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Are partners who ride bicycles to work allowed to keep their bikes in the back if the store doesn't have a bike rack outside of it? (self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by boy_linda
I just bought a $999 ebike for my daily commute to work/around town and am nervous about it getting stolen (I'm from reno/sparks nv), but my store doesn't have a bike rack in front of it. the nearest bike rack is in front of a restaurant that just opened a few commercial spaces down, and while my manager says I should use it, the rack isn't visible from inside the starbucks. i have a sturdy lock and the employees at the restaurant come in for coffee a lot, so should I just let them know that the bike is mine and that if anyone who isn't me is tampering it that they should call the police or shoo them off? or should I express my concerns with my SM or with the DM? I have a sturdy lock and plan on getting a water bottle cage with a gps tracker, but if it can be prevented I'd like to keep it somewhere my coworkers and I can see it
mint_tea_at_midnight 9 points 1y ago
Congrats on the sweet bike!
My shifts let me store mine in the back on the occasion that I forget my lock or the weather is horrible.
I think it might just be a store-by-store thing…
I’d gently express your concerns (since they’re super reasonable!) and if that still doesn’t work, ask folks to keep an eye out. CS cleaning outside, people leaving or coming in for shifts etc. Not ideal but better than no safety net. Hope it works out :)
My shifts let me store mine in the back on the occasion that I forget my lock or the weather is horrible.
I think it might just be a store-by-store thing…
I’d gently express your concerns (since they’re super reasonable!) and if that still doesn’t work, ask folks to keep an eye out. CS cleaning outside, people leaving or coming in for shifts etc. Not ideal but better than no safety net. Hope it works out :)
boy_linda [OP] 3 points 1y ago
thanks, I'm very excited to start riding it!! my SM is super strict on enforcing policies and rules to the point of stupid so my only concern is that the policy will say "no bikes in stores no matter what", she'll adamantly stick to her guns, make me put my bike somewhere I can't see it, and it gets stolen. idk if I'd even be able to file a lawsuit against them for it, although I know it's be a lost cause unless I insure my bike and get as much protection on it as possible
lewabwee 2 points 1y ago
My store manager put her bike in our store more than once but she’s an outside hire who doesn’t know anything about the rules so I guess it could go either way? Our dm has been here when her bike is here and hasn’t said anything though.
boy_linda [OP] 1 points 1y ago
yeah idk from asking here it sounds like a case-by-case thing that depends on the store's size, how strict your sm/dm are about certain policies, how biased they are against homeless people or cyclists (despite starbucks's 2018 policy where you don't have to buy anything in order to stay in the store). I'll just ask my SM or check the hub tomorrow when I go in w my bike
daggerdangerxx 3 points 1y ago
I used to keep mine in the back no problem and that was in a tiny city Starbucks but we made it work since it’s Philadelphia and a rough crowd they were understanding. I feel like you should be able to keep it in the back especially if you need it to get to work.
esaeklsg 2 points 1y ago
I've had baristas who kept bikes in the back as a temporary thing. I'd be a little miffed if it was a "forever" thing. They take up a lot of space. But ymmv depending on size of backroom. I definitely ran into / snagged things on one of them / knocked it over once or thrice.
I don't know what I'd do in your case. I'd be concerned about leaving a bike that expensive out, but idk your area. But honestly if you're going to have a bike it feels like you've already made the decision to be comfortable with that risk to some extent. I don't imagine your SM or DM can/will do anything besides yay/nay the backroom thing. Personally I'd feel awkward asking the restaurant workers to take any responsibility over your bike.
I don't know what I'd do in your case. I'd be concerned about leaving a bike that expensive out, but idk your area. But honestly if you're going to have a bike it feels like you've already made the decision to be comfortable with that risk to some extent. I don't imagine your SM or DM can/will do anything besides yay/nay the backroom thing. Personally I'd feel awkward asking the restaurant workers to take any responsibility over your bike.
boy_linda [OP] 2 points 1y ago
right, and I wouldn't want it to be a forever thing either especially because the way into the backroom and the backroom itself aren't the roomiest. and I doubt my SM/DM wants to send customers the idea that they can bring their bikes willy nilly (understandable). I'm comfortable with locking it outside on the condition that it's visible from where I work, since we have large windows that make it easy to see the patio, but when I brought it up to my SM she was like "the folks at the restaurant would keep an eye out for you :)" which to me sounds entitled. but there's a gps bike tracker/alarm I want to get but can't afford until my next paycheck so I'm hoping she'll be more understanding
Cr9107 1 points 1y ago
***page 81 @ Reno, NV zoning ordinance***
https://www.reno.gov/home/showdocument?id=82761
Off street parking = Parking lot
Job is required for parking
***minimum of 2 space-rack, or 5% total***
complete maximum of 50 dedicated places for bicycles.
https://www.reno.gov/home/showdocument?id=82761
Off street parking = Parking lot
Job is required for parking
***minimum of 2 space-rack, or 5% total***
complete maximum of 50 dedicated places for bicycles.
esaeklsg 1 points 1y ago
If this is in a shopping plaza or something, I would assume the bike rack in front of the restaurant fills the requirement (or at least partial). OP specifically wants a bike rack visible from Starbucks, which I doubt is a legal requirement anywhere.
Cr9107 1 points 1y ago
Drive thru usually have a parking lot.
If so, property owner. NEEDS TO INSTALL RACKS. placement is questionable. Usually due to size/look it's placed "out of sight" in worst possible location.
***MID-BLOCK, only street meters...***
Small bike rack is optional
https://www.madrax.com/triton-bike-rack-tri
https://parkwarehouse.com/product-category/bike-racks/bollard-post-bike-racks/
https://www.theparkcatalog.com/u-shaped-bike-racks?utm_term=buy%20bike%20racks&utm_campaign=SEM+-+Bike+Racks&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=8003768090&hsa_cam=17339233&hsa_grp=3713310733&hsa_ad=227049662300&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-2743258644&hsa_kw=buy%20bike%20racks&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI08G0p-fP8gIVBqbICh2BPwBHEAAYASAFEgIwVvD_BwE
OTHER OPTION is rack achored to walk
https://parkwarehouse.com/product/ultra-space-saver-single-wall-mount-dero/?attribute_pa_coating-finish=powder-coated&attribute_pa_tube-style=square-tube&attribute_pa_554-color-finish=bronze&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqt_zj-nP8gIVw9SzCh0APAvnEAQYASABEgLx1fD_BwE
_____
***Stores***
Placed within furthest handicap parking. Preferred within 20' of main doors.
Optional if no parking lot. Can't block pedestrian right-of-way. Maintain 30" walkway.
_____
***Shopping plaza/STRIP***
SPACED EVENLY throughout.
10 stores = 3 racks = both end and middle
U-style
Ballard rack
_____
***Shopping mall***
At all entrances.
Mall entrance, all levels
Anchor stores (JCP, BONTON, sears...)
2 main entrances, + 3 anchor stores = minimum of 5 locations.
***Then MINIMAL OF 5% TOTAL PARKING. FOCUSED @ MAIN ENTRANCES***
Full size bike racks.
https://www.madrax.com/triton-bike-rack-tri
Endless loops (grid style damages wheels)
_____
_____
Actually inside of store = NO-GO. Not even dry stock. (Only plausible location is inside of "dumpster corral" if enclosed, near recycling NOT TRASH.
Electric bike= fire hazard = battery. Water, bumps... Unwanted attention. "Thefts"
Food service @ cross contamination. Fire hazard. Blocking pathways...
If so, property owner. NEEDS TO INSTALL RACKS. placement is questionable. Usually due to size/look it's placed "out of sight" in worst possible location.
***MID-BLOCK, only street meters...***
Small bike rack is optional
https://www.madrax.com/triton-bike-rack-tri
https://parkwarehouse.com/product-category/bike-racks/bollard-post-bike-racks/
https://www.theparkcatalog.com/u-shaped-bike-racks?utm_term=buy%20bike%20racks&utm_campaign=SEM+-+Bike+Racks&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=8003768090&hsa_cam=17339233&hsa_grp=3713310733&hsa_ad=227049662300&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-2743258644&hsa_kw=buy%20bike%20racks&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI08G0p-fP8gIVBqbICh2BPwBHEAAYASAFEgIwVvD_BwE
OTHER OPTION is rack achored to walk
https://parkwarehouse.com/product/ultra-space-saver-single-wall-mount-dero/?attribute_pa_coating-finish=powder-coated&attribute_pa_tube-style=square-tube&attribute_pa_554-color-finish=bronze&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqt_zj-nP8gIVw9SzCh0APAvnEAQYASABEgLx1fD_BwE
_____
***Stores***
Placed within furthest handicap parking. Preferred within 20' of main doors.
Optional if no parking lot. Can't block pedestrian right-of-way. Maintain 30" walkway.
_____
***Shopping plaza/STRIP***
SPACED EVENLY throughout.
10 stores = 3 racks = both end and middle
U-style
Ballard rack
_____
***Shopping mall***
At all entrances.
Mall entrance, all levels
Anchor stores (JCP, BONTON, sears...)
2 main entrances, + 3 anchor stores = minimum of 5 locations.
***Then MINIMAL OF 5% TOTAL PARKING. FOCUSED @ MAIN ENTRANCES***
Full size bike racks.
https://www.madrax.com/triton-bike-rack-tri
Endless loops (grid style damages wheels)
_____
_____
Actually inside of store = NO-GO. Not even dry stock. (Only plausible location is inside of "dumpster corral" if enclosed, near recycling NOT TRASH.
Electric bike= fire hazard = battery. Water, bumps... Unwanted attention. "Thefts"
Food service @ cross contamination. Fire hazard. Blocking pathways...
HamiltonPolka 2 points 1y ago
You can probably look up the policy about bikes on The Hub. It could be a space issue though, some of the stores I worked at would not have had room for a bike in the backroom
mollythewiz 1 points 1y ago
weld a metal podium to the pavement outside of your store and lock it to that
Cr9107 2 points 1y ago
***SURFACE MOUNT, concrete drill and anchored***
Ballard style bike rack. Better looking ones available.
https://www.parkitbikeracks.com/2-bike-post?sku=7ZT7045&st-t=pibrmobshop&st-t=pibrgoogshop&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-_-L__rP8gIVF5XICh2bYwSVEAQYAiABEgLvRfD_BwE
_____
(Cleanest looking) custom made is a 3.5 inch signpost, filled with cement. Capped at top. Anchored to ground.
(Easier)
Anchored base
https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/xtube-parking-lot-base?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgZzJzvzP8gIVgYTICh3mOQ6eEAQYBSABEgLOevD_BwE
Add pole. Spot weld screws & bolts...
Ballard style bike rack. Better looking ones available.
https://www.parkitbikeracks.com/2-bike-post?sku=7ZT7045&st-t=pibrmobshop&st-t=pibrgoogshop&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-_-L__rP8gIVF5XICh2bYwSVEAQYAiABEgLvRfD_BwE
_____
(Cleanest looking) custom made is a 3.5 inch signpost, filled with cement. Capped at top. Anchored to ground.
(Easier)
Anchored base
https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/xtube-parking-lot-base?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgZzJzvzP8gIVgYTICh3mOQ6eEAQYBSABEgLOevD_BwE
Add pole. Spot weld screws & bolts...
mollythewiz 1 points 1y ago
ah yes. someone else with a mind as bright as i.
Cr9107 1 points 1y ago
Another cheap, makeshift
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-3-in-x-9-in-x-24-in-Metal-Fence-Post-Driver-901147EB/205960880
Paired with base, welded after ANCHORED. Metal alone is strong enough.
Optional, reinforced with cement.
***STILL cheaper than actual rack***
Bike racks are $75+ per bike then ADDITIONAL $50+ for shipping
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-3-in-x-9-in-x-24-in-Metal-Fence-Post-Driver-901147EB/205960880
Paired with base, welded after ANCHORED. Metal alone is strong enough.
Optional, reinforced with cement.
***STILL cheaper than actual rack***
Bike racks are $75+ per bike then ADDITIONAL $50+ for shipping
meowdrian 1 points 1y ago
If your manager doesn’t allow you to store it inside, do you have fencing around your patio furniture that you could secure it to? Hopefully you find a good solution!
boy_linda [OP] 1 points 1y ago
our fencing is just a concrete wall that guards the patio from the drive thru, sadly
meowdrian 2 points 1y ago
Hmm.. Perhaps if your patio isn’t used by lots of customers you could attach it to one of the umbrellas? 🤔
We have a couple umbrellas at my store that are along the fencing and not just smack in the middle of the tables so maybe if you have one like that you could tuck the bike between the wall and umbrella?
We have a couple umbrellas at my store that are along the fencing and not just smack in the middle of the tables so maybe if you have one like that you could tuck the bike between the wall and umbrella?
boy_linda [OP] 1 points 1y ago
our only umbrellas are on the tables customers use, otherwise I would!!
Cr9107 1 points 1y ago
Does Drive thru have any parking spaces. Parking lots the same as OFF STREET PARKING.
***Page 81 @ Reno, NV ordinances***
https://www.reno.gov/home/showdocument?id=82761
Off street parking requires a BIKE RACK, along with handicap parking. (just a single space is enough to force job for bike parking)
Check with city zoning ordinances. Then bring to attention of your job.
***Page 81 @ Reno, NV ordinances***
https://www.reno.gov/home/showdocument?id=82761
Off street parking requires a BIKE RACK, along with handicap parking. (just a single space is enough to force job for bike parking)
Check with city zoning ordinances. Then bring to attention of your job.
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Cr9107 1 points 1y ago
NO... but
In USA, majority of cities
Require any area that has OFF STREET PARKING to have a bike rack.
***all schools and government buildings need bike rack***
Depending on city, on solid ground (sidewalk, gravel, asphalt) possibly near all entrances
____
Details can be found in "your city" zoning ordinance placed under OFF STREET PARKING. (anything else is up to, property owners and management. It's not mandatory)
***Your city @ Reno, Nv. = Page 81***
https://www.reno.gov/home/showdocument?id=82761
Generally MUST HAVE 2 bikes and match 5% total parking = same number of handicap spaces AS A VISUAL if, only if off-street parking is available.
***My city***
1) same number of spaces as handicap parking.
2) located @ all entrances
3) proper lighting, minimum of 2.5' clearance around the rack
***neighboring cities***
SIMPLY put just a bike rack within parking lot. Size of lot minus a spot dedicated for a bike rack
_____
Park in front of camera.
Place your information on paper, folded up, put in seatpost. (if stolen/found, proof of ownership. With receipt from shop)
Buy a bicycle lock with an anti-theft warranty. Kryptonite
Buy bicycle insurance. No need if you already have auto insurance, it's automatically attached
Home owner insurance.
In USA, majority of cities
Require any area that has OFF STREET PARKING to have a bike rack.
***all schools and government buildings need bike rack***
Depending on city, on solid ground (sidewalk, gravel, asphalt) possibly near all entrances
____
Details can be found in "your city" zoning ordinance placed under OFF STREET PARKING. (anything else is up to, property owners and management. It's not mandatory)
***Your city @ Reno, Nv. = Page 81***
https://www.reno.gov/home/showdocument?id=82761
Generally MUST HAVE 2 bikes and match 5% total parking = same number of handicap spaces AS A VISUAL if, only if off-street parking is available.
***My city***
1) same number of spaces as handicap parking.
2) located @ all entrances
3) proper lighting, minimum of 2.5' clearance around the rack
***neighboring cities***
SIMPLY put just a bike rack within parking lot. Size of lot minus a spot dedicated for a bike rack
_____
Park in front of camera.
Place your information on paper, folded up, put in seatpost. (if stolen/found, proof of ownership. With receipt from shop)
Buy a bicycle lock with an anti-theft warranty. Kryptonite
Buy bicycle insurance. No need if you already have auto insurance, it's automatically attached
Home owner insurance.
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