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The above picture references something that is stained. Staining and dirty is not the same thing.

Don't worry I agree with you. Unless you have a dishwasher at work that is like the one at home, wash with soap first. Always been taught that in every single store I've worked that has had a "dishwasher".

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Just because there's still debris on the dishes doesn't mean it isn't. You've never seen a dishwasher run and there's still some food/debris on dishes?

And with things like pitchers, inclusion tubs, and mocha containers, we also need to scrub with soap if we see visible residue.

A quick spray and a trip to the Hobart won’t get it all off.

It's still standard to rinse things before putting them in the hobart, you just don't have to use soap anymore

It's not. It's an either or thing. You don't need to wash and sanitize the dishes twice. I've worked with a-holes who like to waste time by washing the dishes twice. It's super infuriating for me - but I'm dramatic. Some items can ONLY be hand washed though.

Its not. I prefer just the three sink, but if I don't want to fuss with sani water (shout-out to one barista that keeps yeeting used whips into the sani pit) I'll wash, rinse, Hobart.

For me, the Hobart like, dries it for me too lol gives it a more clean/finished feeling

That is nonsense. You did the right thing. Dishes shouldn't NEED a "deep clean" if they are cleaned properly the first time anyway.

Same. I also don't like using the Hobart because my glasses fog up and the metal items get too hot

I litterally got an update on the store from papers that we are supposed to let the Hobart do all the work. I'm shocked Starbucks chose to walk away from the industry standard. I spent so many years doing it the right way (soap rinse and sanitize) that I was shocked to see this change.

We’ve had the same Hobart for at least 6 years and I remember being told “this is NOT a dishwasher; you must wash before using” … but now it is magically a dishwasher. It hasn’t changed at all, and it’s always been connected to the yellow Hobart detergent. But it wasn’t until the summer training that we were allowed to even consider it a dishwasher.

The standard for dishes hasn’t changed in the nine years I’ve been with the company. It’s in the store cleanliness and equipment maintenance manual. Remove 3D debris, then put in Hobart. The only difference between types of machines are how they sanitize. Some sanitize with chlorine, others with heat. Both of them use the exact same soap and have the same wash cycle. The update didn’t change anything, they’re reminding partners how to use the equipment that’s in every store.

I agree, but I use to work for EcoLab and any decent dishwasher should be able to knock something as simple as coffee beans off a plastic surface.

That's one of the reasons I pre-soak or thoroughly spray before putting anything into the "dishwasher".

I’m right there with you honestly. Lol I get mad when I see it looking a mess and even if I am a messy barista (Other partners just know when I’m on bar because things are a little chaotic looking lol but I try my best ;__;) that being said I clean up after myself, keep things stocked, updated and whenever I have a moment I’m checking on dishes cause fuck that. I like doing whips because I know they’ll be charged right and sweet creams get done best when I do them. Not bragging it’s just I know I put my everything in everything I do and I can see the exhaustion in my partners faces so if I can take away from their struggle I will. But also for the partners who could give a shit less I’m not about to let them do something that requires an extra minute to do the right way.

It’s both for the ones who work too hard because others choose not to and because I take pride in what I do. No matter what it is I’m doing.

“clean play” but just sending me loose with a scrubber and getting out of my damn way 😂

I've found the best way is let hot soapy water sit in them, dump it out after a little, and put it in the Hobart. I always check them after I take them out though JUST to be sure but I've still found mocha crusted to the insides of "clean" containers.

Literally the reason for the 3 separate pictures. I rinsed out the ice coffee till it was clear water then I scrubbed the inside. The water turned brown again. So glad I'm not the only one that finds this disgusting.

Mainly just making a joke abt the wording in the training, you’re totally right!

no I’m saying you can’t expect any dish washer to clean caked on food. The Hobart is a dishwasher. Also right after you make mocha soak it in water, don’t let it harden until you clean it! That’ll really help to prevent any difficulty cleaning:)