don’t wanna mess up your final edition : strawberry and crème frappuccino also has classic /.\
but overall , this is beautiful
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]17 points1y ago
That doesn't mess anything up! ❤️
I have another page for recipies, this one is just for the standard numbers of pumps and shots for each *type* of drink.
Matcha Frappuccino only gets mentioned here because it isn't made with the standard pumps for Frappuccinos. All the others (including strawberry) get 1/2/2 full pumps of whatever syrup is in it :)
SatanicPisces3 points1y ago
wait for real? i thought it didn’t come with classic. the app doesn’t say it does but it does for matcha. weird
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]8 points1y ago
It's listed on the recipe card, and if you go into the nutrition information on the app or website it lists Classic as one of the ingredients.
wow! thank you! i’m glad i know now because i’ve only been a partner for 3 weeks and today i made a strawberry crm frap without classic syrup so oops sorry to whoever i made that for :/
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]7 points1y ago
Honestly half my store just found out it has classic 😂
This job is a constant learning process, and they change the recipes all the time too so it's good to review every now and then.
I made frap roast with hot water my first six months.
saltandseasmoke2 points1y ago
I'm wondering if this might have changed with summer launch? Training said they changed around how strawberry purée is listed for the app (it's light / extra now instead of what it used to be, scoops or pumps? something weird) and I'm wondering if they also changed the s&c recipe. My ASM told me today it shouldn't get classic anymore, so i checked the app and sure enough, classic isn't on there.
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]1 points1y ago
If you go into the nutrition information on the app or website, classic syrup is still listed as an ingredient.
When in doubt, check the POS because I haven't read summer launch yet and they change recipes all the bloody time!
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]16 points1y ago
THANK YOU to everyone who helped evaluate the first draft!
Due to confusion and some clarifications, I've ultimately decided to remove the half pump dosage on drinks. Starbucks is transitioning to full pumps in it's recipies so half pumps are only necessary for 3 specific syrups!
Calsan13 points1y ago
Can you supply any kind of source for the brown sugar/toasted vanilla syrups needing half pumps specifically? I've always thought they were half-pumps because of the fact that they were only standard in shaken espressos, not because of the syrups that they were. I've been making lattes when people ask for them with double the half-doses because of that, and if I'm doing it wrong, I'd love to know. I've looked for confirmation and I can't find anything anywhere.
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]3 points1y ago
The SMs in my district got in contact with someone on the Beverage Crafting team who confirmed we don't need to double the pumps. I'll DM you the screenshot
It's the same for Liquid Cane, but for that one we actually have an example for a hot drink. The English Breakfast Tea Latte recipe card specifically lists the pumps in half dose.
Calsan11 points1y ago
I'd really appreciate that! If I'm doing something wrong I'd really like to know about it.
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]2 points1y ago
Sent. Let me know if that clears it up for you! This has been a pretty common topic in our district so we finally went up the chain to ask
dlcksuck8 points1y ago
I thought frap syrup pumps was 2,3,4?
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]3 points1y ago
2/3/4 is accurate for half pumps (also called CBS or cold bar pumps) if you have them. That's what the standard used to be!
Starbucks is transitioning most recipes to full pumps, and they round decimals up to reduce the inconsistency of pushing a pump halfway down.
Since 3 half pumps is 1.5 full pumps, they just bumped it to 2. Hence the 1/2/2 listed on newer recipe cards.
This had me all sorts of messed up until we put full pumps on the cold bar caramel and vanilla bottles.
dlcksuck1 points1y ago
That makes sense and that’s what I figured but when did we start transitioning to full pumps? My store and all the ones in my district have half pumps for cold bar still
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]3 points1y ago
We do too, but all the recipes coming out are listed in full pump dosage. I don't think they ever told us they were changing it
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]2 points1y ago
I should clarify, the base and scoops are both still 2/3/4!
Just the syrups were converted from 2/3/4 CBS to 1/2/2 full dose
Dang it now I gotta go add base to the frap section
ToritoBurito3 points1y ago
If I’m not mistaken, nitro cold brews don’t actually get any syrup by standard. You may want to make a note of that if I’m correct :)
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]3 points1y ago
You're right! These are all just the pumps numbers for if it comes with one, or if someone adds a syrup to a drink. Same with cold brews, lattes, etc.
I didn't specify any particular syrup because we've got recipes on another channel :)
-Zispy1 points1y ago
So if someone adds a syrup to a cold brew, it gets half the amount? I always thought it was 3t 4g 6v if it doesn’t specify
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]2 points1y ago
It used to be that way, they changed it 😭
All Cold Brews (w/ milk, VSCCB, SCCB, plain cb) get 1/2/3/4 now.
I spent a whole 10 minutes ranting about this and showing my coworkers on the POS. They gotta stop changing things without telling us
Ordinary-Theory-82892 points1y ago
I don’t understand why they make these arbitrary changes. Then they wanna cry about inconsistency between stores. Also, what about all the customers who have been ordering a cold brew with x syrup for years, and all of a sudden they’re gonna get it and it’s gonna be half as sweet, setting us up to have to remake drinks and kill drive times when the customer is happy with their drink
greenChainsaws3 points1y ago
wait we have a discord??
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]5 points1y ago
It's not an official Starbucks things, just something we're putting together for our newer partners 😂
When it's finished I might share it, but it's got a long ways to go
greenChainsaws1 points1y ago
i like your store now
criedtrying2 points1y ago
so the iced shaken espressos get half pumps? for example a venti would get 3 instead of 6?
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]2 points1y ago
Yup. This is specifically listed on the recipe cards for all shaken espressos.
roovols2 points1y ago
does your store have a discord???????
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]3 points1y ago
My store still uses Slack, we just started building the Discord. :)
roovols1 points1y ago
you are one lucky fella
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]2 points1y ago
It's mostly read only, just a condensed version of some standars people are struggling with.
Now this page is done I'll be working on the Beverage Routine one 😂
darkwolf5232 points1y ago
I got confused why Vi was there
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]7 points1y ago
It's just a short notation for Venti Iced, to show the difference between hot and iced ;)
darkwolf5232 points1y ago
Yeah I figured it out 😂
Status-Ad-38931 points1y ago
Flat white is 2,2,3,3,4 if iced venti!
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]1 points1y ago
Yup! I have that mentioned under the Latte Shots.
Since it's one additional shot from standard (1/1/2/2/3 for V.iced), I didn't think it needed it's own shot count. Do you think it's better to separate it?
Status-Ad-38931 points1y ago
I would since I didn’t see that you had it on there at first, but that’s just me
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]1 points1y ago
This is just a general guide for after training, but I'll keep it in mind just in case the green beans ask about it consistently. Thanks for the feedback!
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How-Inconvenient1 points1y ago
Our store does frappe syrup pumps T/G/V 2/3/4
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]1 points1y ago
On the shorter half dose pumps that's correct! But most stores don't have the half pumps in all their syrups. Full size pumps just get 1/2/2 since they're updating recipes to be in full pump measurements :)
Frap roast, Base and scoops are still 2/3/3
Ordinary-Economist-71 points1y ago
Do all shaken espressos get half pumps or just the brown sugar?
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]2 points1y ago
All the Shaken Espressos :)
You can triple check the recipe cards, the specify half dose pumps.
You can probably keep doing it and no one will notice 😂
There's already more sugar than green tea powder in our matcha
-Zispy1 points1y ago
Lol. I know right
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Pylon-Cam1 points1y ago
The cold brew and nitro cold brew sections are technically accurate, but confusing. Those are the correct pump amounts for cold brews that automatically get syrup, such as the VSCCB or the SCCB.
However, if a customer ordered a regular cold brew and added a syrup, the standard would be to use the regular full dose syrup pumps *e.g. a grande cold brew would get four pumps of the syrup they ordered by default*
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]2 points1y ago
I thought that too, because that's how it used to be!
They updated the cold brew standards at some point without informing us, or we missed the communication.
Confirmed on POS this morning, if you ring a standard cold brew in and go through the sizes, the syrup will go 1/2/3/4. It's infuriating.
drinkliquidclocks1 points1y ago
Licensed barista question- if I get a Brown Sugar latte from Starbucks, will they give me half pumps even though it’s a latte?
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]1 points1y ago
My district reached out to the corporate beverage crafting team, this reference is based on the confirmation given to the SMs in my area.
They haven't released any documentation about this in store resources, so everyone has been interpreting it differently.
At this point it depends entirely on the store and the barista.
drinkliquidclocks1 points1y ago
I see, it’s really inconsistent but it seems like when I get it from any store besides my own, it’s not as sweet. I’ll have to specify next time.
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]1 points1y ago
Yup, the other stores are probably using half dose then. You can have them double the brown sugar or specify full pumps!
Necessary_Low9391 points1y ago
My store doesn’t even have half pumps lol and the customers are so used to the full pumps that when I divide the full pumps by 2, they complain 🤷🏻♀️
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]1 points1y ago
It one of things they didn't give enough information on when they released the drinks. The shaken espresso have recipe cards, but there wasn't enough guidance around putting the syrups in other drinks.
We got clarification for our district and were already doing it this way beforehand, so it works for us, but they still haven't released anything in store resources yet so I doubt anyone's gonna care :)
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]1 points1y ago
It's not something I'll argue over, this is just the method my area got verified by someone in Beverage Crafting
Necessary_Low9391 points1y ago
I’m saying my store doesn’t physically have the half pumps and they don’t follow anything the rules so it makes people who usually follow the rules seem like they don’t know anything (this is not my first store.)
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]1 points1y ago
Oof, that's rough.
It's something the company could fix by just making all drinks the standard syrup pumps. Customers are already used to changing the pumps however they want to make it more or less sweet.
Necessary_Low9391 points1y ago
Starbucks can’t even get their slogan right. Making the moment right or making drinks to standard? Which one is it? They won’t be able to get the pumps right either.
Poem-of-petrichor1 points1y ago
Omg this looks amazing and a great refresher for us all !! How could we join this discord sever if possible ?
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]2 points1y ago
When we get all the pages cleaned up and finished, I'll copy it to a new server and share it on here. Might be a while before it's done though 😂
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aelineas1 points1y ago
What's the standard for tea lattes and Honey Citrus? I was told HCMT gets 2 full pumps regardless of size 🤔
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]5 points1y ago
Tea Lattes get standard full dose syrup pumps!
English Breakfast Tea Latte is sweetened with LCS, which should always have a half dose pump on the bottle, but you still push it the standard number of times. (2/3/4/5)
Honey Citrus is a non-standard drink, 1/1/2/2 for S/T/G/V. This is based on the number of honey packets we used to use before there was a syrup. 🍯
Status-Ad-38931 points1y ago
Tea lattes and honey citrus are 1,1,2,2
LilacFlores-2 points1y ago
I’m almost 99% sure that Venti Hot Americanos get only 3 shots.
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]2 points1y ago
Venti Americanos and Shaken Espresso both get 4 shots! :)
A lot of people have been trained that Americanos just get an extra shot, but this is incorrect. Short only gets 1 shot, and Venti (both hot and iced) get 4
You can fact check the shots box on the POS when you ring it in. I always encourage people to do this and go through the sizes to see how amounts change.
Ordinary-Theory-82891 points1y ago
Americanos add a shot for every size
justalurker5555-2 points1y ago
I’m confused why syrups are listed under half dose pumps. A brown sugar latte would need full dose pumps for example
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]4 points1y ago
Nope! Those three syrups should only have a half pump on the bottle, and that pump gets used for all drinks.
The SMs in my district got in contact with someone on the Beverage Crafting team who confirmed we don't need to double the pumps. I'll DM you the screenshot
It's the same for Liquid Cane, but for that one we actually have an example for a hot drink. The English Breakfast Tea Latte recipe card specifically lists the LCS pumps as half dose
justalurker55551 points1y ago
That is objectively terrible (not you; this alleged standard). We have a recipe card based on drinks, not flavors, and the latte card calls for 3/4/5(6) full pumps for all lattes.
ihateyousoymatcha [OP]2 points1y ago
And yet EBTL specifically says half dose pumps of LCS
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For me, that and the message from the bev team was all the confirmation I needed. It actually makes sense to me, but my store has been doing it all along because of how LCS has always been treated. The thought of putting full dose LCS in anything is horrifying to me.
I don't think anyone cares if people want to keep doubling it at this point, because it's so inconsistent across the company. But as far as my district is concerned, we only use the half pumps.
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