If we don't "need" a union because you're already giving us a fair deal, why would you be worried about us unionizing? Maybe it's because you might not actually be giving us what were worth? 🧐

Even just having union representation would improve working conditions. Tho my preference is for a militant union that's not afraid to take direct action whenever there are grievances. And liberally strike for better conditions. So I'm obviously not a fan of contracts no strike clauses or any labor peace lol. My philosophy is if our bosses can punish us whenever they want, we should hit them where it hurts as much as we can.

One of the biggest problem I found is that conditions are based on SM and DM. So discrimination is really easy for management to sweep under the rug with write ups and bullying people out. A good contract would have progressive discipline be necessary where the burden of proof is on management. So, you can't have a bs write up where the manager says they "saw something" that didn't even happen and then it's used against you in later discipline.

Weingarten rights (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weingarten_Rights) are also really helpful when management attempts to discipline workers since you get backup from the union and makes management think twice about fucking with someone. Obv you can do that by yourself, and i definitely have to try to build a culture of solidarity. But it's not legally protected to have another worker be a witness in non union shops. which means that you can be wrote up or fired for that if you go too hard.

Sbucks saying there's no need for a union kind of confirms that one should be explored. Never trust a corporate entity to protect the interests of the workers.

Any company that has an official statement ready to go about how “there’s no need for you guys to unionize” is indirectly admitting that they’re aware of the situation in their stores and that a union is needed.

All of the benefits could be abolished at the drop of a dime without a union. Even with the benefits, it doesn’t account for unlivable wages and not having a say in decisions that affect us. We should definitely have one, and at this point it’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of how.

I would absolutely love a union. One of our biggest obstacles is that I think a lot of baristas are conditioned to like the company because of benefits. A lot of them mistake these benefits and think that the corporation actually cares about us. Yet, we’re all risking our lives to make the big bosses richer in this pandemic and corporate Starbucks isn’t going back to in person work until Fall. How can they really care about us?

No need to union. Talk to your managers if you have an issue. You also know you have to pay to be in a union so what’s the point of paying more money when you’re complaining about not getting paid enough?