Starbucks Baristas: The daily grind
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Narcan (self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by ConroyWest
I brought up the idea of keeping narcan on hand since we have a ton of people coming in to use the bathroom... and I did not get a great response from the other people on my shift. Palpable judgement for talking about the possibility of an od in our bathroom. Smh knowing/caring about harm reduction does not mean i touch the stuff.
violetskies7 34 points 2y ago
it would have to be something you/your coworkers pay for yourself. the store would not fund that. even then- starbucks would probably not allow it to be kept in store. there are probably liability issues with employees giving medication to people while representing the company.
ConroyWest [OP] 8 points 2y ago
Yeah I realize you are right.
Tall_Draw_521 6 points 2y ago
The public health department might fund it. Have you talked to anyone about their harm reduction plans?
Afav1984 1 points 2y ago
Narcan is free at most pharmacies you can also get it at the police station. Nobody would have to pay for it.
violetskies7 1 points 2y ago
gotcha. thanks i didn’t really know what it was
LindaFromAccounting_ 20 points 2y ago
you can take the narcan training and they'll give you some that you can carry around to work. doesn't have to be implemented by starbucks, if you feel really strongly about it you should definitely take the initiative. sounds like it could really help someone someday
ConroyWest [OP] 7 points 2y ago
Ooh i'm gonna do that!
particularBillarina 12 points 2y ago
I’m actually not opposed to having Narcan readily available anywhere honestly but I also don’t think a drug addict deserves to die for their bad choices and addiction issues. That being said read the room and also my retail job told me I’d be fired if I even administered an epi pen to a visibly dying customer because it’s not allowed so As a former Starbucks barista I can
Guarantee narcan falls under that same liability umbrella. The exception being if you are a medical professional and are legally obligated to assist.
Guarantee narcan falls under that same liability umbrella. The exception being if you are a medical professional and are legally obligated to assist.
ShannyES 4 points 2y ago
Does anyone know... would Narcan fall under the Good Samaritan law? Like CPR? If you’re trained you’re expected to assist and the GS law protects you from retaliation.
Lavender-Sage 5 points 2y ago
It should. Any treatment given by a lay-person in good faith should be covered and I know that many people carry Narcan just in case. Honestly, I'd love to see Narcan in more places.
Afav1984 2 points 2y ago
The other thing you could always do the scary it on your person or keep it in your bag or backpack then if an emergency arises you would be prepared
Afav1984 2 points 2y ago
You're very smart to think of this, any business with a public restroom should absolutely have Narcan on hand. And to be honest Starbucks corporate should have already considered this. I'm in Massachusetts I'm pretty sure every dunks in the state has it behind their counter. Sad but it is what it is it's reality. You should ask your co-workers what they would do if somebody was in the bathroom blue from a heroin overdose.
Professor_Squirrell 1 points 2y ago
This doesn’t have to be a Starbucks initiative.
You are a solid one for considering the lives of others. Go to $1 and click the button that you can not get Narcan in your area (too expensive, etc. doesn’t matter the reason). You will be prompted to watch an eight minute video and Next will mail you Narcan at NO COST.
Keep it on you in your bag. That way, no matter where you are (being the awesome person you are) you will be prepared to help someone should they need it.
You are a solid one for considering the lives of others. Go to $1 and click the button that you can not get Narcan in your area (too expensive, etc. doesn’t matter the reason). You will be prompted to watch an eight minute video and Next will mail you Narcan at NO COST.
Keep it on you in your bag. That way, no matter where you are (being the awesome person you are) you will be prepared to help someone should they need it.
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whitemystery1204 -2 points 2y ago
That sucks; our bathrooms have been (thankfully) closed to due covid.
Not sure why it’s your responsibility to revive a junkie, but that’s very kind of you. I live in OC though so we don’t have a culture of people shooting up in our bathrooms (we replace junkies with Karens) so maybe people in your community feel a higher responsibility to aid drug users that give zero fucks about public decency and get high in a food establishment
Not sure why it’s your responsibility to revive a junkie, but that’s very kind of you. I live in OC though so we don’t have a culture of people shooting up in our bathrooms (we replace junkies with Karens) so maybe people in your community feel a higher responsibility to aid drug users that give zero fucks about public decency and get high in a food establishment
dudekaylasucks 3 points 2y ago
That makes so much sense because this comment reads like it came directly from Karenville.
whitemystery1204 0 points 2y ago
Not sure how wanting people to treat our stores with respect qualifies as being from “Karenville,” but ok.
ConroyWest [OP] 2 points 2y ago
Probably your passive judgement that these ppl are indecent. you also make it seem like they choose public wcs for fun instead of not having any choice
whitemystery1204 0 points 2y ago
The people themselves are not indecent, but choosing to use illicit drugs in a restaurant bathroom, making the employees clean up blood, syringes, etc. (or having to haul a sanitation team in to do it) is extremely indecent.
I also don’t see how “having nowhere else to go” is an excuse for abusing The Third Place. Your argument is that they’re addicted, so we should have sympathy and let them shoot up in our bathrooms, no questions asked. I don’t think that kind of thinking helps anyone.
I also don’t see how “having nowhere else to go” is an excuse for abusing The Third Place. Your argument is that they’re addicted, so we should have sympathy and let them shoot up in our bathrooms, no questions asked. I don’t think that kind of thinking helps anyone.
desairologist -14 points 2y ago
If this was publicized, it would be a PR nightmare for Starbucks, plus people would take advantage of it. Also, bringing up crackheads overdosing and giving them a free out is probably not a good idea at work. Yes Narcan can save a life, but that’s not our responsibility nor is it our duty to care for people who choose to shoot up and kill themselves in our vicinity. Starbucks would also not want to encourage any more media shitstorms that would come from entertaining the idea of having to train us in drug harm reduction. Many also would not want to participate, especially considering many people would disagree and not want to sponsor free medical care for druggies shooting up.
cammypearls 18 points 2y ago
That’s a very judgmental response to be honest - they aren’t crackheads, they are people suffering from addiction. Yes I agree it would come out as a PR nightmare but I’d sleep better at night knowing I have the tools to help reverse an overdose - something I was taught and trained to do outside of Sbux. There’s many pros and cons, and this is something each store manager should consider and discuss. I work at a starbucks that is right outside where the homeless stay, and I would absolutely carry Narcan (I actually have some and never crossed my mind to have it at work). Everyone has the right to live, and your judgement is incredibly flawed and quite disgusting.
whitemystery1204 1 points 2y ago
Isn’t a crackhead someone suffering from an addiction to crack?
cammypearls 3 points 2y ago
“crackhead” is a derogatory, nasty term for someone dealing with addiction. don’t be dense.
desairologist -2 points 2y ago
There’s just no reason to expose us to even more danger everyday than we already are. Call it judgmental, call it what you want, but why would Starbucks want to expose us to even more dangerous situations beyond the scope of everything else going on. I also work in funeral service, I see every single day what addiction does to people and the staggering number of people that die from addiction. It’s not pretty, and it’s not something most people want to address. I grew up in a very large metropolitan area with one of the highest drug rates in the country before Narcan was widely available, so I understand the value of it. If I wanted to “save lives” I would be a first responder, not a barista in mortuary science.
dudekaylasucks 1 points 2y ago
What? You aren't going to see a sudden uptick in overdoses that you don't already see just because you start carrying narcan. It is there for when someone is in a dire situation. You wouldn't suddenly be narcan-ing people left and right.
Tall_Draw_521 6 points 2y ago
dudekaylasucks 3 points 2y ago
Narcan does not revive cracks overdoses. Educate yourself before posting nonsense. I feel like I say this way too many times to ignorant people, but I really hope addiction isn't something you or a loved one ever goes through. Your lack of empathy for your fellow human beings, inability to understand nuance, and see past your biases and experience is baffling. Stay safe out there.
jawil723 -12 points 2y ago
I would prefer to give away insulin than Narcan......
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