What is *supposed* to happen when a partner assaults another partner?(self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by ThePunkRockClimber
*TW: Physical assault, workplace violence*
Alright so a barista at my store was taking an order on DT with her leg up on the counter. A shift supervisor went over, made a fist and repeatedly bashed the barista's arm as she was taking the order. The barista has a bruise a little bigger than a US quarter. This was caught on camera. Management (SM, ASM, DM) has reviewed the footage. The shift supervisor was not terminated. She is working on the floor as keyholder right now. I'm transferring stores because I no longer feel safe, but in this situation, what is *supposed* to happen?
TL;DR A partner bruised another partner and was *not* terminated. How is this possible?
ecw2002128 points10m ago
okay definitely not victim blaming but who tf takes an order with their leg on the counter
friendlySkeletor82 points10m ago
Not that i especially trust them to do anything but definitely bring it up with ethics and compliance (or whatever they're called I'm really tired). Make sure everyone in the store knows about it too.
Also wtf prompted the supervisor to even do that? It seems like unprompted violence for its own sake.
mrpoliceemsfire161 points10m ago
“Yes, hello? Is this the police? Yes, I’d like to report an assault.”
ThePunkRockClimber [OP]49 points10m ago
The barista is an immigrant and being involved with law enforcement could jeopardize her immigration status
mrpoliceemsfire116 points10m ago
What state did this occur in? Being the victim of a crime would never harm someone’s immigration status.
nikkicarter111149 points10m ago
*should. Not would. It happens, unfortunately.
mrpoliceemsfire1-12 points10m ago
I'm sure if the Barista immediately stepped off the floor and dialed 911 to report that they were just assaulted by their supervisor a uniformed patrol officer would not care about the pending immigration status of the victim. Nor would DHS if they're a victim of a crime.
darkwolf5231 points10m ago
? The police can look at the footage and determine if your coworker is in the wrong
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mrpoliceemsfire12 points10m ago
The Barista is the immigrant! Not the shift! Use your context clues!
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happybowlita837 points10m ago
They said the barista is an immigrant not the ssv....
gothlene1 points10m ago
Got it, yeah depends on the state
happybowlita8348 points10m ago
Since your managers seem to not have done much they most likely didnt report the incident to ethics and compliance themselves so you'll be the one who can do it, which should lead to an investigation.
• the Partner Resources Support Center (PRSC) at (888) SBUX411 (728-9411)
• Ethics & Compliance Helpline (available 24/7) at (800) 611-7792 or
starbucks.com/helpline
When possible, a report should include details about the issue or conduct, the names of
the individuals involved and any witnesses. Partners will not be penalized or retaliated
against for reporting conduct that they believe to be a violation of this policy.
the manager must report
information to Ethics & Compliance at (800) 611-7792 or starbucks.com/helpline.
Any manager who violates this mandatory reporting obligation will be subject to
disciplinary action, up to and including separation from employment.
ElevatorsAreScary16 points10m ago
No no no no no. In any workplace (really any setting) it is completely inappropriate to use violence (pushing, shoving, hitting, any physical unwanted contact) to get someone to do something. Completely inappropriate if it’s barista on barista, but like even worse if it’s ssv/manager on barista.
That ssv showed a complete disregard for their responsibilities as a partner with Starbucks. Behaviour like that is NEVER okay. Even if this barista was not bruised, pushing her or punching her to get her leg off the counter is completely unacceptable.
It doesn’t matter what a barista does. The only reason I would ever (and any partner should ever) touch another partner without explicit consent is if that partner is in danger and physically moving them is the only way to stop the immediate threat.
This needs to be reported, and should be reported as an incident report so it goes straight up to corporate. They will help ensure your DM and SM take appropriate responsibility here. You can file an incident report by going to partner hub on the computer and searching “incident report”. The behaviour of the ssv here is just appalling and I strongly recommend reporting it and transferring to a new store.
For context here: I am an ssv with Starbucks and have been with the company on and off since 2016
Additionally, this is assault and can be taken to the police. If the partner feels unsafe around the ssv, then the partner should speak to the police about this and get a protective order, this will also help if they want to transfer and may help the DM and SM take it more seriously. Truly, the behaviour here is absolutely unacceptable and I really hope that proper action will be taken to prevent this from happening again
goofygoobered8 points10m ago
if you truly don’t want to involve the police, and nothing has been done on your SMs part, i would contact someone higher up about it. even if you’re transferring, there needs to be some sort of action for assaulting a barista in the workplace. talk to your DM, ethics and compliance, and if it hasn’t been done already fill out an incident report. ultimately the person who was assaulted will have to be the one pushing for action as well.
jjd_yo2 points10m ago
What is supposed to happen? Uh… they get fired, barred from reapplication, and literally the complete opposite of your situation.
This is assault, a legal crime. It is honestly terrifying they are on the floor. I would call to speak to a DM, the DM’s boss, and the DM’s Boss’s Boss if they aren’t taking action, furthermore let the shift work further.
themindisall11132 points10m ago
the victim can and should file a police report for assault.
Comfortable-Plane9441 points10m ago
To be frank, besides ethics and compliance, I’d file a police report. That’s assault. I hope she took a picture of her bruise
darkwolf5231 points10m ago
Starbucks resource number right here. (888) SBUX-411 (7289-411).
Also wtf gave the shift manager the right idea to HIT someone? Hell, I would also call the police on them. That’s assault. Not to mention an incident report too?
Few_Conclusion_88241 points10m ago
So they have to go through partner resources for something like that and they take forever for anything to get done (speaking from direct and indirect experience). I know it sucks but your manager unfortunately does not have that kind of power, which makes no sense but they have to go through these steps before anything can be done. It doesn’t make any sense but that’s the way it is.
canada_barista-54 points10m ago
A) why do you have your leg/foot up on the counter? B) Don't fucking touch people, shift >.> C) "assault" is a little dramatic, and firing them is too
Yes the shift touched the barista, and it left a mark, but that wasn't the intention I'm sure. You don't get fired over something like this (exact situation). Plus seeing as she was on drive, she had a headset on and the shift couldn't just say "put your leg down". It's not okay that he used that much strength, but I wouldn't call this assault.
celloqueer27 points10m ago
If you hit someone that hard, you meant to do it. There were other options—for example, tapping them on the shoulder or making motions to them and then being like “yo wtf” verbally between orders.
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i bruise if someone looks at me wrong. this shift might not have been hitting very hard at all. i think the main point is it's just not okay to hit people.
DreyaNova17 points10m ago
It’s never okay to hit someone…
nikkicarter111113 points10m ago
Since you seem to be Canadian, here's the Canadian definition (assault is a legal term)
"The intention to apply force to someone else in a direct or indirect manner, without that person’s consent. This is a very important point to note; the threat of assault is all that is required for an assault charge to be legally given. Actual injury does NOT have to occur in order for an assault charge to occur. The most important points of an assault charge are that the person being charged had direct intent to inflict harm, and that the person being harmed did not give consent."
canada_barista-23 points10m ago
Your definition says "the person being charged had direct INTENT to inflict harm". I'm saying that wasn't her (the shift's) intent, I don't think. Legally, I can't say what I "think" someone's intent is though. Did they go about it in a bad way? Yeah. But...it's kinda like when a drunk guy takes a pee in a parc at night, when there are no children present and they get labeled a sex offender for life for "indecent exposure". They aren't really a sex offender. That's just my opinion on it. And y'all can hate it, that's fine.
amazing_redhead3 points10m ago
Regardless if you can claim intent legally they can claim (with video evidence) that force was applied to them without consent
ComradeSnowball_13 points10m ago
Yeah, I don’t care what happened to cause the reaction from the SSV. We’re big boys and girls and we can use words instead of hitting someone, no matter how “light” you may find it. If anyone did that to me at my store I’d be very upset myself fwiw.
nikkicarter111112 points10m ago
I think you may need to Google assault.
In the US, any crime involving a physical attack (or even the threat of an attack) is usually classified as an assault, a battery, or both. Specific definitions vary state to state. But in all of them, hitting someone hard enough to leave a mark (without that person's contest) is a crime. Hitting someone and NOT leaving a mark is a crime.
Fyi: "Simple assault often carries misdemeanor penalties (and some states refer to this crime as a misdemeanor assault.) This crime generally involves either the threat of immediate harm or a physical act that results in minimal injuries. Raising a fist at someone and threatening to smack them would be a simple assault. Shoving or slapping a person that results in bruising may also be charged as simple assault."
jjd_yo2 points10m ago
Leaving a mark, intentional or not, is assault. Why justify physical interaction where there should have been absolutely none of this nature in the first place?
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