Need advice ASM: Talking with SM about being kind(self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by Misty6612
Hey y’all’s! I just need a little advice navigating this situation. I’m a new Asm to the store I’m at and I’m noticing things that seem tense to me. My current SM is very abrasive and coaching is very direct and to the point, even very mean/ belittling at times. Some partners have brought this to my attention and stated they don’t feel comfortable telling her directly because they’re scared of them. I had somewhat broached the topic but they said it’s not their job to lead with empathy, she has a business to run and if they’re not comfortable with it then she’s not the right leader for them. So how should I go about redirecting this? Should I talk with my DM? Or have another conversation about it? I know I asked about compromise from both sides. Asking the partners to tell the SM to coach them different or say hey, that came off in a way that feels not good. Can you rephrase it or talk to me on the side. Then I asked the SM to try and be more supportive and kinder to them and meet them halfway.
aaronbdancer6 points11m ago
As a fellow asm; my approach would be taking it to the dm if you’ve already had a conversation about it. Obviously that is if you have a good working relationship/ regularly have meetings with them.
My reasoning for approaching the dm is simply, your current sm isn’t encompassing the missions and values by your statement; they don’t need to lead with empathy. It’s quite literally our job to do so
Misty6612 [OP]2 points11m ago
Thank you! I’ve been lost on what to do with being in a new district and new peers all around. This definitely helps 😊
HamburgIar_4 points11m ago
I think you would be surprised at how much a DM values the input of an ASM. You are their eyes and ears of the store.
Cool-Condition-97364 points11m ago
The partner experience is a big deal right now in the company. So you unfortunately have to be direct with the SM and and call them out in the moment. I appreciate your concern as an ASM who could just hide knowing you’ll be gone soon! That’s very nice to see. But you have to challenge the SM and yourself to have this tough conversation that coaching isn’t about being a jerk. They won’t be with the company long if they treat people with no respect and don’t attempt to understand where they might be coming from. I’m a SSV looking to promote so I get the difficulty here. But know that your partners have your back and them looking to you is a great thing and means you’ll make a great leader. Best of luck!
Misty6612 [OP]1 points11m ago
Thank you very much for the input! I know I wanna talk about it with them again but it didn’t work the first time. Ima be hopeful and be more clear about what needs to change and why. I know our turnover is high too. Like 70% I believe? But thank you again!
Ordinary_Theory85342 points11m ago
You should bring it up again but maybe bring out the field ops guide and go over the SM approach with them. They are your peer and there’s nothing wrong with coaching them. Plus this will be a good story to tell when you go to interview for SM. They will never be able to build a foundation with their team unless they develop soft skills and I’m speaking from experience because I am currently working on my soft skills.
celloqueer2 points11m ago
My opinion might not matter as much to you as an ssv but leaders like that make people quit and shoot themselves in the foot having to constantly rebuild the store after hemorrhaging staff. Your baristas and shifts are already stretched plenty thin as it is—corporate staffing standards expect everyone on the floor to be performing like 1yr plus partners on their A game every day, and it’s incredibly hard already, and to be frank a lot of SMs and ASMs simply don’t know what it’s like— it’s not necessarily y’all’s fault but because y’all have to do admin and stuff y’all usually overlap with an ssv and so y’all aren’t as likely to see how the store runs when it’s, for example, one shift and two baristas who’ve not even hit two months with the company and nobody else to help. It’s not a realistic expectation to think your baristas and shifts will be able to take on board harsh coaching when they’re already fighting overwhelm and burnout.
That doesn’t mean you or your SM have to sugarcoat things. But for me to be able to effectively coach my baristas I have to keep it impersonal and assume the best from them—that is to say, I know they’re trying and I know there was a reason why they thought they should do whatever they just did, but we’re meant to do this because XYZ. Point back to the what/what/why corporate-y version of this with your SM if you have to. Like, “I know you were trying to help Cindy on bar just now and I appreciate that but I need you to chat with people at the window for our customer connections” hits way different from “why aren’t you listening to me? I told you to do X.” I don’t hold back from being direct with my baristas but before I go into coaching mode I ask why they just did X to avoid misunderstanding what I think I saw, and if it was something I have to coach I acknowledge their thinking even as I correct.
I’m so glad you see this as a problem because my area has (former) SMs who said they were dictators and their stores are in disarray from treating people like crap until they quit. Like even if an SM doesn’t care about other people, it doesn’t help their own self interest to be harsh and become the last straw that drives off the people who cared and tried.
xCherryBombshell1 points11m ago
Talk to the DM if the SM doesn't change, as it can turn into an ethics & compliance thing reeeeeally quick.
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