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i need help :( does anyone know the rules around this? what should i say to my manager? advice? (self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by BrushWeak106
i’m a 16yo highschool student and i got hired a couple weeks ago. so far i’ve really come to adjust nicely and i finally feel really comfortable at my store. i love the job, i love the perks, i love my coworkers, i love making the drinks! i love everything about this job seriously. but i’m a highschool student and i CONSISTENTLY get 20 hours per week.
i don’t need the money, i am fortunate enough to be fully supported by my parents. i’m simply working, because i like to work, and for the experience.
i’ve recently tried to connect with my manager about how i’ve been struggling managing this job alongside my schoolwork- which is my priority. he dismissed me, and basically told me how my hours are not unreasonable.
for the first time ever, im failing a class, so alongside my extra curriculars, this job isn’t looking worth it. especially with exams coming up.
i am burned out. seriously.
but i’m so torn because i REALLY love the job and would hate to leave. especially because there are only 5 more weeks until school is out for the summer and i’d have no other responsibilities. but my grades are stuggling and i’m really burned out.
so my question is, WHAT DO I DO! what can i say to my manager? should i just quit? is he allowed to give me less hours than 20 per week? what’s the minimum?
please please let me know.
i don’t need the money, i am fortunate enough to be fully supported by my parents. i’m simply working, because i like to work, and for the experience.
i’ve recently tried to connect with my manager about how i’ve been struggling managing this job alongside my schoolwork- which is my priority. he dismissed me, and basically told me how my hours are not unreasonable.
for the first time ever, im failing a class, so alongside my extra curriculars, this job isn’t looking worth it. especially with exams coming up.
i am burned out. seriously.
but i’m so torn because i REALLY love the job and would hate to leave. especially because there are only 5 more weeks until school is out for the summer and i’d have no other responsibilities. but my grades are stuggling and i’m really burned out.
so my question is, WHAT DO I DO! what can i say to my manager? should i just quit? is he allowed to give me less hours than 20 per week? what’s the minimum?
please please let me know.
PAINED_EARS 10 points 1y ago
I honestly cant think of any good solid pieces of advice or any scripts right now because I am sleepy as of writing this, but do you think it could be possible to offer shifts up to some older coworkers? I'm 18 and gain most of my hours through taking up shifts when they're offered.
He is absolutely allowed to give you less than 20h, I'd know cause we just hired ANOTHER person and I'm down to 14 lolz. I don't think there is a minimum. Reminder that 40 of your hours are spent on school grounds not to mention the dozens of hours going into home assignments and studying. Thats over 60 hours of your week dedicated to... certainly not yourself. His expectations are unreasonable. You could consider contacting partner resources. You said you're financially stable outside of work, and if you don't need the money then its not worth sacrificing yourself for. There are better jobs out there :) Do you know of any good local coffee shops? I hear the experience is a lot more chill and authentic than any starbux could ever replicate. You deserve respect and accommodation just like literally every other employee. It sounds like he's doting on the fact that you're younger and more afraid of authority than say, a 23 year old is. Don't be
He is absolutely allowed to give you less than 20h, I'd know cause we just hired ANOTHER person and I'm down to 14 lolz. I don't think there is a minimum. Reminder that 40 of your hours are spent on school grounds not to mention the dozens of hours going into home assignments and studying. Thats over 60 hours of your week dedicated to... certainly not yourself. His expectations are unreasonable. You could consider contacting partner resources. You said you're financially stable outside of work, and if you don't need the money then its not worth sacrificing yourself for. There are better jobs out there :) Do you know of any good local coffee shops? I hear the experience is a lot more chill and authentic than any starbux could ever replicate. You deserve respect and accommodation just like literally every other employee. It sounds like he's doting on the fact that you're younger and more afraid of authority than say, a 23 year old is. Don't be
iridescenttalk 6 points 1y ago
i think tell your manager that in these next 5weeks you’ll be super busy w school and would like to go down to “x” amount of hours. if he doesn’t wanna listen, i’d apply to stores nearby, wait til i get hired, and quit the current job. minors can work a *max* of 20 hours/wk but that doesn’t mean he has to schedule the max for you every week. if he’s being unreasonable do not stay there.
your grades + school will always be more important than starbucks!
your grades + school will always be more important than starbucks!
baebaebluebird 5 points 1y ago
School is your priority and you have major exams coming up so either he gives you less hours or you can’t work anymore. You’ll have the rest of your adult life to work after you graduate high school so don’t put the job over your education right now. Especially if your parents are supportive of you. But yea he definitely can give you less then 20 he’s just not wanting to. Stay strong and don’t get intimidated! Just be as professional as you can.
If it’s an at will state. You don’t even need to put a notice in
If it’s an at will state. You don’t even need to put a notice in
Mea-fae_Owl73 4 points 1y ago
Change your availability ASAP. Make it for exactly how many hours you want. If you only want 4hr shifts, only 12hrs a week then have your availability reflect that. If he has a conversation with you about it let him know that since he dismissed you this was the only option since your grades are being affected. Also get your parents involved. They have a lot of power over the manager. Stuff that managers can usually bully or get away with don’t fly when parents are involved.
felinefireghost 2 points 1y ago
I have to agree here. You can open your availability back up when school is out. It is not worth it to fail your classes and stress yourself out ESPECIALLY when you don’t need the money. You will learn as you continue on in the workforce that you will never matter to a corporation- you are there to fill the needs of the business and they do not care about you, only their bottom line. It’s just the reality of capitalism. Learn now, at this time in your life, how to set boundaries with your employers. You ALWAYS come first- your health, your family, your education… always. It doesn’t matter what company you work for, they are not going to look out for your needs. I promise you. YOU have to be your own advocate. You can develop a strong work ethic while still maintaining healthy boundaries. Knowing when to stand up for yourself is part of learning the work/life balance.
Your manager can hire another person or give others more hours. He can figure it out, he just doesn’t want to and doesn’t expect you to do anything about it. So prove him wrong, and show him you’re going to do something about it.
I spent way too many years bending over backwards for companies, and when I was sick or having a nervous breakdown from working too much- they were not there to help me. I had to take the unpaid leave, I had to pay for the hospital visits, I had to cancel on whatever plans I had because “the store nEeDs mE” (that’s me making fun of myself.) it took me many years to learn that I am allowed a work/life balance, and the store will survive should I need to put myself first sometimes. Again, start practicing these boundaries now.
This post struck a chord with me, sorry.
Your manager can hire another person or give others more hours. He can figure it out, he just doesn’t want to and doesn’t expect you to do anything about it. So prove him wrong, and show him you’re going to do something about it.
I spent way too many years bending over backwards for companies, and when I was sick or having a nervous breakdown from working too much- they were not there to help me. I had to take the unpaid leave, I had to pay for the hospital visits, I had to cancel on whatever plans I had because “the store nEeDs mE” (that’s me making fun of myself.) it took me many years to learn that I am allowed a work/life balance, and the store will survive should I need to put myself first sometimes. Again, start practicing these boundaries now.
This post struck a chord with me, sorry.
persona-2 1 points 1y ago
This is 100% the way to get 0-4 hours a week.
If that’s the goal go for it. If not please don’t do this.
If that’s the goal go for it. If not please don’t do this.
Torirock10 4 points 1y ago
i get like 8 hours a week so yes you can definitely give someone less than 20. unless u want benefits like the college and all that, then u can work less than 20 a week. maybe change ur availability or smth since ur manager won’t listen when u speak to him. but tbh i’d also maybe look into transferring if you can , if ur boss is gonna keep being a dick. ur school is more important than a fun job u don’t need
twirlylilchungis 4 points 1y ago
First of all, I’m sorry your manager is not taking your concerns seriously. I had that problem and asked for less hours and my manager was super understanding so this is so frustrating to hear! Honestly if they continue to dismiss you, I would change my availability to include less days.
Latter-Guava-4734 2 points 1y ago
A bit late to the party here. As far as I’m concerned though they should be allowed to give under 20 hours, I’ve known people who got under 10 only working weekends. You just might not be eligible for certain benefits at the end of the quarter since it averages around 20 hours a week.
I’ve been in your shoes before with my other job. I was in college and had to go between work, school, and clinical hours. I basically failed my first term because I felt like I had too much on my plate, second term comes along and I had quit my job so I could focus more on school. It didn’t end up working out for me and now I’m at Starbucks while taking a break from college.
Seeing as how you are in high school though, your manager should be willing to work with you more. I’m so sorry you’re having this trouble. I think if I were in your shoes I would just bite the bullet, either request some time off if you can to try to maybe focus on exams and studying (might have to be a few weeks in the future though) or change your schedule and maybe see if someone else at your store could pick up some of your shifts. School should be the top priority over working, and if your education is struggling you need to put that into priority. Let him/her know that you need to focus on upcoming exams and that when the summer comes you will open your availability back up. If they don’t listen that’s up to you, personally I might just hand in my notice and try to find another store or job, but once again that might not be what you want to do.
I’ve been in your shoes before with my other job. I was in college and had to go between work, school, and clinical hours. I basically failed my first term because I felt like I had too much on my plate, second term comes along and I had quit my job so I could focus more on school. It didn’t end up working out for me and now I’m at Starbucks while taking a break from college.
Seeing as how you are in high school though, your manager should be willing to work with you more. I’m so sorry you’re having this trouble. I think if I were in your shoes I would just bite the bullet, either request some time off if you can to try to maybe focus on exams and studying (might have to be a few weeks in the future though) or change your schedule and maybe see if someone else at your store could pick up some of your shifts. School should be the top priority over working, and if your education is struggling you need to put that into priority. Let him/her know that you need to focus on upcoming exams and that when the summer comes you will open your availability back up. If they don’t listen that’s up to you, personally I might just hand in my notice and try to find another store or job, but once again that might not be what you want to do.
healthypenguins 1 points 1y ago
As a minor, 20 hours is literally the maximum they are supposed to schedule you during the school year. It is quite unreasonable to max you out if you’ve asked them not to.
As others have said, change your availability. If you have paper forms available, fill that out as well and clearly mark that you’re only available for 12-15 hours a week (or whatever your preference is) and take a picture of it before giving it to your manager so you have the documentation if it gets ‘lost’. If they continue to schedule you over your availability, I would submit a complaint to the DM with the photo and the same thing you wrote here.
If it’s an option, I would see if there’s another store in the area with a manager that will respect your availability and see if you can transfer.
As others have said, change your availability. If you have paper forms available, fill that out as well and clearly mark that you’re only available for 12-15 hours a week (or whatever your preference is) and take a picture of it before giving it to your manager so you have the documentation if it gets ‘lost’. If they continue to schedule you over your availability, I would submit a complaint to the DM with the photo and the same thing you wrote here.
If it’s an option, I would see if there’s another store in the area with a manager that will respect your availability and see if you can transfer.
Thts-atiny1 1 points 1y ago
Go online and change your availability or go over him
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