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SSV: when to send a partner home due to dress code violation? (self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by Affectionate_Fart
Super tempted to send this one barista home who ALWAYS shows up in a tank top or crop top when they’ve been told numerous times to not wear stuff like that. At what point do you send your barista home to change and document that you’ve done so?
Ashleybux 168 points 10m ago
here’s what I would advise my SSV’s: 1st violation-print out dress code and have them sign it after you review it together. This is a documented coaching conversation. Have them also write down what was out of code so they understand exactly. Next time they show up out of dress code, explain this is the final coaching. 3rd time is when I step in.
HappyBarista 54 points 10m ago
This is perfect!! It’s clear directions for the ssv. The barista will be clear on what they did wrong and hopefully not do it again. I would never want to receive any kind of correction like this but if I did, I would be sure to not do it again.

I would love it if my SM was so clear about everything. It seems like my current SM just gets mad at someone and immediately gives them a written corrective action. There’s no steps leading up to the write up. Like I said I would love if my SM was like you!!
OneRoseDark 13 points 10m ago
Supervisors do not have the authority to have documented coaching or write-up conversations. we can do casual coaching only. even the ASMs I've had aren't able to handle write-up/documented coaching issues. that's store managers only.
Ashleybux 4 points 10m ago
Supervisors can absolutely have a documented coaching. If you come in out of dress code and your shift prints out the dress code and has you sign..that’s a documented coaching. You might be talking about the box to check off on the written warnings that the SM gives a partner. As a shift, you are absolutely able to print out a policy and have another partner sign it if they are in violation. It does serve as a documented coaching.
TheFriendlyFeminist 7 points 10m ago
This is the way
Binx_da_gay_cat 2 points 10m ago
I will say, that's solid for clothes. Maybe just a point or a heavy comment if it's something like jewelry that can be taken off for a one offense, not if it's repeated. I think sometimes it can cross into "whoops, forgot I was wearing that" territory and less of an intentional "What shirt/pants will I wear today." I know I've accidentally come in once with a ring, and a ssv at my store never really got on another barista for seriously out of dress code jewelry. First offense is a mistake, second is intentional.
Intelligent-Hunt-906 1 points 10m ago
What is documented coaching though?
kobo15 1 points 10m ago
This is really great! Probably gunna take this back with my team, since this is a thing we’ve discussed
Alive-Buffalo7933 153 points 10m ago
sounds like they’ve had more than enough warnings. they should’ve been sent home the first time they’ve done that since it’s not a minor violation (like colour). tank tops and crop tops are a food safety issue. i ain’t want sweaty pits in my drinks🙅‍♀️😅
Affectionate_Fart [OP] 87 points 10m ago
Agreed.
I’m kind of annoyed because these night SSVs are saying I’m too “strict” but honestly it’s their job to manage…like brah you make the rest of us look bad when doing that shit :/
Christyawn 12 points 10m ago
im the “hard ass” all the time but they still respect me bc they know where i’m coming from. do your job. i promise they understand.
dcoul27 6 points 10m ago
You’re not too strict for following standards. They aren’t having your back and making you out to be the bad guy when they’re not doing what they’re literally paid to do. Time to have a convo with your SM.
the1noir -105 points 10m ago
You sound too strict lmao. Let your manager deal with it.
Affectionate_Fart [OP] 31 points 10m ago
Up until this girl gets a second degree burn and I have to put in the incident report.
takodiyaki -18 points 10m ago
well technically even with a starbucks t-shirt you would still get a second degree burn.
Christyawn 14 points 10m ago
there’s a difference between being strict and covering your own ass.
gabby24681 4 points 10m ago
Yeah and if that doesn’t convince them maybe tell them some burn/cut stories
geekgurl81 145 points 10m ago
One of our shifts went and bought a bunch of cheap t-shirts that stay in the back that are ok for dress code. Not that it should be on the shifts to do such things, but sending people home costs all of us in the long run and it helped.
Binx_da_gay_cat 43 points 10m ago
A couple of men's undershirts/packaged shirts in different sizes and you're good. (It's not even thin, it's just a solid bland colored shirt)
board-certified -9 points 10m ago
i downvoted this because only because this is not a shifts responsibility and the manager needs to take care of this
geekgurl81 8 points 10m ago
I don’t disagree that it isn’t, but solutions that don’t leave the rest of the staff are helpful. They can still be subject to write up.
Compared_To-What 15 points 10m ago
I mean technically you can send them home to get changed anytime they turn up violating dress code, especially if its a health and safety thing like wearing crop tops that exposes sensitive areas of your skin.

I guess just give them 1st verbal warning and document it, then just keep escalating it until it falls under disciplinary and written warning, then final written warning, then if they slip up with even the smallest thing they can be dismissed granted if its within the correct time frame.

You will need the backing of your SM though for most of this. We have the same sort of problem but it's hard to escalate and enforce with disruptive baristas because the SM doesn't care but I'll get pulled up by DMs and audits if the staff on my shift aren't look book etc.
Pylon-Cam 14 points 10m ago
Sending them home to change just results in you having one less person on the floor during that time, so unless you’re over-staffed and/or the store is dead, it’s not worth it to send them home unless they’re wearing something horribly inappropriate.
suibiansuibian 14 points 10m ago
i keep an extra shirt in the back for this reason. i’ve had partners use this as an excuse to get away with dress code violations ngl
Electrical_Metal_106 8 points 10m ago
I keep an extra shirt too. It’s like when you had to borrow the loaner clothes in PE lol
Affectionate_Fart [OP] 6 points 10m ago
Honestly my store is a slow, low volume store and I’m usually “extra” cause our shifts overlap (but I use that time to do cleaning tasks or organizational things). So I’m not worried about staffing.
Training_Material_42 10 points 10m ago
Document the times you’ve coached them in the DRB so when you bring it to your SM you can show them you have a record of the conversations. “Coached so and so about improper dress code (crop top)” Because when you bring issues like this to your SM it’s for further action to be taken.
mowwyowo 3 points 10m ago
I’d say to purchase some plain black shirts to have for this reason. I think they would quickly stop doing it (and you don’t have to send them home or write them up)
dallizzlee 2 points 10m ago
A tank top is a health code violation right? Armpits out
dcoul27 2 points 10m ago
Send home after first warning. They are expected to be in dress code. They know what it is. I’ve had my partners take a photo on their phone or I’ll send them a photo of the dress code that way it’s holding them accountable. They won’t take you seriously giving warning after warning and never actually doing anything about it. Silent permission is still permission.
rlogranite 2 points 10m ago
Immediately!!
PoppyPancakes 2 points 10m ago
When it’s something for safety- send them home immediately. Tank tops, crop tops, open shoes, anything like that send them home. If it’s recurrent- send them home. The dress code is so lax now that if you aren’t in dress code you aren’t safe to work
board-certified 1 points 10m ago
don’t send them home and tell your manager to write them up
fhdurham11 1 points 10m ago
I have spoken to one of my baristas that leggings is not dress code approved. Please do not wear them again or you could be written up, asked to go home, or both. Next time they worked with me, they had on leggings. I asked, are those leggings they said yes. I said you know you aren’t suppose to be wearing them. They said yes…I immediately texted my SM that was seated in the cafe….your move. Again, this is just another thing that has gone on and on but SM and DM weren’t doing anything except telling us shifts that we needed to handle certain situations. I’m good with that but my tolerance is zero and if you (SM/DM) aren’t going to have my back then we are done. I’ll do my job and go home.
florencelovelace 1 points 10m ago
i have a question about this too! is an SSV allowed to send you home to get changed and come back or can they only send you home for the dress code violation??
Professor_Sqi 1 points 10m ago
One warning, twice if you're feeling kind. Then you send them home. The message will sink in soon enough
WallyBBunny 1 points 10m ago
I sent someone home for wearing a very bright colored track suit and another for wearing yellow crocs. I don’t want to try to just send people home BUT I mean, some of the times it’s just not practical to wear at work. 😐
Necessary_Low939 0 points 10m ago
U definitely can and it can count as a write up when being sent home
North-Nectarine9138 -2 points 10m ago
Tank top= Home
Crop top= whatever….
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