Today was kind of a mess as 3 of my peak partners were borrowed from another store (lovely people, worked great, just stressful trying to run a floor without knowing them, their strengths/areas for improvement, etc.)
I was a closing shift for two years and moved to mornings a few months ago. I work 40+ hours in the mornings every week.
Anyway, it was about 10 AM so the middle of peak for us on a Sunday and this girl pulls up to the drive thru and orders her drink, but says “i need you to not make it until i’m at the window.” to which my DTO partner looked at me confused.
I told her no, we can’t do that, that’s not how this works and we’re in the middle of peak which my partner relayed to the customer in the most customer service-esque way possible.
The customer then got an attitude, saying “seriously? They do it for me all the time why can’t you just make my drink how I want” then proceeded to say that she didn’t want the drink then and sped off.
Literally less than a minute later the store phone rings and I knew immediately it would be her. I answered my usual way and she asks for a manager and I tell her I’m the shift lead at the moment and she relays the event to me, saying it was horrible customer service.
I explained to her nicely and as clearly as possible the reasons we won’t wait for her to get to the window before beginning her drink:
1) That’s not how a drive thru works. the point of a drive thru is speed, we’re timed and expected to get every car in and out of line in a matter of seconds.
2) She was in a line with 4 cars ahead of her, and a consistent line behind. It would be about 2 minutes before she got to the window (our times weren’t great.... we’re so understaffed) which the cars behind her would also have to wait. if i took the extra minute to make her drink at the window, that would add on to the wait time of everyone else behind her.
3) Bar partners work in sequence. It’s the only way to keep things moving smoothly, it’s the way we’re trained to do things, it’s COMPANY STANDARD. I can’t ring your order through, pull it off to the side, interrupting sequence and setting other orders back even more just for you.
I couldn’t give her special treatment at the cost of my stores efficiency and other people’s time, and i explained that to her pretty thoroughly. I even offered the alternative- come inside to order to ensure you get your drink as soon as it’s ready (I assume she wanted it as fresh as possible??)
But she wasn’t having any of it. She went on to tell me that my sole job is to make the customer happy no matter what. She also claimed that she orders it this way at my store every morning and has never been refused before but i’ve never seen her before, nor had either of the two openers i work with multiple times a week who were also there. I work 5-130 5 days a week and this was the first time i had ever heard it.
“as a manager this is your job it’s your job to remember the customer is always right.” Not when it goes against standard. Not when i’m being yelled at. Not when i’m being told my job description by anyone other than the person who employed me.
After explaining it all again, apologizing (as insincerely sincere as possible), and once again offering the alternative, she cut me off again to say she was at the window and demanded that i go make her drink immediately and give it to her.
This caused more confusion and totally threw off the rest of the baristas since she said earlier she didn’t want anything and drove away from the speaker box.
Ultimately it just amounted to more yelling at us and arguing and our next car having to wait 6 minutes before reaching the window.
Super inconvenient and a huge setback, but i, being a person i am, can’t help but wonder if i was in the wrong at all. I apologized, explained, and offered an alternative because i’m so tired of people thinking they deserve special treatment and being so entitled, ESPECIALLY when it interferes with the business and other customers experiences.
Please let me know what y’all think, i’ve been a SSV for two and a half years and have gone through hell and back with the company but am still super hard on myself when it comes to this kind of stuff.
SunBusiness8291159 points1y ago
She's an animal.
IfuDidntCome2Party9 points1y ago
I would have told her to come-in to order, if it's too complicated to order at the DT box.
What was the special order?
Markedsoultheif142 points1y ago
The whole thing about “the customer is always right” pertains to their tastes. Meaning things like style and other things of that matter. It doesn’t mean we bend over backwards and let them walk all over us. It literally means if s customer likes an ugly piece of clothing, it’s not our place as a retailer to tell them it’s ugly.
FfierceLaw123 points1y ago
1. She's a liar. If she had been getting away with this at your store you would have known. 2. She's wrong. Customers do not tell us how to run our stores. They order the beverage they want, that is where they get to be "right." 3. She disrupted the Third Place for you and your partners and other customers. 4. She's a stalker, the way she went through your line twice and called you on her second trip through the line (how did she get past the speaker sign? Did she cut the line too, adding to her list of transgressions?) 5. I hope your SM has a spine and supports you if this happens again. Your whole store needs to agree NOT to accommodate her ridiculous request
shiftyclub [OP]39 points1y ago
She was only in the line once, said at the box she didn’t want anything and drove up in line around the corner to demand it at the window :/
cringeqween1333 points1y ago
I would've told her with a smile under my mask at the window "im sorry ma'am but I can't ring up your drink on my till, you're welcome to come inside or place your order at the speaker box"
givemeapples15 points1y ago
I wouldve told her of course I'll take your order! Please pull up ahead and we will take out your drinks when they are ready! And then purposefully wait 10 minutes to walk it out after her 5 frappuccinos have finished melting....
cringeqween133 points1y ago
Sadly my store never has enough partners schedule let alone showing up to have someone run orders out
FfierceLaw9 points1y ago
Oh sorry, for some reason I thought that while she was on the phone with you after you told her no, she reappeared at your window for a second time, which gave me stalker vibes
existenaliens27 points1y ago
Also, someone who behaves as terribly as this is probably accustomed to getting their way. Was probably expecting a lengthy apology AND a free beverage. Wanted their ass kissed and threw a little tantrum. Mistreating employees is their norm.
[deleted]51 points1y ago
I would’ve lost my job. What the actual fuck? I cant anymore. The entitlement that has been created by “making the moment right” is atrocious. I refuse to make the moment right anymore, especially with situations like this. Call corporate, I don’t give two flying shits anymore.
Lamlot50 points1y ago
I had a guest a long time ago (2006-2008) who asked if I could make her young child’s hot chocolate with her own breast milk. I said absolutely no but she claimed another Starbucks did.
I never felt so gross.
reclusivegiraffe16 points1y ago
that... what the fuck??? i cant. O-o
megs128815 points1y ago
That would legit get a store shut down if the health department found out. Completely unsanitary, especially with the infectious diseases that can be transmitted
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is_it_soy9 points1y ago
“Drinks can only be made with the ingredients provided by Starbucks. Sorry not sorry!”
keylimerose6 points1y ago
jesus 😭
Kyde_Drakes21 points1y ago
Someone yells at me or my baristas they get the window closed on them and they can leave. We can refuse service. The customer is not always right, and I’m not sorry, because you as a customer came to me as a worker for a service. Ya better be fucking polite.
thepoopbathroom21 points1y ago
I would’ve done the same thing. My SM would’ve probably done it her way because she is very pro-customer, but I don’t think you were in the wrong at all. And you probably handled the situation a lot better than I would have. I just put my two weeks in and my customer interactions have not been the greatest
Edit: I accidentally said I wouldn’t have done the same thing as OP. I would have
ntsrhcyj19 points1y ago
You did everything absolutely right! Fuck that bitch 🙄
MrsClaireUnderwood18 points1y ago
I would have just said "okay sure" and then winked at my bar partner.
That's probably what they do at that 'other store'.
pittiepie12 points1y ago
This is absolutely what I would've done. How would she know? Just wait maybe an extra 15 seconds before handing it over rather than right away at the window. People as entitled and ridiculous as this are not worth arguing with if it's avoidable. It only wastes everyone's time and energy, and she'll be back the next day doing the exact same shit either way.
reclusivegiraffe5 points1y ago
yeah as long as the line moves fast enough she genuinely has no way of knowing
sammiipiie18 points1y ago
No you were absolutely in the right. She sounds like an entitled spoiled lil brat. I probably would have closed the window on her and let her get the message and then probably just comped everybody behind her for a while until the times were reasonable again. I’m so sick of bending over backwards for rude customers who think they get to have everything they want always. If she didn’t leave I would have made her drink as wrong as possible. Decaf and dead shots and way too much ice in it or like mostly water in her refresher etc in the hopes that she never ever returned to my store.
katelynn-jane14 points1y ago
HAHAHHAHA I would’ve ripped this woman to SHREDS. I’ve also been a SSV for two years and I’ve perfected making people feel like completely awful inconsiderate assholes while never breaking my customer service character to the point where they start apologizing to me AND my baristas. I don’t do it often but this situation absolutely would’ve brought that out of me. You handled it great, honestly better than a lot of people would’ve, she just lives in her own world where no one else matters and thats not your fault.
uwumoment9 points1y ago
the “emotionally manipulative to rude customer” ssvs are my favorite you guys make me feel so validated
katelynn-jane14 points1y ago
That’s why I am the way I am! I can’t stand people mistreating my baristas. Especially because I have a lot of minors, like y’all are really talking to kids like this ?? I just came back from a vacation yesterday and while I was gone a woman threatened to drag this sweet timid little green bean outside and beat her head against the curb over an incorrect drink and all of my baristas said they wished I was there because our new manager was on the floor and just gave the woman a free drink. That situation would’ve gone very differently if I was there lmfao.
sammiipiie7 points1y ago
Omg as a shift I am such a mama bear like Do Not Fuck with my baby baristas okay I told off some guy who SNAPPED HIS FINGERS at my dto/r one night to try to get his attention like NO SIR WE ARE NOT DOGS USE YOUR WORDS
katelynn-jane6 points1y ago
That’s so me!! I swear whenever I hear people raise their voice or I hear a foul attitude I drop what I’m doing and appear behind my baristas because they all know the second they’re done dealing with it they can just walk away and I’ll take over. Like I get paid more to deal with this shit, they work so hard for my shifts and I’m not about to let them get yelled at over coffee.
wildaloofrebel5511 points1y ago
I guarantee the “other store” just tells her they make it at the window for her. “Make it at the window” “Of absolute course!!!!!”
juiceyluicy11 points1y ago
I don’t understand how you could keep a clear head and continue to be kind to this person. I’ll be fair, I don’t think I’m good at customer service. But when people act like this to me I take it personally (rightfully so in most cases since they attack you personally) and I respond like I would if someone was like… harassing me in public or a bully at school. I hope the rest of your shift was better :/
Sdee12349 points1y ago
Interrupting the 3rd place environment of your other customers is always wrong. She is no more or less important than any other customer. End of story. I have been called and A$$ and a C@^$ for telling people that and I still have my job🤷♀️ she sounds like a piece of work
reclusivegiraffe6 points1y ago
we have a lady who likes us to wait till she gets to the window to put the whipped cream on her white mocha — which is totally reasonable and doesn’t interrupt the flow. she’s super nice too. but wow... that’s insane
uwumoment5 points1y ago
the way i honestly would have just been like “sure we can do that” and then just gave her the old drink. customers are too entitled you can have your minute old drink and enjoy it still
kqs134 points1y ago
I would have just said "sure" and made in in sequence anyway lol
GinaMohundro3 points1y ago
I think you went out of your way to meet her at her level even though she was completely unreasonable.
Well, she’s a monster and needs to come inside to order if she wants her drink fresh or if she wants to stare daggers into the barista making the drink (which I think is more likely).
I would also like to say that insincerely sincere is my new favorite phrase especially at work lol.
Also, if someone can’t be reasonable and keep their voice down and particularly if they start swearing, they can have a good day and GTFO. I will not tolerate abuse at all. Even with these potential raises coming, we don’t get paid enough for that.
[deleted]3 points1y ago
I would have denied her service.
is_it_soy3 points1y ago
As a proper human, you absolutely did the right thing. You remained courteous while also denying a grown child to throw a tantrum at your store.
As a wage slave, bad! You know the siren wants us to kiss the boots of every Karen so she always comes back!
[deleted]3 points1y ago
i used to work for starbucks and was a barista/SSV. since starbucks i’ve worked in other customer service jobs, which is one where i work now. i just wanna say, that’s fucking crazy. i haven’t read this sub much at all but this was in my home page. i promise you that the customer was wrong. and the company is wrong for not caring about you. i’m a manager now and i have all the authority to refuse service/call the police/do anything i deem necessary in a situation like that. i didn’t though, when i was at starbucks. in no world and in no situation is it okay for a customer to be disrespectful to a service worker. i’m so beyond dealing with people like that.
rest_aura_nt2 points1y ago
There's literally only so much you guys are capable of and only so much you should be doing. That level of entitlement is outrageous. The customer is always right means people want their drink the way they ordered it because they're paying for it. And that is fine as long as they're not a jerk about it! Whatever the hell she's asking for doesn't fit that bill. I feel like this fits in the category of disruption. And even if this fit "the customer is always right" in some way (which it doesn't) If you would've done what she asked it would've destroyed the "Starbucks experience" for all the other customers by forcing them to wait. Any way you slice it, just ludicrous. (I'm a brand new partner so im not like. An expert but I think this is all reasonable, correct me if im wrong lol)
philosopher_cat_lady2 points1y ago
She's wrong. We have to get rid of the "the customer's always right" motto because it's wrong. This issue you experienced is the same reason it's pointless to order a drink in the drive-thru in a personal cup. (We don't do that anymore because of COVID, but still.) If it's peak, at least, we make your drink in a disposable cup then pour it into your personal cup. You could have done that.
She's also one of those people who doesn't care she's wrong. She's a liar. She called you to fuss at you, and that's it. She doesn't want to learn anything. She doesn't care about you or other customers. She can get the fuck out with that.
relyhigh1 points1y ago
Honestly, as a SSV I try to avoid further conflict by doing what is asked even though it may be a set back then explain to the customer why their request is against company standard. And that next time order normally or come inside and order. That way she has her way but also it is known that it won’t happen again.
[deleted]1 points1y ago
I just say okay too ridiculous requests sometimes bc they literally do not even know. Only extremely weird ones like this
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