What you wish you could tell your ASM/SM(self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by B0redBarista
Recent rehire (250****) left in 11/2019 and came back in 10/2021. I'm about halfway through ASM training. What do you wish your ASM/SM knew/did differently? Or what do you wish you could tell your ASM/SM but feel like you can't? Or what advice do you have for when I finish training?
untilcomplete9 points1y ago
Something that I wanted to tell every ASM and SM I had during my six years with Bux: Your partners are people, with lives, interests, dreams, and relationships that they may never bring through the doors with them. They’re not figures on an iPad diagram, they’re not numbers in the labor metric, they’re not perfect Starbucks machines who just need the right managerial pep talk to get their cogs turning just the way you want them to. And most importantly - your partners are not your stepping stone to better opportunities. Nor are they the obstacle to such.
Partners are people, who are doing their best. They have a hard, demanding job, both physically and emotionally. They’re keeping a lot of invisible balls in the air, especially now, when every interaction with the public is fraught and has the potential to make you A. sick, B. cry, or C. get screamed at for something that is probably only peripherally your fault. Working customer service sucks right now more than it ever has.
Your team just wants to be treated like people. They don’t want to be treated like a piece of machinery in the great assembly line of Starbucks, and they don’t want you to act like you’re machinery, either. Meet your team with compassion, grace, and a sense of humor. You’re a person too, so act like one. Don’t pretend to have all the answers, don’t patronize your team, and don’t parrot Starbucks-approved sound bytes at them every time they ask you for advice or whenever they need coaching. Otherwise you run the risk of your team thinking of you as a coffee automaton whose brain is a Starbucks-sponsored box full of hollow sentiments.
Almost every ASM I’ve ever had tried to be the perfect Starbucks manager 100% percent of the time, rather than a regular human manager doing the best job they could heading a team of other humans. Long story short: don’t let your job override your humanity. Thank you.
B0redBarista [OP]2 points1y ago
Yes! My DM and the other managers in the district have made clear is that it's impossible to be great right after training. I'm going to make mistakes and that's okay. The perfect manager does not exist.
I chose to come back to Starbucks because I love the human connection and I feel like it's just as important between partners as it is between partners and customers.
I've learned in some of my previous experience the value of learning from your team. I may not come up the way to fix an issue in the store, but one of my baristas might! It doesn't matter that it wasn't my idea - it matters that we work together!
I really love hearing feedback like this because it makes me feel like I have the right goals! Ultimately I want to find a balance between personal connection and professionalism, staying goal oriented and staying partner focused, I really just want to create an environment where my partners can succeed and do their best work!
I know the Starbucks values are kind of cheesy and they aren't always lived out - but they really hit home for me and I want to live them out for my partners!
Internal-Ad-88202 points1y ago
Here here! Very well said 💗💗💗
wildaloofrebel553 points1y ago
Ask “why do you do it this way?” as opposed to coming in guns blazing and telling the partners they’re doing everything wrong
potatopoisoning3 points1y ago
This this this this this!
I 100% have always had more respect for managers who come in and try to understand the “why are we doing things *this* way” first before they start making changes! It’s not that improvement can’t be made, but learning from the partners why things are done the way they are currently and *then* making the improvements shows you have some kind of consideration for their knowledge and space as well!
Internal-Ad-88203 points1y ago
Oh god I've got too much to tell my former ASM/SM in general (I'm a 257**** who quit last week abruptly) so I'll keep it brief lol
1) Work nights. Your SSVs can only do so much without an upper management presence guiding things, especially since I learned that SSVs effectively have no authority over partners.
2) Get your head out of that vat of Starbucks Koolaid. The world does not revolve around 'make the moment right' and 'assume positive intent', and the basic job of any management or supervisor is generally to take all employee interaction with a grain of salt to keep things professional.
3) I really hope you guys get caught for safety and sanitation violations and are held accountable for it, because you need to learn that there are certain standards you HAVE to follow, and not just pick and choose which ones you feel like following or not.
B0redBarista [OP]3 points1y ago
Sounds like you had a rough store!
I definitely plan to work at least one evening shift a week! That's something that's bothered me my entire time with the company: none of my managers have ever worked evenings!
I'm also a complete stickler for health and safety! I despise it when people compromise those standards!
Internal-Ad-88202 points1y ago
It was really rough unfortunately 😔 Toxic work environment through and through, and my SM and ASM would straight up argue with me on policy (which in some circumstances I had to specifically look up and show them) which partners saw and would also do. You name it, it happened. And those two worked for Starbucks for waaaaay longer than me so you would think they'd know better 🙄
It sounds like you're gonna be a great manager though! I appreciate that you're taking the time to get perspectives and do things properly 💗 I think one more thing I'd add too is please please please share sales and customer connections and other metrics numbers with your shifts on a regular basis, both in and out of meetings. Among the many other issues I had, it was hard being in the dark of how we were doing in those areas that we had no access to except through the SM, y'know?
B0redBarista [OP]2 points1y ago
Thanks for the vote of confidence! I try to share as much as possible! Sometimes I overshare lol - partners will look at me like "Why do I need to know this?" My trainer has been very good about showing me how to access metrics and where the best places to post them are so partners can see!
Internal-Ad-88202 points1y ago
LOL they'll probably eventually appreciate you sharing so much though! If it were me in that situation I'd absorb all you told me like a sponge 😆 And you'll create a culture of learning and improvement which is neeeeeeever a bad thing 💖 Good luck with the rest of your training! I sincerely hope things go well for you and that your store will be successful 💖
[deleted]2 points1y ago
I think it’s so weird that SSV’s have basically no authority over partners. So different from any other job I’ve had
Internal-Ad-88201 points1y ago
Right?! Why bother calling us supervisors when we can't supervise 😑 I sent a partner home one time because she was refusing to wear her hat (it's required for partners in my area based on local food safety regulations), and I was told by my DM that all I can do is tell the partner the policy and report the incident to my SM like excuse me? So you're just gonna allow the partner to not wear a hat and potentially get hair and dandruff into customers' food and drink? Make it make senseeeee 😖😖😖
sailorgrumpycat3 points1y ago
Also, we have shift meetings where i keep hearing about how our customer connection scores have been backsliding recently. But we as a company have been going through very abrupt(suddenly out of **all** pastries?), sharp(no fraps? We're in front of a school?!?!) and oftentimes prolonged shortages (cinnamon dolce/guava/vbh). So as an ASM/SM make sure your aware of what outages or promotions specifically pertain to demographics at your store so that there aren't unreasonable connection score expectations both for yourself and placed on other employees.
B0redBarista [OP]1 points1y ago
This is a little disappointing to hear. My store has also recently seen a drop in connection scores, but my SM trainer and I are approaching it from a perspective of: what are our obstacles to connecting? Rather than a: y'all need to connect better perspective.
Something I have hear my trainer and DM say often is we don't coach to a number. Sure, 50 in connection is what we want, but we coach routines to get there.
sailorgrumpycat2 points1y ago
Remember though, no amount of coaching, no amount of customer interaction, not even a ***daily*** clean play level of cleanliness, can fix customer connection scores when we are out of the ingredients or items of 20% of our customers wants. Realistic expectations is all I'm recommending.
sailorgrumpycat3 points1y ago
As a ssv, i feel like it would be nice to know what the weekly *allotted* man hours were for the store so that i could understand the reasoning behind how they were allocated, in order to potentially improve coverage by reallocating schedule time. Sometimes my store is busy as fuck and we legitimately don't have enough people, or we do have enough people until i have to run breaks.
B0redBarista [OP]2 points1y ago
I can tell you how we are supposed to allocate labor and build schedules: based on your store's sales history we are given a number of hours for each day, not necessarily weekly. (There is a total weekly number, but we are supposed to go off of the daily.) On top of that it's broken down into a coverage graph which is the system's best attempt at predicting how many customers you'll see each half hour and it guides us in allocating the labor. It actually tells us how many partners it wants as coverage every half hour. Now we are allowed to deviate from it slightly and make judgement calls, but we are supposed to try to stick to it as closely as possible.
I hope that helps you understand how allocation is supposed to work! Personally, I love sharing knowledge and would have no issues with a partner asking me about this in my store, so I hope your SM is the same.
Also, there are ways an SM can attempt to fight for more labor - my SM trainer showed me some tools and our DM is always willing to let us present an argument for more labor!
sailorgrumpycat3 points1y ago
I meant specifically the limits/allotments for the day/week. Ive seen the predicted items/customers on the dcr, but that doesn't necessarily show how many people are allotted to be scheduled.
B0redBarista [OP]2 points1y ago
For clarification, here's a picture of a coverage graph and what the lines/colors mean. $1
B0redBarista [OP]2 points1y ago
Right! It's very similar! We're given a total number of hours per day and it aligns to a coverage graph that looks very similar to the predictions on the DCR. (If I'm not mistaken, both the DCR and the coverage graph come from the same system/algorithms.) Basically, the more customers/items predicted the higher number of partners we're supposed to/allowed to schedule. So my store's peak hits around 7, so usually it wants me to hit 6-8 partners by then depending on what day it is. Then it tells me how when I should start dropping off.
So, say I'm given 100hrs to schedule for the day - the graph tells me about how many partners I should need at any given time and then it's my job to figure out how to make the 100hrs work with that.
sailorgrumpycat2 points1y ago
Don't schedule one shift and 2 people who have never done clean plays before for the clean play. They both have to be taught all the tasks and so can only do roughly half of them. Ideally it would be a ssv, and either an experienced clean play employee and one who has never done it before, or 2 practiced clean play employees.
If possible, have 2 ssv's, one who closes (pull, counts, tills, tips, etc.) and runs the play, and one who is either extra coverage or is out of the play and just does clean play tasks the whole time and then runs the other partner(s) who are scheduled for it, while the other shift does the regular close tasks and then leaves.
B0redBarista [OP]1 points1y ago
I definitely agree that people should be trained in clean play before being scheduled for it!
I am a little confused as to the need for 2 ssv's - I was under the impression that clean play didn't start until closing tasks were finished. So, if you close at 9p the ssv should be able to wrap up closing duties until 9:30p and then you would be scheduled until 11:30p for clean play. (At least that's how we schedule it.)
Am I missing something? Or do you do it differently at your store?
sailorgrumpycat2 points1y ago
Not necessarily 2 shifts, but moreso just have one person off the floor doing the tasks. It normally goes from 930 - 1130, its just damn near impossible to do all the tasks in 2 hours. The ice machine itself to do right is about 40 minutes on its own. Im just used to it being a second ssv off the floor doing the tasks. Would just be a bit more flexible being a shift, but not really necessary.
B0redBarista [OP]1 points1y ago
Makes sense! I know the ice machines are a pain and take forever! It could be possible to make an argument for an extra half hour of clean play time that way you could have one person start right at close... I'll keep that in mind when I'm in role.
Own_Distribution_9401 points1y ago
Honestly… that I have a crush on them 🤣🤣. But never will they know 🤐
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