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Equivalent-Gur-631867 points1y ago
Wow, whoever wrote this must be hot and woke and definitely not me 👀
Voxxyvoo16 points1y ago
Oh so that’s what that paper was? I was cleaning the back room in a hurry and found it fallen on the floor so I just kind of binned it
PunishedTitan10 points1y ago
Don’t believe everything you read you say?
philosopher_cat_lady9 points1y ago
God, Starbucks is fucking evil
DeeEnn729 points1y ago
Yes, just because other places are worse, doesn’t mean Starbucks is good.
mckanoot9 points1y ago
I'm all for unions but what did partners united do? You can't let the good guys get away with shitty things either
Comfortable-Plane94440 points1y ago
Lol they didn’t do anything. Starbucks is claiming that safety was compromised at a rally. Which in reality. Was not.
mckanoot10 points1y ago
Got it. Man starbucks really grasping at straws smh. Go union!
Levinem7178 points1y ago
I just got fired for talking about unions.
Standard-Pin12071 points1y ago
Impossible. I'm sure there's more to the story. The moment this happened you should've called a lawyer and sued friend. There's no legal precedence to back that.
nonogender1 points1y ago
not everyone can afford to hire a lawyer or sue a corporation
Standard-Pin1207-1 points1y ago
Yeah.. I won't even try to explain how it works to someone who clearly doesn't know how the legal system works.
nonogender1 points1y ago
? a quick google search tells me it's ~ $100-$400 an hour to hire a lawyer. how was my comment wrong lol
Maleficent_Beyond6651 points1y ago
Would you be able to say a little more?
Levinem7173 points1y ago
Yup, started talking about unions about 3 months ago and then a few weeks ago had more of an argument with a coworker, so they started a paper trail on Covid pre checks I missed for partners and as soon as I hit two, they fired me
Maleficent_Beyond6651 points1y ago
Oh my god. I am so sorry to hear that. Yet another victim of Starbucks' predatory behavior. Hoping you've found better employment
Levinem7171 points1y ago
Not yet :( but looking!
RareLingonberry7 points1y ago
Also they failed to mention that Starbucks is currently being sued by the NLRB (an agency of the federal government) in two separate law suits for violating workers right related to unionization.
tras5292 points1y ago
Ugh we had an all store meeting with our DM this past Friday and it was an absolute shit show. They handed out papers with the “facts” and it was so bad. Good luck to you guys, solidarity ✊🏻
supersexycauliflower2 points1y ago
Eli5?
KaoriLikesWatari18 points1y ago
Starbucks sees that it’s slowly losing its grasp over it’s workers now that Unions are becoming more popular and working. To attempt to counter this, they’re saying that they’ve seen negative actions being made in the name of Unions and want to help those poor baristas being affected by them. They’re taking a very small example of something bad and happening very minimally and claiming that in the name of all the partners, are willing to fight this evil Union to protect us :)
supersexycauliflower3 points1y ago
Thank you for responding kindly!! Appreciate you taking the time to help me understand.
tbb100 points1y ago
I feel like everyone has this fantasy dream of how great unions are. I’ve been in two unions making less than Starbucks little to no raises some good and some no option benefits. Turnover rate in both were extremely high. Kept out of the loop for contract bargaining until voting day. Only thing I’ve really noticed they’re good for is if you get fired. They fight to bring you back, which doesn’t matter if you’re a good employee. One of my union jobs makes less than other non union jobs in the same job type, not saying because of our union, but clearly they’re not helping as much as we’d like. One company I worked for gave a higher raise to non union departments after our union “fought” for our raise.
I’m not saying unions were never good. But we’ve reached a point where they’re not as useful as they used to be because we have a lot of labor laws now, some because of past unions, that
kxshmar5 points1y ago
I mean the reasons you gave here basically say that the company did something to boycott the union, by raising non union pay, not that unions aren’t effective
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no0dles130-8 points1y ago
I never hear one good thing that comes from a union. Remember when police unions were protecting bad cops? Our public education is so great run by teachers union. Public transport is so reliable cause they are unionized. You get a union member a seat at the table but not your voice. Whether your voice is heard by the union once they get your vote is heard or not is going to be up to the union.
kxshmar10 points1y ago
You know the unions job is not to make services better right? Thats the company’s job! Unions protect workers, they dont make public transport better lol
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Equivalent-Gur-63182 points1y ago
Source? Genuinely curious
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soundfanatic22 points1y ago
I have worked MULTIPLE customer service jobs throughout my life, both small business and billion dollar corporate, HOWEVER you are missing the big picture here. the "best" slave wage provider is still providing slave wages and horrible working conditions so "investors" can reap the benefits of our labor while we can't even afford the gas to get to work. this is a BILLION-DOLLAR COMPANY that boasts record breaking profits each year. where did all of that money come from? our wages? cut benefits? price hikes and "labor shortages"?
and how many partners do you know who have 2+ jobs outside of starbucks? how many partners have deliberately been put in danger by unsafe working conditions? how many times has management broke protocol and kept stores open during covid outbreaks and contaminated water events because profit was more important than customer health and safety? how often are you faced with "labor cuts" that leave you short staffed, overworked, doing the job of 3 baristas, and all during peak where you have a packed lobby full of angry customers and a drive thru line that wraps around your parking lot for hours? how many times have your openers walked into a trashed store because closers didn't have the support they needed?
if you are personally fine with being exploited so a billionaire CEO can buy himself a new mega yacht/private jet/etc., that's fine, but don't you dare come in here being condescending to people who are tired of being treated like shit by a company whose entire PR campaign is based off of what a "great" place to work it is.
corporate heads can afford to give themselves and their lawyers $100 million dollar golden parachutes, bleed tens of millions of dollars in legal fees each week in union busting efforts, but they can't afford to pay us a living wage? they can't afford to let us keep covid pay when we are deliberately exposed and forced to get sick AT WORK? they can afford to not break us and burn us out, so why are they still choosing to attack our efforts to stand up for ourselves and hold starbucks accountable to its own values?
don't even get me started on that garbage health insurance they "offer" but do their best to make sure you can't take advantage of.
anyway tl;dr i'm not ok with being treated like i'm not a human being who needs to live, and you need to realize your experience isn't universal.
Thee_Lizard_Head-2 points1y ago
I never said my experience was universal, thats exactly why I said it's a store to store/district to district issue and not an entire company wide issue. You can transfer to a place that's better. Shitty managers exist across all jobs. I obviously haven't had a store experience close to anything I've read here in the posts on the sub and understand how fortunate I am, but I've also done my research and had my head up and alert on stores and districts to avoid so I know I'm landing in. the right place. I'm just being proactive.
And yeah our insurance is so shitty that my $1000 per lense contacts were paid with a $35 copay despite multiple doctors telling me I'd most likely have to pay out of pocket. .Not to mention the surgery options I also had that would have been fully covered that I decided to forgo.
I'm not trying to be condescending, I just feel like everyone is expecting it to not be a job and its supposed to be some vacation where you get paid to have fun all the time.
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venusiangirl12 points1y ago
I don’t think you’re entirely wrong about us being better than most places but unionizing could solve problems like ensuring we keep our benefits long-term, reducing turnover, and protecting us from being fired at any time for any reason. Other than union dues which are a very small price to pay I don’t see how it would be a negative for us. Right now our benefits can be taken away any moment or changed, which is what has happened several times since covid, in many places we are not allowed to stay over or pick up shifts unless there are labor hours for it, so our hours are still severely limited and people who want badly to work can’t. Just because we have it better than most doesn’t mean we can’t make it better? A lot of people want to stay at Starbucks longterm to go to school like with ASU but it’s not a sustainable longterm job. If anything, unionizing will turn Starbucks into a typical part-time first job for a 16 year old into a reliable, stable job for people who need to support themselves through school or help support their families. It may be farfetched but there’s no reason not to try.
Thee_Lizard_Head-2 points1y ago
Idk about protection from being fired at any time. I definitely worked at a store across from a grocery store where they told me the horrors of their union and how people were fired on the spot for barely being out of dress code or having dirty clothes worn at work. It's not always a full proof system and the transition into a union is not going to be so smooth and sunshine and rainbows. It's going to be VERY ugly before it gets better.
Edit: Thank you for being a bit more reasonable than the others here btw. Like I already posted I knew this wasn't going to get the best reception.
philosopher_cat_lady11 points1y ago
I didn't like whom I was working with, and I talked to my SM and my DM about it. I wasn't allowed to transfer. I had no choice but to quit because a year of verbal abuse from a coworker caused me to become mentally ill. Then I've been marked as not rehireable for "no teamwork with partners."
But I guess I'm the only one who had something like this happen to them because Starbucks is a wonderful company and my managers were bad apples. \s\
dankmobile5 points1y ago
just because worse places exist, doesn’t mean we can’t ask for better.
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