baristas being told to quit because they are going to college(self.starbucksbaristas)
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Affectionate_Fart3 points1y ago
I feel like part of it correlates to screwing over your younger people who want hours during the summer (like high schoolers or people who can only do 20-25 hours during their classes *asu or regular*, and are expecting full time hours while home, but are then fucked over by Mary-Jane who comes back from college, expecting 30-40 hours a week for 6-12 weeks and every two weeks they’re home for spring break. At my old store, I had practically full time baristas that NEEDED 32-40 hours for their rent or other bills and these college partners had taken a large majority hours because they were home for two week blocks. I also don’t think it’s fair to other partners who are expecting a bump in hours only to get them taken by someone who pops back for two weeks during winter and spring and maybe 8-10 weeks during the summer.
babygirlthedoorman1 points1y ago
i get that completely! my store might just be an outlier in that the ones who work here regularly don’t want full time hours whereas our strongest baristas are the ones who want to work as much when they can before going off to school and when they come home. i understand how it can suck for those who are tryin to get their hours. i just think it should be a store by store policy on how that works. i’m someone who in all my experience as a manager or supervisor across multiple companies has always been an employee or team member focused person in that the needs of my partners(or whatever the title) outweigh my own. in my store that means guaranteeing a job for those who are going to school whereas that may not be for everywhere.
piratedashel3 points1y ago
If you aren’t working, then you don’t have a job. I don’t understand why this is confusing. They offer free ASU classes. You can transfer to a different store to continue your education. You can reduce your hours. You can’t simply not work and still have a job because you want to do other things instead. If you want to leave on good terms and come back, that’s an option! Starbucks loves a rehire. It’s not practical to continue to give someone a coffee markout once a week and a discount indefinitely because they chose to not work. Sorry, maybe an unpopular opinion, but this is not a reasonable request.
babygirlthedoorman2 points1y ago
i really do understand where you are coming from but people are not just “choosing to not work” because they want to go to college
piratedashel1 points1y ago
Plenty of people, myself included, went to college and also worked. My former manager got his masters while managing a store. It can be done.
babygirlthedoorman1 points1y ago
it can be done but doesn’t mean it has to be done. like i really don’t understand why it’s so hard to just let people go to school while maintaining their job for them for when they are back instead making more work for them and the store managers when you could simply just let them take a leave of absence and put them on the schedule when they are back home. if small businesses can do that so can starbucks.
babygirlthedoorman0 points1y ago
these kids are working their asses off to save up money so that they dont have to work during their time at school and can focus on their studies and also having fun and they deserve that. everyone deserve that and being told they have to quit because of that is abhorrent to me.
babygirlthedoorman2 points1y ago
i understand it from a business standpoint completely like i really do. but starbucks can a) afford to allow their measly discount and single markout a week to those who want to pursue an education and b) can just as easily suspend those discounts and markouts while these partners are at school. it just creates more work for everyone involved to go through the entire rehire process instead of just letting them work a weekend while they are home for the holidays or a weekend here and there. and while it is amazing that starbucks does offer the ASU classes not everyone wants to take online classes and those who want to pursue a traditional college experience should not be penalized for wanting that.
piratedashel1 points1y ago
We have a lot of people that come home from school for the summer or winter break and work.
Tdawwg782 points1y ago
My theory is that after years of not caring (actually wanting ) high turnover because partners don’t put as much effort in when they stop drinking the kool-aid, suddenly we are in an environment where it’s hard to retain workers. Yeah he extra hours given (minimum 12/week) is a smokescreen to force longer availabilities and commitments. The siren finally cares about their turnover rate and it’s screwing a lot of part time baristas.
happybowlita832 points1y ago
I don't think it's targeted to students, as most of them already work at stores near their schools because it makes things easier and as for high school students most of the ones hired have full availability weekends and some have 1 or 2 evenings available. I think it might just be to make scheduling easier and faster, it's easier for a SM to acomodate to time off requests or to add more labor when necessary if everyone has a bit more open availability to work with. For example, if you're a student and can only work weekends you just need to have 9 hours available for Saturday and Sunday and or 12 on Saturday 6 on Sunday. You won't necessarily get scheduled all those hours, your SM just has more flexibility to work with. In my case, I'm going from open availability to being able to work 2 or 3 days and I was looking to at least get 12 hours, I'll probably have 4-5 hr availability for an evening, and 6-7hr availability on weekends. If I can't handle it, I'll probably only open my availability for weekends for the 18 hrs, they obviously can't schedule me the 18 but I'll have the availability.
OkElephant22852 points1y ago
Currently a full time college student, who is willing/wants to work 12-18ish hours a week, but just found out that I must have 20 hrs availability. Which I do not have because I have to go to class and study for those classes + complete assignments and participate in organizations and clubs. Plus, I don't want to put all my possible "free time" up as available time to work, because I don't want to have to worry about possibly being scheduled at any of the times I'm not in a class/meeting. I want to have as much consistency in my work schedule to make sure I can plan ahead as much as possible, but putting up all my possible available time in order to reach that 20 hour availability minimum makes that difficult. I'm upset because it seems like I'm increasingly expected to put Starbucks over school (and my career), which I can't do but I also can't not work. Would like to say I'm not naive. I'm NOT surprised, but def disappointed.
babygirlthedoorman1 points1y ago
not surprised but disappointed is the perfect way of saying it. it sucks especially for a company that says they are so partner focused to treat you that way. i let myself be fooled into thinking the same thing, while i am extremely grateful for all the things starbucks has given me. if i was your supervisor just know that i would be fighting for you as hard as i am my current partners, i wish i was. i hope it works out for you. i can tell that the company would suffer without you, someone who i can tell is so passionate about their job and want to work not only for yourself but for the benefit of your entire team. but also know that there are many other opportunities out there for you if you need to take them.
Kindly-Trust72112 points1y ago
It sucks. I’m in the same situation. I can’t work but also don’t want to go through the trouble of being rehired so I might just put my apron down for good :(
babygirlthedoorman1 points1y ago
i’m sorry to hear that! that’s why i think it’s such a terrible policy. in all my years i have never heard of any business not allowing their employees to take time off for school. that’s why i was so upset by hearing this. i hope it works out for you.
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