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Starbucks Baristas: The daily grind

Full History - 2021 - 05 - 04 - ID#n4kvau
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Unpopular Opinion (self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by _Pulltab_
I feel like the complaining about customer orders is getting out of hand. Do I roll my eyes when I get a 3 inch sticker at 6am and have to try to decipher it? Sure. But as a group we’ve collectively become so whiny about customer orders, and it’s become so well-publicized on various platforms, that’s it’s starting to make us look like whiny bitches. It’s going to alienate customers - the last thing we want.

Hot takes: we get paid the same whether we’re making an iced chai or a 9-step Frappuccino. The cost of no ice drinks don’t come out of our paychecks. If someone wants a super-sugary drink with 7 different syrups that’s between them and their doctor.

Customers: just be kind. Treat us with dignity and respect. Recognize that we work hard to provide you with what you’re asking for, and order whatever you want
FfierceLaw 51 points 2y ago
It's not that simple if you care about out the window times or connection scores. Even if you don't, your bosses do (because the company is cutting labor when these measures are bad.) Busy customers who order one drink off the menu (standard build,) maybe one food item, wait longer when the customer ahead of them orders one or more byzantine drinks that a stressed barista must figure out. Even the POS process takes longer in the cafe or DTO when you deal with one of these beverage hedonist/adventurers. This "reasonable customer" who orders one or two drinks off the menu (there, I said it) then becomes resentful and less connectable, I have seen it happen. I wish we could maintain an express line for that customer, who orders standard builds off the menu. For the purposes of my post, I include decaf/blonde and alt milk in "standard build."
_Pulltab_ [OP] -6 points 2y ago
You raise a good point about service times and connection. I’m not saying I think it’s awesome when we have to read a novel to prepare a drink. I’m more referring to the Tik Tok, Reddit, Twitter shaming that goes on with more and more regularity and gets picked up by clickbait groups. The whole reason I posted this is because an article about Edward’s CRCF that’s been making the rounds landed on my news feed homepage as an article about how not to piss off your Starbucks barista. I don’t think that’s the kind of press we (as partners) want or need.

Edit: word
FfierceLaw 20 points 2y ago
But look at the Philly cheesesteak guys or the comic Soup Nazi (Seinfeld if you didn't know) who command respect at the POS and enjoy great popularity. The ridiculous drinks could eventually erode the brand, IMHO. As a brand I wish the leaders would try measures to garner more respect by imposing reasonable limits. Limiting mods on mobile was a step in the right direction. But if a customer is too embarrassed to order a wasteful, ridiculous drink, I have no problem with that. The early Sbux mystique was about respect for a level of expertise and excellence. You thought that Sbux had something to teach you about coffee, help you develop your taste. But lately it's just become a garish splash park
The_Septic_Shock 7 points 2y ago
Couldn't have said it better, sbux has lost itself in the billions
I_prefer_naps 35 points 2y ago
I mean this in the most non condescending way possible. Have you thought about taking a break from the Starbucks themed social media/propaganda/news.
I did this myself because I'd read complaints, then take them to work with me... if that makes sense. Like anticipate my customers to be the Karen's I see on this sub. But after a few days I realized I was just extra cynical at work. So I gave myself some time off from this sub.

I realize that's not your complaint, but this is a platform that is dedicated to baristas, their support and their rants. Someone probably posts a post like this once a week. Just as someone will always complain about work, even if you don't think its a big deal...

At the end of the day, corporate Starbucks makes their money, customers will order drinks(let's face it, if a pandemic won't deter them, a random post or article sure as hell won't either), social media will put out modified drinks, workers will complain about work. But if it's getting to a point where it's getting to you, you can take a break from it.
jessstress 29 points 2y ago
Ok, but customers aren't getting nicer since the pandemic hit. They're getting more demanding, short-tempered and plain rude (obviously not all customers). Baristas are never going to stop blowing off steam and complaining about over-the-top drinks is one way we do it.

We're human we need to vent. And as long as number one and number two on that "How not to annoy your barista" list is 1. Treat them like fucking humans and 2. Tell them the fucking drink size so they don't have to ask 50 times, I don't care.

If corporate has a problem with how this reflects on the company, they could try backing up baristas against abusive customers and fixing the app to prevent them from putting drinks in smaller cups, or ordering a no foam cappuccino.
BeardiesRule112 25 points 2y ago
I literally don’t care about alienating customers lmaooo
particularBillarina 20 points 2y ago
Like customers care at all
About how Starbucks or any service worker feels 😂 outside of the odd kind person anyway.
_Pulltab_ [OP] -17 points 2y ago
I mean, ok, but without customers you don’t have a job.
BeardiesRule112 7 points 2y ago
Worry about you
_Pulltab_ [OP] -10 points 2y ago
That’s exactly the point of my post. Lol
sdkid92 5 points 2y ago
No we had customers before this mess and made minimum wage then too. Stop downplaying the issues at hand here. Trending drinks, over modifications and corporate greed are making baristas leave in droves.
StormTheParade 15 points 2y ago
Every time this gets posted between here and the main sub, it's because people are looking solely at employee posts on social media.

Please remember that social media is often the only place where people get to vent freely, and is absolutely **not** representative of how employees are on the floor/on the clock.

If customers see this stuff and base their opinion around it, that's on them. Everybody and their nan complains up and down about their job everywhere, and knows that when *they* complain, that it isn't always an actual representation of how they feel about their job... so why would it be any different?
[deleted] 7 points 2y ago
exactly! i love my coworkers, and i do have a passion for coffee, i have fun and bring a good attitude when i'm at work. i wouldn't work here if i couldn't do that. but on the sub it is bashing stupid frap hours
bingethinker16 5 points 2y ago
Thank you! I feel the same way.

Everyone complains about their job. There are other professions that have subreddits and trust me they bitch about stuff just like this sub. That doesn't mean they're rude and demeaning while they're at work. It means they are frustrated and want to vent to others who understand.
yeeet-haw-baybee 12 points 2y ago
hey yeah so um, i don’t really have the energy to give a shit about the ✨customer experience✨ when my own experience is hot garbage. i’d be more apt to prioritize the customer if management would prioritize the wellbeing of the partner.
LaurdAlmighty 6 points 2y ago
Right I don’t get paid enough to be emotionally abused then garner empathy for people who mock me for my disabilities or make the teens on the floor cry.
sdkid92 12 points 2y ago
Found the person with the extra ass drink order 🙄
_Pulltab_ [OP] -3 points 2y ago
Nope. I’m a partner and usually just order shots of espresso or a cold brew. I just don’t get why people get so aggravated about making a drink. We literally get paid by the hour. Whether we make 100 americanos, 50 iced white mochas with sweet cream cold foam and extra caramel drizzle or 12 hoopie-ass Frappuccino’s with 15 steps each. And I get venting and I understand why it can be annoying but also I feel like we are creating this public image that we are a bunch of whiny employees who can’t be bothered by customers who are LITERALLY the reason we have a job.
[deleted] 2 points 2y ago
i understand your point, but honestly if corporate is bothered by our public image then they can show us some support, u know
59625962 12 points 2y ago
I make it my goal to alienate customers 🤣🤣🤣
rosesandthorns17 10 points 2y ago
“we get paid the same whether we’re making an iced chair or a 9-step frappuccino” exactly so i’m not keen to make a thousand complicated frappuccinos while getting yelled at ab drive times for less than a living wage. thank you for your time
[deleted] 7 points 2y ago
corporate isnt going to help us, i think the only thing that might make people stop is getting shamed lol. listen, if it was once in a while, maybe a couple times a day when there wasnt a line, fine. i'll make ur dumbass drink and i'll even ask you if it's good. it's the VOLUME of stupid drinks by people who dont even like coffee... it's eroding the brand and my patience, and i think we should be allowed to complain about it. it's borderline disrespectful.
sdkid92 3 points 2y ago
It’s really is disrespectful and inconsiderate towards others. Today I had so many quad shot drinks with tons of add ons back to back. Poor people that simply wanted iced coffees or plain coffee had to wait for an unreasonable amount of time. It’s getting absurd how these people are getting more complicated with their orders then bark at you if u don’t put enough milk or ice or drizzle. Sorry I missed a step, I can easily add it but we don’t need the attitude. I’m stressed, over worked and under paid I’m gonna miss a step here and there with the hundreds of drinks I’m cranking out.
bingethinker16 7 points 2y ago
Coming from a busy DT store, I think it's the emphasis on maintaining drive times while dealing with complex orders and being understaffed that creates added frustrations.

Frankly I think customers should think more about how their behaviors and unnecessary orders affect us. I don't see it as a bad thing... but if they want to assume I'm a bitch just because I'm a barista who experiences frustrations with work like everyone else..well that's on them. I will still make the drinks and be polite, but don't shame me if I want to vent about it later.
Mistakecupcake 7 points 2y ago
I feel like a lot of complaints are less about customers themselves, and more a lack of support for the change in way they order. We’re being staffed like every drink is an iced chai, but instead every drink is a 9 step vanilla sweet cream cold foam essay. Starbucks clearly knows that most drinks are being heavily modified now, but has only very recently put out an update for a standard on “light ice” of all things. They’re moving very slowly, if at all, to support baristas during some stressful changes and a lot of us would simply appreciate them being a little more supportive or transparent. Instead it feels like my workload has tripled, and there’s no visible changes being made down the road to make it more efficient or ease the tension.
TheDoubleDan 7 points 2y ago
So when I first joined the sub, a lot of the posts were pretty valid with ridiculous drinks, but recently I've been seeing a lot of complaining about drink orders that aren't even difficult. Like they just wanted to talk shit about someone ordering a blonde vanilla latte with 8 whole pumps of vanilla. I think venting is a healthy process but if you need to vent because someone ordered 2 extra pumps of syrup, I think its time to find another job...
sdkid92 1 points 2y ago
I think you’re down playing the issue here. I’m not seeing people complain about a few extra pumps. You’re not helping the situation by making light of barista complaints when we are getting bombarded with extra drizzle 4 different sweeteners and cold foam add ons and that’s not even the half of it. Thanks for perpetuating our hardships I hope no one does the same to you.
TheDoubleDan 0 points 2y ago
That's clearly NOT what I was talking about. And just because you haven't seen other complaining about drinks that aren't difficult doesn't mean it hasn't been happening. It really seems like you came here looking to get upset about something and chose my comment to lash out at without understanding anything I was saying. And also, if your job is such a hardship for you, I advise seeking employment somewhere else. Then maybe you won't come lurking Reddit in the hope of starting an argument. Not everybody shares this level of negativity and I honestly feel sorry for you. Thanks for proving my point.
80sserialkiller 5 points 2y ago
i am a whiny bitch it’s one of my few joys
Kind_Fox_951 1 points 2y ago
If only we lived in a world where our customers were understanding of our number of hands on deck as well as limited space… could you imagine?
FfierceLaw 1 points 2y ago
We need to laud and appreciate the customers who order from the menu with minimal mods, one drink with a bite to sustain them in their productive lives. They are our bread and butter. I want to please them with quality hand crafted beverages. I want to serve them quickly. I want to connect with them. I don't like it when catering orders that have been sweating on our counters or bizarro/trolling drinks make them have to wait. This is about appreciating the customers that the company was built on, lovers of coffee and tea. They don't treat us like a plaything, it's a relationship of mutual respect. The tiktok trollers do not respect us or our product.
awesomechief989 1 points 2y ago
I’m not 100% but when I think about it because the store is earning less money because we’re sometimes selling extra product for no fee wouldn’t that cut into the stores overall available hours? Might not be a lot and Starbucks still understaffs but I thought that could have a doing.
Guazabaron -8 points 2y ago
I’m with you. Not sure if the complainers have worked at any other service jobs. I assure, they are mostly worse in almost every thing you can measure. I’ve worked in Starbucks and other places long enough to know!

That being said, I understand complaining once in a while to let steam out.
RistrettoIsBae -7 points 2y ago
I second this. It is making us look terrible and is alienating customers.
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