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recipe questions (self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by canidieyet_
okay, so there’s been a debate at my store going on for a while now. we have a couple of people who have been with starbucks 5-6 years who insist i’m (2 year partner) doing the recipes wrong.
biggest one is cold brews. i know the sweet cream cold brew/cb’s with foam get half pumps. but i use full pumps for regular cold brews (so a venti cold brew with sf vanilla, i’d use the 6 hot bar pumps). i’ve asked my shifts, but they’re divided on it too and my sm isn’t around enough to get her answer.
second this is layered fraps. person a insists mocha cookie gets mocha sauce on the bottom with whip, no crumbles, and just crumbles/drizzle/whip on top. and caramel crunches get dark caramel, whip, and crunch topping on the bottom. drizzle and crunch topping on the top with whip.
i always do whip and crumbles on the bottom for the MC frap, and crumbles, whip and mocha drizzle on top. for the CRCF i do whip and dark caramel on the bottom, whip, caramel drizzle and crunch topping on top. this is how i was trained by my old SM (10 yr partner) when i started.
everytime i insist on checking recipe cards (i’m often on bar when they start complaining about drink standards while they’re standing on dto scrolling through their phone) they just tell me they’ve been a partner for x amount of years and know it all by heart. if i’m on bar i don’t have time to run to the back and grab an ipad to pull up recipe cards—or find the physical copies since we’re always short staffed. i always mean to do it before i leave, but i always forget since i’m ready to gtfo. hopefully i’ll remember to check tomorrow morning when i go to work lol
biggest one is cold brews. i know the sweet cream cold brew/cb’s with foam get half pumps. but i use full pumps for regular cold brews (so a venti cold brew with sf vanilla, i’d use the 6 hot bar pumps). i’ve asked my shifts, but they’re divided on it too and my sm isn’t around enough to get her answer.
second this is layered fraps. person a insists mocha cookie gets mocha sauce on the bottom with whip, no crumbles, and just crumbles/drizzle/whip on top. and caramel crunches get dark caramel, whip, and crunch topping on the bottom. drizzle and crunch topping on the top with whip.
i always do whip and crumbles on the bottom for the MC frap, and crumbles, whip and mocha drizzle on top. for the CRCF i do whip and dark caramel on the bottom, whip, caramel drizzle and crunch topping on top. this is how i was trained by my old SM (10 yr partner) when i started.
everytime i insist on checking recipe cards (i’m often on bar when they start complaining about drink standards while they’re standing on dto scrolling through their phone) they just tell me they’ve been a partner for x amount of years and know it all by heart. if i’m on bar i don’t have time to run to the back and grab an ipad to pull up recipe cards—or find the physical copies since we’re always short staffed. i always mean to do it before i leave, but i always forget since i’m ready to gtfo. hopefully i’ll remember to check tomorrow morning when i go to work lol
ihateyousoymatcha 14 points 1y ago
As far as I'm aware, you're doing everything correctly.
Named Cold Brews, with a syrup in the drink title like VSCCB or Salted Caramel, get half dose pumps.
On a CBS pump, this is normal pumps of 3/4/6. On a full pump it's 1/2/3/4 because Starbucks rounds up to prevent inconsistency from pushing the pump halfway down, but standard Cold Brew with added syrups is full pumps.
You're making both layered fraps correctly too, according to the recipe cards we have.
Mocha cookie is misrepresented in pictures because it shows mocha sauce at the bottom, but the recipe cards only list whip and crumbles at the bottom. Caramel ribbon only gets whip and dark Caramel at the bottom.
Don't let them bully you around this. They have the same resources available to review recipes, and it's not your problem they aren't utilizing them. If they try to correct you, you can say with certainty that you are making these drinks to standard, and they can check the recipe cards if they don't accept that.
Not only are they making drinks wrong, they are coaching others to do so as well. If this is a persistent issue, I strongly suggest bringing it up with your SM. It doesn't matter who's beena partner longer. Recipes can change and they need to learn some humility.
Named Cold Brews, with a syrup in the drink title like VSCCB or Salted Caramel, get half dose pumps.
On a CBS pump, this is normal pumps of 3/4/6. On a full pump it's 1/2/3/4 because Starbucks rounds up to prevent inconsistency from pushing the pump halfway down, but standard Cold Brew with added syrups is full pumps.
You're making both layered fraps correctly too, according to the recipe cards we have.
Mocha cookie is misrepresented in pictures because it shows mocha sauce at the bottom, but the recipe cards only list whip and crumbles at the bottom. Caramel ribbon only gets whip and dark Caramel at the bottom.
Don't let them bully you around this. They have the same resources available to review recipes, and it's not your problem they aren't utilizing them. If they try to correct you, you can say with certainty that you are making these drinks to standard, and they can check the recipe cards if they don't accept that.
Not only are they making drinks wrong, they are coaching others to do so as well. If this is a persistent issue, I strongly suggest bringing it up with your SM. It doesn't matter who's beena partner longer. Recipes can change and they need to learn some humility.
5AV1OR 3 points 1y ago
This comment is everything, I am a nine month partner and just as much as I ask my 5+ year partners about standards they ask me, does not matter how long you’ve been there we all forget and remember certain standards and we all need to be open to being wrong!
Specialist_Salt_507 1 points 1y ago
I’ve read the recipe card for VSCCB and SCCCB and they are both full pumps.
ihateyousoymatcha 1 points 1y ago
Yes, as I said, **on a full pump** it's 1/2/3/4. This is **half** of the standard 3/4/6/7 full dose pumps. They have been updating recipe cards to show full pumps because of the confusion it's causing.
Starbucks rounds up decimals to prevent inconsistency from pushing full pumps half way down. Otherwise it would be 1.5 / 2 / 3 / 3.5
This is also visible in frappuccino recipes where full pumps are 1/2/2 and half pumps are 2/3/4, because that 3 half dose is 1.5 full.
If there is a half dose pump available, .5 decimal can be accurately measured by doing 3/4/6/7 pumps. The result is slightly different amounts for Tall and Trenta
Starbucks rounds up decimals to prevent inconsistency from pushing full pumps half way down. Otherwise it would be 1.5 / 2 / 3 / 3.5
This is also visible in frappuccino recipes where full pumps are 1/2/2 and half pumps are 2/3/4, because that 3 half dose is 1.5 full.
If there is a half dose pump available, .5 decimal can be accurately measured by doing 3/4/6/7 pumps. The result is slightly different amounts for Tall and Trenta
Specialist_Salt_507 1 points 1y ago
It’s not clear by your post because you start by saying the cold brew drinks get half dose and then you say full dose is standard which I feel is causing confusion for people who don’t know how what the standard is.
Your reference to Frappuccinos isn’t great because matcha frapps get 2/3/4 full dose pumps of classic.
Also how is op making it cold brew drinks correctly by putting 6 full pumps in a venti
Your reference to Frappuccinos isn’t great because matcha frapps get 2/3/4 full dose pumps of classic.
Also how is op making it cold brew drinks correctly by putting 6 full pumps in a venti
ihateyousoymatcha 0 points 1y ago
**EDIT: They've updated the standard at some point in the last year and this is no longer accurate!**
*~~There is a major difference here I don't think you're realising. I can try to clarify but I feel me previous comments have been specific about this. It's not about which pump you're using, it's about the amount of syrup being added for each recipe.~~*
Standard syrup pumps, for espresso bar, are 2/3/4/5/6 for Venti iced/7
~~Named~~ cold brews (with a syrup in the title) are half the standard syrup. This can be done as 1/2/3/4 full pumps~~, OR 3/4/6/7 half pumps.~~
~~A standard Cold Brew with added syrup is given standard full pumps as 3/4/6/7. So a Venti iced cold Brew will indeed get 6 full pumps.~~
Matcha Frappuccinos have a non-standard recipe and are an exception.
*~~There is a major difference here I don't think you're realising. I can try to clarify but I feel me previous comments have been specific about this. It's not about which pump you're using, it's about the amount of syrup being added for each recipe.~~*
Standard syrup pumps, for espresso bar, are 2/3/4/5/6 for Venti iced/7
~~Named~~ cold brews (with a syrup in the title) are half the standard syrup. This can be done as 1/2/3/4 full pumps~~, OR 3/4/6/7 half pumps.~~
~~A standard Cold Brew with added syrup is given standard full pumps as 3/4/6/7. So a Venti iced cold Brew will indeed get 6 full pumps.~~
Matcha Frappuccinos have a non-standard recipe and are an exception.
Thee_Lizard_Head 3 points 1y ago
Unless the customer specifies it should always be full dose pumps in any brews (other than the ones with added cold foams). Or if they specify.
Cookie crumble and ribbon crunch are exactly as YOU said. Whip on bottom and cookie crumbles/whip on bottom and pumps of dark caramel. Then drizzle and crumbles on top for crumble/regular drizzle and crunches for ribbon.
Been a partner for over 10 years so yeah your SSVs are incorrect.
Cookie crumble and ribbon crunch are exactly as YOU said. Whip on bottom and cookie crumbles/whip on bottom and pumps of dark caramel. Then drizzle and crumbles on top for crumble/regular drizzle and crunches for ribbon.
Been a partner for over 10 years so yeah your SSVs are incorrect.
ihateyousoymatcha 3 points 1y ago
--*"Unless the customer specifies it should always be full dose pumps in any brews (other than the ones with added cold foams). Or if they specify."*
This is true for iced teas too, isn't it? LCS is always half dose but any other syrup is full pumps?
This is true for iced teas too, isn't it? LCS is always half dose but any other syrup is full pumps?
Thee_Lizard_Head 1 points 1y ago
Should be yes!
csaine 2 points 1y ago
I always tell partners that if they have questions about drink recipes that they should check the iPad as it has the most up to date versions of our recipes. Since they like to sometimes change them it doesn't hurt to look.
boxinghamster16 2 points 1y ago
We have had both of these debates in my store. You are right on both counts. We even reached out to corporate on the cold brew one because the recipe cards weren't exactly clear on it. Stick to your guns and make them check the recipe cards about the layered Frappuccinos.
Specialist_Salt_507 1 points 1y ago
Every recipe card for cold brew drinks I’ve read says it’s gets full pumps of syrup in the cold brew to the amount of T-1/G-2/V-3/Tr-4. The recipe card for plain cold brew does not tell you what the syrup modifier is, but the nitro cold brew does say that the syrup modifier is full pumps and it’s T-1 and G-2. I figure plain cold brew must also be full pumps at T-1/G-2/V-3/Tr-4.
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