Is that normal? I’ve never worked in a place before where my boss physically raised their voice and yelled at me like a child. It was incredibly humiliating and demeaning. Do other SM’s yell? What do you do when they do?
Edit: thank you all for the words of encouragement and advice. I reached out to some trusted peers and eventually my DM. I am having a sit down conversation with my SM and my DM Monday. I’m asking a trusted SSV to sit in with us. I will be asking to transfer stores and in which way this plays out, my time with this store/Starbucks will be done starting in October.
aaronbdancer141 points10m ago
My opinion is they shouldn’t. Coming from another sm myself. If you have to get your point across by yelling then you aren’t effectively communicating your expectations as a leader
mxddii [OP]37 points10m ago
I agree. I’m an ASM and I would never yell at a partner. It was shocking when my SM raised their voice.
aaronbdancer9 points10m ago
It’s definitely pause for concern and if you’re not comfortable addressing it, talk to your dm about it. Just make sure you are very specific with examples
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ZombieLlamaSlays62 points10m ago
Absolutely not okay. I don’t care what position they hold. No one deserves to be yelled at over fucking coffee. Report that to DM, human resources, the Siren, someone please. Do not hold yourself so low as to think its ok or you deserve it. Our job is to “make the moment right”… don’t let this asshole belittle you in your place of work.
SNES18242 points10m ago
Tell them you’ll come back to work when they can talk to you like an adult, then go home.
embracing-the-absurd5 points10m ago
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insertusernameplease19 points10m ago
Honestly? I would quit on the spot. Idc no job is worth that shit to me anymore.
Any_Target53075 points10m ago
Seriously! I can find another shit job paying exactly what I make now (or more) that same day if I wanted too. Everyone is hiring and I’m grown as hell. Not getting yelled at at work for any reason.
Demonic_Witch66616 points10m ago
If my boss ever yelled at me I'd walk straight out the door and tell them to not bother with me till they can learn to talk properly
Enbyenbyoxenfree13 points10m ago
SM chiming in to agree with what most folks are saying here. That’s not ok. And if you can’t control your temper enough to speak to someone respectfully, you shouldn’t be in customer service at all, let alone a leadership position. If you feel like you can talk to your sm first, I’d do that. Also, if you have another sm that you feel close to ( I always encourage every single partner to develop a connection with another store manager, even my own) talk it out with them and ask for how they might handle it. Yes, being an sm is hard right now, and there’s a lot of stress and pressure, but being a partner in general is hard right now, and that’s no excuse.
Toughboyedit7 points10m ago
Ask for a connect with your DM and explicitly explain the details and how it wasn’t an appropriate reaction and made you feel
mxddii [OP]10 points10m ago
I’ve got my PDC with my DM this week. My DM and SM are really close and I’m worried about retaliation.
Ordinary_Theory853414 points10m ago
Retaliation is not allowed per the partner guide book. If they try to use a form of retaliation, report them to ethics and compliance to build a case against them or report to your DM.
violentfemme173 points10m ago
Write. Down. Everything. Names, dates, times, witnesses, etc. Best thing to have when going into these types of situations, at least in my limited experiences with Starbucks “investigations”
Ordinary_Theory85343 points10m ago
Also, you should talk to them about it before anything. that’s good constructive feedback to give someone and they are your peer.
Bhaisaab861 points10m ago
Call ethics and have them fill out a report of that behavior, let them know you have a PDC and you will be bringing up the subject and are worried about retaliation. That way if any retaliation happens, the whole situation is well documented.
foomeitshitme6 points10m ago
SM here. It may not be easy some days but it is never appropriate to raise my voice. If I do then that’s my failure and not my crews.
grlcbr8th6 points10m ago
As far as I’m concerned no adult should ever yell at another adult, especially not in a place of work.
Garrickrelentless3 points10m ago
I quit McDonald's after *six years* on and off because a new SM was being bitchy and throwing her weight around. Never looked back. You deserve better.
Downtown_Asparagus713 points10m ago
Report them everywhere immediately. NO ONE a has the right to behave this way in a work environment
salaciainthedepths3 points10m ago
The ONLY context where it would be appropriate for an SM to yell would be if you were about to grab a live wire or badly burn yourself or something. No one should be yelling about anything. This is nuts
Necessary_Low9392 points10m ago
I read ur an asm. My first sm had yelled at asms or made them feel bad before. That’s bout it tho
rosaaface2 points10m ago
Former SBX barista, current SM at a dispensary: this is absolutely unacceptable and unprofessional. I have been snippy before with staff and ensured I pulled them to the side and apologized for it because while I’m human, there is never a need for me to be rude or not a team player. The staff aren’t your children, they are you co-workers and peers. They should be treated with the respect you want in return, no matter their job title. If you’re comfortable speaking with them, do so. It’s not fair to you to be spoken down to and your manager should be open to constructive criticism. (I say should because some people really are power hungry and let it go to their heads) Sending hugs! I know it doesn’t feel good to have a manager who is awful.
MarslikesLeeks2 points10m ago
I love how there responses slowly got more and more angry about what’s happening to OP then more detailed about how to handle it. Lol but yea that’s jank No managers should be yelling
Keyndoriel2 points10m ago
If its a one time thing they profusely apologize for without you having to be the one to badger for a sincere apology, it's incredibly shitty. If its something theyre prone to do, report it to PCC
Js_On_My_Yeet2 points10m ago
As an SSV whenever I hear my crew yelling at each other (whether they are joking or not) I always intervene if they are getting too loud. Mind you, most of the time they are joking with each other which is fine by me, but when they get loud is when I usually step in. Your SM yelling at you regardless if you were on the floor or not is unprofessional. I wouldn't even continue to work there.
ModeMore33752 points10m ago
That is not okay
tregnoc1 points10m ago
Report them. Report them every time they fuck up.
TheSnakeEmpress1 points10m ago
I have never yelled at a partner, but I have had a stern talking to them. Yelling is never okay from a management standing
dazedinreverse1 points10m ago
Never okay. This is a job not a daycare and they should be treating you like adults, with respect.
board-certified1 points10m ago
i’m an SSV and i agree that no one should ever be yelled at at work. My SM and I were talking about how they think that they should show people when they’re upset/angry more because they feel walked on or not taken serious… or more like they think they’re seen as too laid back or generous. They never said they should tell more or anything like that though.
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the_price_is_right961 points10m ago
Absolutely not. Ask to be transferred to another store.
Andromeda-21 points10m ago
This happened to me. What I did was quit :)
verdeuce1 points10m ago
You need to contact your dm and the prsc
Lightheaded_gamer1 points10m ago
My first SM was like this and everyone around me swallowed it, tried to ignore it and only focused on the 7% of moments of when she was “nice”. She made the job feel like a ball and chain where I yes can say “I quit” but won’t have health insurance. I remembered when she cornered me about reaching out to the dm without talking to her, I told her that I liked working with her but I don’t like working under her (because there was a period when I was working at another store when my first one was being remodeled). After that we basically clashed so much till she transferred me without giving me much of a choice (either that or she fires me without any reason actually).
Try to converse your concerns with your SM on how you are being treated makes you feel just so it gets covered; It may backfire but it be smaller than going over their head ( which will result them cornering you) As soon as you expressed your concerns and feelings AND get their response ( they won’t change their behavior), contact the DM by phone and email(even cc the sm). Have all communications documented as much as possible. Managers like these tend to show their true colors verbally to avoid getting in trouble with hr.
Don’t let anyone scare you from speaking up. Your well being matters the most and if you have to leave for a new job or a new location take the opportunity. No one should ever make you feel stuck. I wished I was brave enough along time ago.
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