Dealt with several rude guests today, and now my manager wants to talk with me about my how I handled those interactions. Any advice?(i.redd.it)
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[deleted]355 points1y ago
Leave it at that. You deserve to be treated with kindness and even though we don’t know the whole story, I’ve dealt with enough asshole customers at Starbucks to know that you’re going to get coached for something really dumb.
I’m sorry you’re going through that.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]77 points1y ago
Thank you so much. I'll try finish writing my side here.
The first rude guest today ordered a Tall Latte with 4 packets of raw sugar, a splash of half & half, and a stir stick.
I gave him the drink and the stir stick after I watched my coworker put in the sugar and half & half.
He then came back into the store after sitting in the parking lot for several minutes to complain about how we gave him a plain coffee and no stir stick. I said I remember what was added to the drink, and that I could add more raw sugar and for him. So I added the cream, sugar, and stir stick, and he went on his way.
The next rude guest became impatient with me after his payment scan failed 5 times at the register. He had a Venti Sweet Cream Cold Brew, a Hearty Oatmeal, and a Cheese Danish. But he also kept checking his order in the drive-thru, and complained that we didn't get the oatmeal right. I did say it was all in there, because I checked.
And then he just sat there in the drive-thru for a minute. I watched as the time on the drive-thru computer keep going up as more cars started to arrive. So I asked him to please pull through.
He snapped at me, **"Do we have a problem?! Is it not okay with you if I organize my food in my car?! Do you ask everyone to pull through just because they aren't fast enough for you?!"**
I hastily replied that, "we don't have a problem. Have a good rest of your day," and then walked out of the window's view. I didn't want to risk another panic attack at work.
My manager told me not to worry about it, but I guess they texted my store team lead, who then messaged me.
I try my best to make every interaction a good one. I'm friendly, upbeat, always ask how customers days are going, if they have any weekend plans, stuff like that.
Being rude is never my intention at all, and I feel bad if I ever come across that way. I do wish Starbucks would actually train us on how to deal with unruly guests _correctly_. I wasn't ever trained to be an mediator/ conflict resolution expert.
All I do is put a smile on my face, welcome people to Starbucks, take orders, make and hand out drinks, run a register, ask guests how their day is going, and wish them well. I can handle that. What I cannot handle are "guests" that are entitled, rude, and say derogatory things to me or my coworkers.
My team puts up with so much crap, and it feels like Starbucks doesn't even care about how we're doing after all that.
**TL;DR** Had 2 rude guests today. Could have handled it better. Got called out my by team lead. Hopefully, they actually care about how I'm doing, and that I can learn about how to deal with guests like this.
raramuu183 points1y ago
In my personal opinion, your supervisor should have stepped in as soon as it escalated. You don’t get paid enough to deal with that; I would’ve immediately grabbed my shifts attention when he wouldn’t leave at the window. Just be honest with your SM, and remember that you are a human above all other things and not a coffee robot. I hope it works out, if nothing else this will be valuable experience if you continue in a customer-facing career; sometimes you just have to go “ok, here” even when you know you provided what they asked for 🙄
girl_in_blue180 [OP]111 points1y ago
My store manager's way of stepping in was apparently texting the store team lead /:
Either way, I'm going into the meeting with an open mind.
I will ask questions like,
"What was the feedback that you heard?" "Can I share my experience?" "What can I do better?" "What are some strategies for dealing with guests like that?"
If I do quit, I need to have a job lined up at my college, and I want to leave on good terms.
Sarahthelizard30 points1y ago
> My store manager's way of stepping in was apparently texting the store team lead /:
Yeah tell your manager this.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]15 points1y ago
Sorry for the confusion. I didn't word the title correctly.
The person texting me is the store team lead (they were not there when this happened).
My manager was there, and I'm guessing that they texted the store team lead, which then lead to this text I received after I clocked out. _________________________________________
I will be sure to inform my store team lead that my manager did not step in to help.
raramuu10 points1y ago
Yeah, that’s just unprofessional and more-so a total dick move :( I’m sorry your supervisor cares more about covering their ass then communicating with you to your face.
It’s good you’re willing to keep an open mind, that’s probably the best you could do in this scenario. If you’re open to transferring stores, not every management team is like that so it could be worth it in that sense?
Either way, I’m wishing you the best and just know there are so many people that appreciate you & the work you do (even if they don’t say it)❤️❤️❤️
SierraLVX2 points1y ago
One tip for leaving on good terms is when you put in your two week notice, give them a very kind and flattering letter. I did to my store manager when I left and I just had to ignore all the bad moments and really embellish the good ones. She said it was the best letter she got and was sad to see me go, and even said I could keep my staff discount (didn't work but I appreciated the sentiment).
It is a little tough to just ignore some of the bad moments, as I had some very bad ones with my manager, but when you leave you can leave that stuff behind and leave them with a much better impression of you.
Last impressions matter as much as the first.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]4 points1y ago
Just had my meeting with the store team lead this morning. They gave me a Corrective Action Form. The form skipped the _Documented Coaching_ or _Written Warning_ options, and went straight to _Final Written Warning_. All because a guest called in complaining that I had "yelled at them". I have never yelled at guests. At any job.
My store team lead did not want to hear my side of the story, and did not like how I brought up that their text was inappropriate and degrading, as well as off the clock. So I am done.
I have already said that plan to hand in my resignation letter and my aprons tomorrow.
I have also reached out to Partner Resources and the District Manager.
In my letter, I will definitely include that my coworkers have been incredible to work with. It's been a joy to work with them, and I did learn a lot this summer.
However, the management and rude customers are issues that I cannot handle while being a full-time college student. I am perfectly fine with never revisiting the store again because I do not wish to return to that toxic workplace environment.
Edit: I would also like to make note that I have never heard a single complaint before. This was my first, only, and final warning. One more step out of line, and I my position at Starbucks will be terminated.
cringeqween1334 points1y ago
Should've told him "no sir but I am pressured by my bosses to have low drive times meaning the longer you sit here organizing your items the higher our drives times get. It also makes ALLLLLL the people behind you wait longer. If the person in front of you and the person in front of them spent a minute organizing their stuff that would be an extra 2 minutes you would've had to wait. Now that I've had to explain to you how time works we've wasted so much already."
Kyde_Drakes32 points1y ago
Any manager who refers to the store as ‘my store’ is an asshat. Made more so by any manager who does not stand up for their baristas when they are mistreated. Basically, your manager should have gotten your side of the story first before sending you such a absolutely confrontational message. A simple ‘hey I want to talk about what happened’ would have been 100 times better than immediately demanding your compliance and obedience for a situation they weren’t even there for.
Allopathological25 points1y ago
If what you said is true you did nothing wrong. Your supervisor needs to grow a pair and support his staff.
My shift when I used to work for the bux literally cussed people out in front of me for them being rude and out of line.
fourcatsandarobot11 points1y ago
I don’t think you were rude and I also second what was already said about your SSV, they absolutely should’ve stepped in. Understandable if it happened so fast they missed it but to to be clear you would be fully in your right to flag down an SSV to deal with difficult customers.
Also, Jesus, fuck your manager. I get that they’re probably under pressure from their dm whatever but they can’t expect you to act like a doormat.
philosopher_cat_lady3 points1y ago
Indirectness is safer. "Did you need anything else, sir?" may have played better.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]2 points1y ago
In hindsight, that would have been a better response.
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royrogersmacfreely3 points1y ago
This is why im over the bux
Assiqtaq2 points1y ago
They don't train you to handle rude guests because that would cost money and time and they really don't care until those people complain. Even then, they really don't care. They take the minimum action they can to give the impression they do, then it is just let go unless enough complaints happen to make it seem like a big enough problem that it might impact profits. Trust me that the people taking the complaints at the corporate level are also not getting enough pay to deal with it, they just have more resources to handle it than you do. So from my point of view, you should not be handling it at all past the "welp I tried" stage of things. Anything after that, you get a manager. And I tried could just as easily be a fake smile "sorry about that, let me fix that for you" in a super cheerful voice and handing out what you need to get them out of there, and nothing more. Anything else, manager. Fix a drink? Sure, just mark it out and take the original back. No original, talk to a manager and follow what they say. You aren't being paid the big bucks, you don't have the toolset to handle truly pissed of people, just stop doing it.
TheFriendlyFeminist139 points1y ago
“My store” is such a toxic pov
girl_in_blue180 [OP]79 points1y ago
They can be pretty possessive.
Unrelatedly, they also got upset when I was frightened by all the wasps that entered the store, and was like, "if you're not allergic, then keep working".
Like, _excuse me?_ Wtf?
Meduka__24 points1y ago
Omg this. I am not allergic, but I am terrified as all hell. Like, I'd rather not get stung at work thank you
Educational_Love7618125 points1y ago
Remind your manager that dignity and respect go both ways
girl_in_blue180 [OP]67 points1y ago
Very true. Should I bring that up if I need to defend myself?
sammiipiie63 points1y ago
Yes. We are human beings working a job and we are entitled to ALSO feel welcome in our store. We do Not have to be berated at work by jerks. We have the right to refuse service to customers who do not treat us well and we do not need to put up with being treated like that.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]47 points1y ago
Thank you. I've just realized that I don't even feel welcome in this store. I'm constantly on my toes just waiting to get chewed out for making a mistake.
I've already had a rude guest and manager cause me to have a severe panic attack in the backroom. I cannot risk another one.
I've only been here like, 3 months, and I'm just so burnt out.
sammiipiie28 points1y ago
It’s gotten So Much Worse during the pandemic and the customers are being so incredibly rude to us lately. I had a man SNAP HIS FINGERS at one of my baristas and I was like sir please use your words do Not SnAp at my baristas we are not dogs and he went all “I’m good friends with your manager what’s your name I’m gonna tell him about this” and my manager had my back so I’m really sorry to hear that yours does not have yours. The first priority should always be about the safety and care about our employees imo. And yeah you absolutely have the right to stand up for yourself and others on your floor and you deserve to feel welcome and at home in your place of work. If your manager gives you a hard time I would talk to your district manager about not being supported when it comes to rude customers. They’ll definitely come back with a “customer is always right” and they’re usually going to side with the manager but if they get multiple complaints about the same thing they have to address it eventually.
The_walking_man_12 points1y ago
Yes. Most certainly bring that up. The third place is made for both the customer AND partners. If customers are rude to partners we are fully in the right and protected by company policy to refuse them service. You can even pull up a paper on the hub that should be printed and posted in your store in the lobby area that explains this for even the customers to see.
amazing_redhead10 points1y ago
The "Third Place"mentality goes both ways
PK_Pixel7 points1y ago
It's up to you in the end. Personally, I will always put self respect first. When I got in trouble a while ago, I took full blame and responsibility and didn't deflect. However, when my manager does something wrong, i.e. writing on the weekly report that "Our CCS is back up to 58, no one gets fired this week!", I will defend myself with as much as respect as when I took the blame for something that I did wrong. Anyone can be in the wrong. We're all human. That includes managers.
OnehappySmile38 points1y ago
You are wicked awesome and deserve a good (hint better) job. Go forth and apply elsewhere
girl_in_blue180 [OP]12 points1y ago
Good advice. Any recommendations?
AMarie-MCMXCI32 points1y ago
Literally anywhere else. Starbucks as a company has gotten so toxic and they expect so much from partners without adequate pay or training. If your campus is open I would recommend applying for a student job there.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]22 points1y ago
Thank you!
I used to work the ITS Help Desk at my old college. I will ask my new college's ITS and Library if they are hiring.
Free coffee is nice, but not at the expense of my mental health.
kcycipotel11 points1y ago
Agreed ^^ our entire district at SB was literal hell. All of the managers were getting fired for sleeping with each other. We lost so many people to where half the stores would close to help the "better" stores. My old store in particular was the "lesser" store because we were the only cafe only store. We made more money than the drive thru stores around, but it didn't matter. They would constantly close our store to help the other drive thru stores. Our managers would get switched like every two weeks to new managers, old ones would transfer to other stores. Random managers would hire 20 new people at a time, AND minors that had school. Our store was a complete mess, there were three shift leads, everyone was basically new, we were in hell. Everyone was rude asf because everyone was new, it literally started turning me into an alcoholic. Please do not stay in a toxic job. I literally put applications everywhere and was able to land a great work from home customer support job for a gaming company. I don't have the education for other stable jobs, but I promise there is nothing worse than Starbucks currently. I used to love and adore my job, now, I will never step foot in another Starbucks.
AMarie-MCMXCI4 points1y ago
Yeah, I quit last week. Thankfully I found another job right away because I was going leave with or without a backup plan.
Realistic-Action93930 points1y ago
Sounds like this manager is power trippin. “My store” lmao. IMO, this is not an appropriate text to send. 🤷🏼♀️
girl_in_blue180 [OP]6 points1y ago
Ikr? What should I do about that?
Realistic-Action9399 points1y ago
So personally, this would be enough to have me looking for a new job lol but I also tend to take things very personally and would just be very angry because that text is a bit condescending.
From reading the story behind it, you said your team lead was the one who sent the text, after the manager asked them to speak to you? Is that team lead a shift supervisor? If the manager is directly in charge of them, I honestly would go right back to that manager and show them that text they sent you. It is very likely that your manager just asked the team lead to have a word with you next time you worked together and this team lead just took it to the next level. They could have simply waited until you were working together to speak with you rather than sending you this message, potentially creating unnecessary anxiety for you.
I think you did the right thing, you did not continue to engage or argue with the customer so I’m 99% sure this message was sent to intimidate.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]5 points1y ago
I'm hoping to get a work study on-campus job at my college. Starbucks has just completely burned me out physically and mentally after every shift. Even more so than when I worked at Target full-time.
I will go ask ITS and the Library if they are hiring when they open tomorrow.
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Sorry for any confusion about who is texting me.
I got the text from the store team lead / owner / the one who hired me. Unsure about their title. They were not there when this went down.
The manager (or whoever was in charge) was there. I'm assuming the manager informed the store team lead about this. Or the guest left a complaint to the store team lead. idk
Realistic-Action9393 points1y ago
I totally understand. I was feeling the same way leading up to the start of COVID. My store did close for a month and a half so I had paid time off, and I also took a month long COVID LOA, but my mental health has gotten so bad and customers had just gotten more demanding and evil. I put in my notice a week after returning from the leave of absence.
So I think once you have that meeting with the team lead and express how you’re feeling and sharing your experience, see how they handle it. If they continue with this attitude they have, you could always reach out to your district manager. It really depends on how you feel after you speak with them.
rustic_fall29 points1y ago
I would’ve just hit them with the “?”
girl_in_blue180 [OP]9 points1y ago
Smart move
[deleted]26 points1y ago
You should have texted back “fuck off” and stopped showing up.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]17 points1y ago
Mood
Edit: I would _never_ actually say that. I don't want to lose my job. I just don't know if I can continue. College starts up again soon, and I don't want any toxicity.
Alarming-Touch105322 points1y ago
I'd tell my manager that it is highly inappropriate to text you about anything involving being reprimanded. These are things that should be done on the clock and nowhere else. Also, they shouldn't be speaking to you in that manner either. You're their employee not their child.
Realistic-Action9394 points1y ago
I agree 100%!
HelpMePleaseName19 points1y ago
Texted you on your personal time. Quit.
tiramisutrash5 points1y ago
Bruh. My thoughts exactly. They don't pay you enough while you're there to deal w bs, let alone when you're not there.
FfierceLaw19 points1y ago
Your manager is supposed to “assume best intent” on your part. That text to you fails to assume that you were dealing with customers with the best intent. Your manager violated a basic Starbucks rule by assuming that you were in the wrong.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]6 points1y ago
true. My Store Team Lead was not there to witness the incident.
Now that I thought about it, I'm unsure if they heard about it through my manager or from a complaint from the customer.
I will do my best tomorrow. Really anxious about it though
mozziemozzie11 points1y ago
any manager that says “my” instead of “our” is bad, bad news
rasperries10 points1y ago
I work at a tarbux and have been considering applying to my local Starbucks since it’s closer but god I couldn’t handle being constantly “coached” like this. When a customer is being super rude and just disrespectful I snap back a little and don’t let them disrespect me. I couldn’t handle this everyday.
becaauseimbatmam1 points1y ago
As with anything, YMMV depending on who your actual manager is. Our store manager is the worst in the district from what I've heard and even still I can't *imagine* her ever doing something like this. I talk back to rude customers all the time (tbf it's always when she's not in earshot lol) and I've never been coached even a little bit.
I've showed up an hour and a half late, I've snapped at rude customers, I've left town multiple times with almost no notice (I got most of my shifts covered but not all), I've showed up out of dress code, and probably worse. Never even gotten a warning, the most trouble I've ever gotten in was "You're out of dress code, it's fine but make sure you don't wear loud patterns again."
And again the old SM was apparently way more laid back than our current one.
dhnu868 points1y ago
I’m sure there are 2 sides to the story - BUT as a long time customer visiting Starbucks more than 300 times a year - I ALWAYS I found the staff at ANY location to be awesome. I would sometimes watch the crazy orders, drive thru issues, homeless drama etc. and feel genuinely sorry for the shit that society makes you guys deal with. The staff were always beyond tolerant. Sorry you have to deal with this and thank you for your service.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]7 points1y ago
Thank you so much! I appreciate the empathy :)
madamesoybean7 points1y ago
How are YOU getting a talking to about this? You handled it without escalating & not losing it with the rude dude! Grace under pressure. I'm sending you lots of luck and good vibes! ✨✨✨
spensyr7 points1y ago
You have the right to defend/protect yourself, no matter your job position. Stand your ground.
Savmac10207 points1y ago
I would've just said k. lmao
hctiB_bmuD6 points1y ago
Has this happened before? And if not, why is the manager not taking into consideration that this was a bad day or just that nteraction with bad circumstances. We're all human. Literally could've said, "Hey, I heard what happened. If you ever feel like you might say something that wouldn't be to appropriate, step away and grab the shift." There's no coaching needed imo.
Also, "my store..." This manager honestly needs more coaching more than you
girl_in_blue180 [OP]4 points1y ago
Is this something I should be concerned about?
Also, who would I report this to? This person is in charge of the entire store.
hctiB_bmuD6 points1y ago
I would just keep your distance from the manager if I were you.
And if this is constantly happening, you would report it to pcs.
Edit: I also agree with everyone saying that they shouldn't be texting you off the clock. At that time, it is never your problem
sci-fi-lullaby6 points1y ago
Lol we are expected to take abuse that's pretty much it
yesixox5 points1y ago
Mann customers be acting so entitled and then feel so attacked when we give them the same attitude, like they did absolutely nothing. 😑
Cignus7775 points1y ago
Do what I did.
I quit today.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]2 points1y ago
Congrats! That must have been so freeing! Did you put in a two weeks notice?
Cignus7773 points1y ago
Yep!
drew-b5 points1y ago
next time someone tries to talk to me about "connecting" with customers, i'm quitting
FairestGuin4 points1y ago
I was literally in drive-thru yesterday and my SSV, who by the way is nearly half my age, through some underhanded comment at me about not doing the work that I was focused on and instead making customer connections. Another one of my co-workers walked up about 2 seconds later and I looked at her and I said I swear to God I'm going to punch someone in the face. I already didn't want to be in window that day and I hate being put there constantly but I just mask my anxiety better than anybody else at my store so that's where I usually end up.
drew-b3 points1y ago
a part of me dies every time i'm asked to go on window
dekumacchiato4 points1y ago
“MY STORE” ???? try *OUR
fakepunk224 points1y ago
Your manager shouldn’t be texting you about work stuff off the clock
West_Stand18634 points1y ago
One option you could bring up during coaching is that the third place environment is specifically for both customers and partners. These customers sound like they were both disruptive to the third place environment for other customers as well as your team: you did your job by trying to preserve the third place for your teammates and other customers. Maybe even ask your boss what their take is for how to preserve the third place for your team during moments like that. Just a thought.
Politicalgeek034 points1y ago
Hey, I’m a shift. I’m sorry you had to deal with that and what your manager is going to say but I highly recommend bringing up the fact that you 1. felt harassed or bullied by the customer and 2. you also felt physically threatened by them as well. Ask your manager to file an incident report about the customer because of the way they made you feel.
Brave-Storm4 points1y ago
Is your manager texting you this stuff when you're off the clock? Because I don't think that's ok.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]2 points1y ago
Yeah. To be fair, my shift ended at 4:15, but I was told to punch out at 4:10. I was already in my car when I got this text. My store team lead (sorry, not manager. I wasn't sure how to word it) had already been off the clock for several hours, and was not there when this guest interaction occurred.
P_2_P3 points1y ago
Call partner connections and say this manager is disrupting your second place by the way they aggressively messaged you
You can also request a shift or manager to be present during this discussion
girl_in_blue180 [OP]3 points1y ago
Calling them now.
Edit: already had the discussion. Left early to prevent a panic attack.
I'm quiting
P_2_P2 points1y ago
If you feel you must, I support you 100 percent. But have you looked into transferring to a different store possibly one closer to your home?
girl_in_blue180 [OP]2 points1y ago
This is the only Starbucks in my college's town, and the next store closest to me is 30 minutes away. I'd rather find an on-campus job.
After all this, I don't feel like I'd ever want to work at Starbucks again. It's too stressful for me. I've done everything from retail to landscaping to IT work, and even those jobs weren't as bad as this was.
I have already quit. I turned in my aprons, my letter of resignation, and my partner statement for the Corrective Action Form.
I'm done.
P_2_P2 points1y ago
Get the work study credit!!! So happy for you!!!
kIose3 points1y ago
It's actually rude and disrespectful of your manager who is making assumptions about your interactions without understanding the full scope of the story.
rest_aura_nt3 points1y ago
Our clientele is literally the worst. We have the most entitled customers. If they're going to go out of their way to be terrible to you, its hard to not match that energy a little. Good luck. I hope your manager is reasonable enough to understand that in order to work with customers and provide good service there has to be mutual respect.
MiyokoSota3 points1y ago
I'm an SSV and we've been having these stupid zoom meetings in order to boost morale and I guess to hear about things that aren't going the greatest. One of the most consistent messages I hear time and time again is that partners are important and shouldn't be subject to abusive language and treatment at work. It doesn't sound like any of these instances escalated that far, but your management should support you. Yes there is a correct way to talk to rude customers, but they should coach you, not belittle you or call you out in a bad way
xItami_3 points1y ago
Admit to imperfections about being treated less than human in a stressful environment, that you tried your best but can’t guarantee a perfect way to put your humanity out the window every time consistently in difficult situations. If your manager can’t understand that you’re literally human, that’s a bigger issue. Just be receptive to feedback, but do not budge on the idea that you are less than perfect in non ideal circumstances and that should be seen as realistic and natural.
okwhatsize3 points1y ago
I left Starbucks for this reason alone. No support from managers and always made to be the villain.
rio8envy72 points1y ago
Just because you handled a situation doesn’t mean you handled it well or in a way your manager found appropriate. I don’t know the situation or anything I’m just saying it could be something your manager just wants to work on with you.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]1 points1y ago
I understand that that there is a difference in handling a situation vs handling it well, so I'd like to clarify that I did the latter.
I have never yelled at guests at any job. I was not rude or condescending to this customer despite him being apprehensive towards me the entire time.
When I came into work the next day, my store team lead presented me with a _Corrective Action Form_ and a _Final Written Warning_. I had no prior warnings, verbal or written, or any coaching. This came completely out of the blue. It was based off the customer calling in to complain about me. No one else. I was told that "rude guests don't call in" as justification.
I was told that if I step out of line again, my position would be terminated.
They did not even want to hear my side of the story.
I have already quit. I am now able to focus on the fall semester without having to deal with this toxic workplace environment.
rio8envy72 points1y ago
I get that. I’m sorry that happened to you and leaving was probably a good choice. People are nuts and getting worse and worse. You should be getting coaching and or a warning before a final warning. Again I’m sorry that happened to you. We’re you able to explain what happened to your manager?
girl_in_blue180 [OP]2 points1y ago
I was ignored when my store team lead spoke with me about the Corrective Action Form.
I did print out my Partner Statement and hand it in, so sort of, in a way.
Thank you so much. I appreciate your sentiment.
goodtombs2 points1y ago
And this folks is why I hate Starbucks. Been told multiple times what a hard worker I am, how I’m a star on bar getting drinks out quick and super well organized as CS, however, if I so much as speak with a slightly curt tone, or tell customers that no I cannot drop everything I’m doing for the 5 other customers I’m serving so they can get their drink bumped up the queue then I need to work on being friendlier and making the moment right for these customers. Where’s my moment? I’m on bar for multiple hours without a break to even get a drink of water, we’re often understaffed, having at least one no show a day at this point. Sorry if minimum wage isn’t enough to motivate me anymore. Also not to mention most people I talk to about Starbucks, find the whole experience awkward not because baristas are rude but because the customer doesn’t want to awkward prying small talk and it’s clear the baristas don’t care either but are being pushed to. Starbucks is fast food, point blank, and minimum wage is not enough to compensate the stress, duress, and abuse we endure from customers.
Alternative_Blacks2 points1y ago
I think you should explain to your manager how the attitudes of these particular customers make you feel. Talk about how draining it is to constantly deal w/ day in and day out. Speak to the mental and emotional drag it is on you. Even our offer to put her/him in your place (“do you act this way when you’re not wearing the apron?”). It’s a little easier to deal with one person a day but I’m sure it’s isn’t just one person (it’s Starbucks!). Dealing with some of these lame ass customers is a job in itself, being asked to make multiple drinks in hectic conditions is something else. I salute you for attempting to maintain your sanity and protect your peace when other adults are at their worse because I know how hard it is. 🤗
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sosaidsmudge2 points1y ago
Log in any bad interaction with those customers on the iPad. Seriously. Look after yourself. Log a few incident reports. You have like 24 hours to do it.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]1 points1y ago
I did not even know that logging bad customer incident reports was an option!
thatswackrhi2 points1y ago
need i remind everyone starbucks has an anti bullying policy? works both ways. i do not service people that are ugly to baristas. you are allowed to ask them to kindly leave the store.
eyedr0nez2 points1y ago
The tone of his message is letting you know he only cares about how he will be viewed as a manager. He does not care about how his baristas are treated! He is scolding you because managers are known to be fired first. Let him know you have a right to refuse a customer that harassed you! He’s an asshole.
johnnyk3122 points1y ago
lol “in my store” what a d bag
mama_bibi2 points1y ago
Is a store lead above a manager? I'm confused here.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]1 points1y ago
Sorry for any confusion.
I have a manager and a store team lead.
The manager that was there did not speak up or involve themselves in this situation. They apparently never even told my store team lead.
My store team lead is the one that texted me the message in my post.
I had the store team lead message me after the incident. They were not there when it happened. This is completely based of the call the rude customer made to Starbucks.
Long story short, I'm quitting.
mama_bibi1 points1y ago
Well here's the thing. The store team lead really doesn't have the authority to be talking to you like that. Periot-t-t just saying. Like if your Manger was there and the situation wasn't an issue for the manager than why is the shift even talking. I'm a shift. My manager let's many many many things get swept under the rug, therefore I keep my mouth shut even if I don't agree. Not my pay grade not my stress
pudgethehamster2 points1y ago
Edit:just realised it's your shift lead not your manager sorry. But also your manager could have handled things better as well. That made my heart sink just to read. I'm so sorry you're in this situation. You deserve respect and I'm sad your manager isn't backing you up. I hope everything works out and you get treated how you deserve😟
AmbitiousCriticism2 points1y ago
You can politely remind them that you are also part of the third place environment and you would love to have an explanatory conversation about this only when you are on the clock.
Hopping-Along2232 points1y ago
That's rich "my" store. Bish really rude is rude. I bet you did your best doll. I'm a former partner.
fuxkyachickenstrips2 points1y ago
I was coached a many of times on this kind of stuff..and all I could think of during the coaching was that it is not in me to let someone talk to me like that. I’m here to make money..just like you’re going to your job to make money. Don’t make me feel like I am unworthy or below you because I make your coffee in the morning. I had such a hard time with that and I always felt like our little achievements weren’t recognized. I know constant growth, progress, and goals are very important but when you’re constantly told “we need to reach this goal and we need to reach it now”, we bust our asses and reach that goal, and then the managers are like ok now everyone should have been doing this all the while. The way you achieved that goal was all wrong. Do better. I gave up. I miss making drinks but it doesn’t outweigh my worth.
philosopher_cat_lady2 points1y ago
Tell your manager what they want to hear
TYVM1432 points1y ago
Starbucks customers are notoriously awful
jesthere2 points1y ago
You did nothing wrong. If you are required to sit through a "discussion" then hear them out, keep your cool, and calmly state that you were definitely not disrespectful to the customer. Just that. Less said the better.
Don't feel you must defend yourself because there is nothing to defend. So, go in with that attitude and don't let them shake you, don't let them intimidate you, and don't let them mess with your mind.
Really, the only power this *whistlebritches* has is in trying to intimidate you and break you down. You actually have the real power - to choose to stay or leave. Hold that realization close and use it to your advantage.
Believe me. It's all a game. I worked at Starbucks for 8 years. Glad to be out.
FemmeScarface2 points1y ago
Oh hell no, if my boss had the audacity to speak to me this way he wouldn't like anything I had to say back. They're acting like youre a misbehaving 5 year old, and the whole "my store" bit is nauseating. You didn't do a damn thing wrong. This is why I quit, I got sick of my SM taking the customers side on literally everything and screwing over the baristas constantly.
ephemereaux2 points1y ago
The way they’re talking to you is bullshit, they’re mad disrespectful themselves. I wouldn’t tolerate that at all.
smokeorchid2 points1y ago
What about you? What about making partners feel welcome in the place they work every day? Does it not matter when partners are treated disrespectfully? Your manager drank the kook aid you hate to see it 😰
46patisse2 points1y ago
You are in the right, your management is in the wrong
I have had many discussions and they don’t hear you out so why try
wendywendy52 points1y ago
Tbh I just laugh
baristanna2 points1y ago
when i worked for starbucks, my manager gave us permission to at least stand up for ourselves to rude costumers. if they don’t treat you with kindness and like the human you actually are, then they don’t really deserve a “customer connection” 🙄
AidenParamore2 points1y ago
quit.
girl_in_blue180 [OP]3 points1y ago
Working on it. Thank you :)
FairestGuin2 points1y ago
I would take some time to look in the partner handbook because I'm pretty sure that there's a section in there that talks about customer relations and at what point a customer being unruly is no longer acceptable. There is a policy in there that states that at a certain point an unruly customer is broaching harassment territory and unreasonable territory and that it's Starbucks policy to protect their baristas from that kind of behavior. We have absolutely reprimanded customers or banned them from our store for being unreasonable or saying rude inappropriate or or borderline harassment type comments. I would probably check into the exact wording of that policy if I were in your shoes and then if my SM approaches me I will be ready and well informed enough to defend myself and say that no this customer was very clearly engaging in these actions that according to Starbucks policy we will not accept. I had every right to stand my ground even more than I did and Starbucks policy backs that.
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Cheef-Queef2 points1y ago
Tell your manager and customers to eat your ass
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What about you??? People being disrespectful to you? The back bone of your Starbucks
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Nah we throw hands at my store we don’t enable bad behavior
keatixg2 points1y ago
tell them to fuck off honestly your manager should be defending you regardless
Vegetable-Rain76521 points1y ago
That sounds so condescending. Sounds like your manager is the one who needs a lesson in respect.
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Lol never worked at Starbucks, but I’m glad I can tell my supervisors to f***off
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