off if you just pulled that one person aside to congratulate them.
I think in terms of the issue at hand you need to talk to a shift supervisor or your manager. If that doesn’t work maybe you need to talk to your district manager. If it’s verbal abuse call the partner hotline because that’s not ok and shouldn’t be tolerated.
philosopher_cat_lady5 points2y ago
Since I have talked to my shift supervisor and store manager about the partner's behavior, I have considered talking to my district manager about it. I'm starting to realize that a transfer is my best course of action in that it's the simplest and fastest. My mental health regarding this has been bad. I mean, I'm on Reddit talking to strangers about it.
rio8envy73 points2y ago
I get it. I had one of my shifts treat me like absolute shit and try to get me fired. It really screwed with my mental health.
Call partner hotline. You can make an anonymous complaint and they’ll help you. You shouldn’t be subjected to that.
NotyourangeLbabe12 points2y ago
Honestly I think what you did was pretty rude. If you wanted to congratulate Person A and only Person A, you should have done it in a private text. What you did just looks catty towards Person B. And I reckon it’s not going to make anything any better in regards to the issues the two of you already have. If your managers response to you having a toxic work environment was cutting your hours, that might be a little telling of how your behavior in this workplace drama is being perceived. Maybe it’s time to do some looking inward to see if all the blame isn’t just on this coworker you don’t like. Clearly she gets on well enough with others to be voted partner of the quarter.
pink_haired_bitch4 points2y ago
Same as I was thinking. There’s one partner at our store that everyone has had a personal problem with. Because I’ve handled it well, I get legitimate conversations on how to fix the problem and take statements because I can diffuse situations with said partner. They’ve come up to me and straight tried to instigate problems and I just diffuse it. I know they would never be voted partner of the quarter. So one why wouldn’t you be taken seriously with complaints if nobody likes them, and two how did they get voted parter of the quarter if they aren’t liked by anyone and they’re a problem partner? Sounds a little sus just sayin
philosopher_cat_lady2 points2y ago
It doesn't make things better and most assuredly makes them worse, especially since this SS responded to it, but it was clearly a cry for help. I've already talked to my manager about transferring for this reason (I do have other reasons but this one was the one I implied was my main issue), and she was really receptive to the idea.
I know this whole situation is strange, and my mind has been reeling all day trying to figure it out. I think the partner only picks on me. She's very friendly to other baristas, but I think that's partly a feedback loop due to the fact that they've never had an issue with her and are friendly to her in the first place. I have seen other partners do the same things I've done that have caused her to fuss at me (the example that comes to mind is bringing dirty dishes to the sink while she's on customer support and therefore washing dishes), and she does not fuss at them. She fussed at me for bringing dishes so many times I don't do it anymore if she's in the store because I once did it when she was in the store and I wasn't even aware she was clocked on let alone on customer support. Sometimes it's a mild comment not to bring dishes, sometimes it's aggressive.
As for my hours being shorter than before, this situation is not the only possible cause. The end of holiday season, block scheduling, other partners' availabilities are all factors. I was actually fine with having shorter hours because I prefer working less and also because it meant less working time with the partner so less anxiety.
Thank you for your response. It's helped me to better understand my thought process.
NotyourangeLbabe1 points2y ago
Unfortunately, a group text message with all your coworkers was an inappropriate way to cry for help in this situation. I understand that this partner has made you feel bullied and it’s messing with your mental health, that is of course not okay! But that Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t hold yourself accountable for your actions. No matter how you slice it, the way you responded was rude and unprofessional. It just was. That doesn’t mean the context doesn’t matter, but you can’t deny that what you did was unnecessary and detrimental to an already toxic workplace environment. Your cry for help absolutely came off as you stirring the pot. I saw in another comment you mentioned possibly transferring. If you’ve talked to your manager and SSV’s, then perhaps transferring is your best bet. Adding fuel to the fire is not the way to get your management team on your side. If you need to, talk to your DM. If you’re saying you’re experiencing verbal abuse from a partner and no one on your stores management team is coming to your aid, then that’s a store wide issue that should be addressed regardless of wether or not you decide to transfer
philosopher_cat_lady0 points2y ago
I just don't think what I did is that big a deal. Honestly, I should be doing more to warn my coworkers about this employee's behavior. Every time they do something she's berated me for before, I get scared for them. I have definitely thought about contacting my DM, but I've got my manager looking for a transfer right now. It's a much safer bet as a solution to my problem. As for what motivated me to write that message, maybe I subconsciously wanted motivation to finally transfer like I'd been thinking about for months now and talking to my manager about. It could have been self-destructive and a way to get called out as having THAT much of a problem with a coworker. As for the fact that this situation is something that isn't tolerable at Starbucks (verbal abuse, bullying, etc.), I think it's pretty clear to see that my management team doesn't care. The first time this partner was mean to me, I immediately told my shift supervisor about it and even used the term 'verbal abuse.' Then that same shift supervisor fussed at me in the group chat the other day. It's not my job to make them care. It's my job to take care of myself.
NotyourangeLbabe2 points2y ago
Honestly, if after what everyone has commented, you’re still saying “i don’t get why it’s a big deal”, I’m really starting to believe that you are indeed a big issue in this situation. What you did was childish and you are just refusing to accept that and admit you’ve done something wrong. Indicating that it’s not just your behavior here that was childish, but perhaps you’re just a childish person that has some growing to do.
FoxyOnTheRun_3 points2y ago
Dude you can’t throw shade in the group chat!! It’s NEVER as slick as you think it is and someone is always going to know what’s up. And, as in this case, possibly call you on it.
And like I get it. I can’t stand some of my partners, one bullying shift in particular, but you gotta keep that stuff out of text! Don’t leave a paper trail! Keep it to yourself OR (carefully, quietly) talk trash in person with like minded people. This is meant to be a society we live in after all
philosopher_cat_lady0 points2y ago
Definitely good advice, but we *are* on Reddit, after all. I think the determining factor there is that if you're getting bullied, you definitely shouldn't have to not be able to talk about it. I'm the kind of person who is open in that I'm willing to admit being a victim of abuse and I believe abusers' privacy shouldn't be protected. On the same token, I have to work with this person. I would love it if they would simply stop bullying me, but lord knows that's not going to happen.
FoxyOnTheRun_2 points2y ago
Heeey i must have missed the part where you were asking for advice about dealing with the person (which would be: document everything. don’t put anything in text that could be used against you. And then when making your case cite clear instances with the time, date, who else was on the floor, and what was said/happened to the best of your recollection). I thought this was a thread about how you made a social blunder and got called out about it. Was just trying to help you keep your foot out of your mouth while bidding your time. Hope things get better.
philosopher_cat_lady1 points2y ago
Actually, this post was supposed to be about how stupid Partner of the Quarter is but unfortunately it turned into an AITA
Elliotisnotokay3 points2y ago
That was really not okay. Even if you despise the other winner. You shouldn't have posted that. Message the other person in private. What you did was juvenile. And leads me to believe you're the one in the wrong
philosopher_cat_lady-3 points2y ago
I can see why it would appear that way, but I'm not the one in the wrong. And I'm starting to realize that my message was a cry for help which management responded to with: 'Don't cry for help. Suck it up.' I once literally told that shift supervisor that the partner was verbally abusing me and that I wanted to go home.
NotyourangeLbabe5 points2y ago
I think it’s little bit of a stretch to say managements response was “suck it up”. While you may be interpreting what you did as a cry for help, that does not negate the fact that it was rude and in appropriate behavior. Your supervisor wasn’t shutting down an explicit request for help, they were shutting down childish behavior. Childish behavior that could be perceived as a way to embarrass or diminish another partner in front of their peers. As backwards and ironic as it may feel, what you did could easily be construed as a form of bullying. I get that you feel you have been wrongly treated by this person, but there is no way you can twist this situation to make what you did okay. You let your feelings get the best of you, it happens to all of us. Like you said in another comment, you seem to be the only one she picks on. What you shouldn’t be doing is making an ass of yourself In front of the people you need on your side. Unfortunately, doing this in the group chat definitely made you look like the problem and an instigator.
philosopher_cat_lady0 points2y ago
Also, the irony of the fact that I did a wrong because of a wrong also applies to my shift supervisor who chastised me in the group chat.
NotyourangeLbabe2 points2y ago
You are fixated on placing the blame on everyone but yourself. You want everyone to take accountability for their misdoings but you refuse to do so yourself. Also, you’ve worked there for over a year and don’t know how to make a cappuccino?? Hun, that is completely on you. I don’t know how you could possibly work for the company for that long and do not know to make one of the core beverages. You seem to have a real victim mindset here. Maybe it’s just time to find a new job.
philosopher_cat_lady0 points2y ago
But they're already not on my side. Maybe I just wanted to be an asshole about that fact. I do see how I look like the bad guy to any of my coworkers who are unaware of the details of the situation, but either I look like a bad guy because the partner never bullies them or the partner does bully them and they know I'm not a bad guy. Either scenario is a good one in my book. The other thing about my job is I already feel completely not respected. I've worked at my store for one year and three months and am put on drive-thru everyday. I'm so inexperienced at bar that I do not know how to make a cappuccino. I beg for bar time and am refused it. I'm ready to transfer to another store.
Elliotisnotokay3 points2y ago
It wasnt a cry for help. It was petty and rude. No wonder they want you to cut your hours. Maybe the partner is rude to you bc you arent a nice person to work with
philosopher_cat_lady0 points2y ago
I'm sure she considers me not a nice person to work with. After all, the very first time she ever got bothered by me was when I was on DTR and she was on DTO and I told her I needed a cheese danish. My customer had just ordered one at the window. She shook her head and said, "'May I please HAVE a cheese danish?'" in a corrective tone. Then she stood there, refusing to get it for me.
Elliotisnotokay2 points2y ago
Manners are important
lilluuvv1 points2y ago
Although it does make it apparent you were not willing to congratulate Partner B I don't think you were necessarily wrong for only congratulating Partner A. The best decision would have been to just like the message (if possible) or just send a simple "Congrats!". However, I do completely understand your situation with Partner B and just wanting to avoid all communication with them in all possible aspects so again; I understand why you sent the message you did. Finally, your shift was completely in the wrong if they are aware of the high tension between you and Partner B. They should have been more professional and messaged you privately or spoken to you in person, not attempt to reprimand you in the group chat.
philosopher_cat_lady2 points2y ago
The original purpose of the group chat (which I believe was created by that shift supervisor) was for shift swapping. I'm not really interested in shift swapping, so I ended up uninstalling the app. I didn't feel safe communicating in it anymore; I'm sure I was safe to ask for a shift swap, but like I said I almost never feel the need to ask for one. I just feel like I can't personally handle this type of situation, and I've asked my manager for a transfer.
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