I mean, yeah, this is actually a good way to go about this, I think. Stores are expected to be open during the holidays, and your SM could just schedule people as normal and not ask people if they want the holiday(s) off, instead, your SM is giving all partners not just “yes” or “no” but five options for your SM to work out to make sure everyone is as pleased as they can be while still keeping the store open. Seems very reasonable to me.

We did a volunteer sheet for our, you had to pick at least one of the holidays to work. We had 45 people on staff, I think a couple people were forced to work a couple days but it worked pretty well

this seems like a good system to me

Way more considerate than they are required to be

A sign up sheet is usually easier but this seems okay. The wording is a little “off” but it makes sense

So this will only be my second holiday season with bux but at my previous job everyone had to work 1 holiday and it went by seniority. So say someone had been there 10 years they would get first pick and they would usually go with Memorial Day or Labor Day since they’re short days no one really cares about. The newer people would get days like July 4th or Christmas Eve.
It worked really well for us there because it was a known system and once everyone picked there were no surprises.

My SM has a sign up sheet in the back for holiday crews. I think this is a good approach too. It allows all partners to be transparent about their holiday availability! Love it.

I love this!!

This is a good approach, as is an all volunteer basis! The stores are expected to be open and some people do enjoy working holidays so this seems like a great way to accommodate.

This is more than most stores get. “Is this allowed?” Really got an eye roll from me, if I’m being real

SM discretion.

I personally don't think workers should be required to work on holidays. Volunteer sure, but not forced. If the store can't be staffed the store can't be open.

I've worked too many holidays that were completely dead and, before I found my spine, ended up staying late because the sixty customers all came in the last five minutes. We're a business, not a public service. The world will go on, travelers can make coffee to go.

As a manager, I feel like this was a great way to do this.

As a human, I would gladly make my own coffee on Christmas to give baristas the day off.

Idk Xmas day is a volunteer only day at my store and typically there are a few borrowed partners on that day.
My 1st holiday season I was at a different store and they were just not open.

I’m curious what op’s problem is with this.

this isn’t a bad system in my opinion. my old store had sheets posted in back where people could sign up/volunteer to work (some people don’t mind working or want the bomb ass holiday pay/tips). but if your store doesn’t have an abundance of people who want to work holidays than this is a fair system.

I appreciate this for the obvious reasons. But at the same time, I dislike the wording. The store does not NEED to be open. I would argue that every employee getting to be with their family is more important and should be prioritized over people getting a coffee. The only reason not everyone gets the day off is for profit. Plain and simple. Coffee is not essential.

I think this is a really good method TBH.

Why would this be a problem? Sounds like your manager is trying to be as accommodating as possible in regards to the holidays. Unfortunately the sstore will be open and people will have to work

That's actually a brilliant way to schedule around 20+ people's preferences. I'm stealing that, honestly.

This is encouraged yes actually. I do something similar for my store and I’ve already decided hours for the holidays so I can let the team know what to expect

My previous sm did this and she let us pick two days we wanted off and let us volunteer days/ sign up for shifts we wanted

Honestly I like this system a lot. My old store you were expected to work one "day" and one "eve" and my current store you have to pick 3 (thanksgiving, black friday, christmas eve, NYE, new years day) which is pretty annoying lol. I'd take this system over our current one
edit: forgot we aren't open on christmas day

should do this at my store. can i pick 5 for all?

Yes, my store does this every year.

i wanted insight from other partners, but I have heard in the past that you can volunteer to work but you don’t have to.

This really seems like a great way to do it. Like the sheet says. Its retail holiday season. It sucks, but that's what you sign up for when working retail. Like others have said, my store had a holiday sign-up. Say which day you're willing to work. Otherwise it's a shit show. Doing something like this seems to be pretty fair. Considering they could just schedule people their normal days. I wouldn't complain about this

this honestly seems like the best way to do this

Fuck the store, family is far more important.

My manager makes all holidays staffed for 8 hours but operational for 7 ( half hour open half hour close) so only one key holder has to work and only a handful of baristas and we have people who like to work 8 hours on holidays so the rest of us get them off. It’s a brilliant system

last holiday season when i still worked there we had to work 2 holidays as a requirement and we could choose which ones we worked. i think its just bc otherwise no one would work holidays (which is fair bc no one wants to)

Lmao the illusion of choice

I would love something like this or a sign up sheet! This is a great idea.

This is better than ours. We’re required to work 3/5, Christmas is the only day optional.

This is my first holiday season with Bux but with Christmas over the weekend and I'm already not available, I'm not going to be in town. I already told me SM I have no issue opening Thanksgiving since DH's family does a later dinner. NYE is so whatever for me (I ALWAYS fall asleep before midnight, DH wakes me up at 11:58 and I'm all like yay, happy new year, time to go back to sleep).

Our manager post sign up sheets every year. We never have issues with not enough people signing up though because the tips make it worth it! At least where my store is located it does.

A lot of retail places straight up black out november and december so you can't take off unless you put it in early. I like this approach.

I really like the way my manager sets it up. Every partner is allowed 2 “holidays” off out of these. But no one can get Thanksgiving day AND Christmas off. You can do Xmas Eve + Xmas day/ NYE/New Years. But you at least have to work thanksgiving day or Christmas Day. Works out for most people.

Yes, most stores tell you when you’re hired too

Looks like a good system. At my store we have to choose the 2 holidays we would like to work, and only 1 store in town is open Christmas Day so that’s staffed with volunteers.

At Disneyland, we were trained "we work while others play," because it used to be open every single day, and a lot of people wanted to be there on Christmas and stuff. We made that possible :)
Guests always thanked us for working on holidays. It was nice to get holiday-paid to be at Disneyland on a holiday lol My family was so far away, I'd have been at the Parks anyway!

I’m so glad I quit Starbucks is a shit show

i mean at least they're being courteous and letting you decide which ones you want to work instead of being forced

I don’t get it cause literally any of these days the world would survive without Starbucks. Like most people don’t go to Starbucks on holidays cause they want it to be open…. They go BECAUSE it’s open

If no one wants to work those days then your store will
Be closed. That’s what my old manager told us

You should see my stores form. It demands that we have availability for at least 3 of the holidays. Not that we will be scheduled, but that we will be available for those days. Which sucks because 4 of those holidays i will be out of town, and there’s LITERALLY nothing I can do about it. 🙃

we would always do volunteer only on holidays

Why starbucks doesn’t close on holidays is so buzzard to me. I understand it gets busy but that’s because it’s open, while other places aren’t 😭

Hey i actually like this a lot!

My manager doesn't force us to work any holiday, if he doesn't have the staff ... we close. How it should be

Take it from me, Christmas Eve and New Year’s Day will 100% be the worst days to work.

I had a manager who did something very similar. I got the days off I wanted and worked the days I was happy working. We were a smaller store without a drive thru and not open on Xmas so I was sent somewhere else in the district to work that day. Everyone ended up relatively satisfied from what I can remember

We had a volunteer system where you could just write down your preferred holidays and time but we didn’t even have to volunteer. It’s time and a half on holidays so the manager just presented it as extra money. I always took New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day because I don’t really celebrate those days. I’ve worked thanksgiving before and that stinks.. you just roll into family dinner late. I’ve never worked on Christmas though. I don’t plan on ever working on Christmas. I work on my birthday but I’m not going in on Christmas.

I WISH we had this

All of these days u r expected to open except for Christmas that’s a volunteer shift, stores are supposed to put up a sign in sheet so partners who want to work Christmas Day can write down what times they are available to work. Keep in mind that if there r not a lot of people that have signed up the district u r in will gather all partners and send them to whatever store that’s within that district

My store had this

My old SM used to do this and I think it’s a good way to give people their preferred holidays off. My new SM refuses to do this & last holidays were really bad with call outs. I personally really like this.

I'm wondering what the OP is concerned about?

Remember that 3, 4 and 5 will be viewed as exactly the same by a manager.

our store (uk) wasn't open christmas day but you had to chose between xmas eve/boxing day and nye/nyd

This is what my store's always done with xmas eve/boxing day/new year's eve/new year's day. (xmas day itself is volunteer-only, which I love) We're told to assume we'll be working at least two of those four and rank accordingly. I like it as a system, because it feels like a good balance between "the store needs to be staffed" and "we want to spend holidays with family".

Generally, working on the holidays is time and a half as far as your hourly wage, and tips are much better. Also at my store tips given on holidays were only distributed to the partners that worked those holidays.

I’ll work all holidays but Christmas. Schedule me, idc. I won’t be coming in 😌

We do something similar, we all have to sign up for 3 out of 5 holidays, the other two being which ever you don’t want to work and the manager will do her best to accommodate everyone. Only difference is, my store is closed Christmas Day and I’ve always been told it is completely volunteer basis for that one.

We have a volunteer sheet. My SM is requiring us to sign up for 3 days minimum, but we’ll close early on all the holidays. We also write in what shift we want (morning/mid/night) for that day. I signed up for all in the AM except Christmas—that’s pretty much the only holiday I get to spend time with my entire family

We just don't open if there aren't enough people who want to work at my starbucks. Anyone who wants to work but our store is closed can work at another starbucks location. It's not that hard. Every time I see shit like this I realize how lucky I am. "Don't use all 1's" 🙄🙄🙄 i don't know why they even bother with this waste of form time if they don't want to know your answer

What if we all agreed to not show up 🤔

my SM asks for volunteers first because some ppl for example me don’t have family/etc to celebrate with so dont mind working them all. after those people are scheduled there’s a sign up sheet like this

My store just has the days on like a spreadsheet and depending on who's written their names on it is who works. We've closed around 2pm-4pm opened around 6am-8am

this just made me realize my manager has not posted one yet…

This is how it’s been at every job I’ve every worked in the service industry.

I wouldn’t mind working a few of these holidays if my family didn’t live 6 hours away lol.

My SM makes all 3 of the shifts work one holiday. The other two shifts just gave me news years eve and day since I have a toddler. For baristas my SM rotated them between all the holidays but we closed at 2 out by 3.

Seems like a good idea

i havent worked a store that hasnt done this.

This is exactly what my store did last year

now i feel kinda lucky. our store is closed by default with a sign up sheet for if you wanna work which holiday

We do sign-up sheets and if we don’t have enough coverage a few people are scheduled as per their normally scheduled hours

at my location you have to sign up for at least 3 of the 5, but you won't necessarily have to work all 3. supervisors have to discuss and be considerate of each other so there is coverage.

My manager just hangs a sheet with Christmas, thanksgiving and New Year’s Day, and says pick at least two. The one you don’t pick your guaranteed to have off. Also she puts slots for your preferred time you’d like to work on said holiday.

So at my store we do it a little different. We post sign up sheets for each holiday and we write down which holidays we want to work and which day part. This ensures the store stays staffed with our own partners and people can coordinate their holiday plans around their shift. So like for me my Christmas is usually in the evening so I request a morning shift typically.

my sm just put out the sign up sheet for us to fill out, i think it’s “recommended” that we sign up for 3 days but at the minimum it’s required that we all work at least one holiday. i personally think it’s pretty fair as we all knew when we applied to work here that sbux is open on holidays. i also like that they’re taking into consideration the other holidays that have already happened this year like labor day, 4th of july etc. so most people aren’t really “forced” to work so to say

Exact same thing we have at my Starbucks. They *can* require you to work some amount of holidays as a condition of employment, though you must also be paid time and a half on most of them.

This is pretty standard in service jobs, every one I've ever worked has been this way.

I think that the job outline specifically includes working holidays. It's an odd format, but it looks like the manager is making an actual effort to try and make the schedules around peoples preferences. At the end of the day we could all be "required" to work.

W.T.F.

a volunteer/sign up sheet is standard for the holidays. We’re open 365. The tips are sweet. I always volunteer to work Christmas

>working Christmas day

Lmao fuck no.

Unless you work for the emergency services, or are on standby/work for core supplies (water, gas, electric etc) and other core infrastructure there's no way in hell should you work Christmas day. Jesus christ. Ridiculous. People will not die, and profits won't suffer for closing for 1 damn day.

why would it not be lol

I kinda like this. You’re essentially signing up for 3, and 2 you’re saying no to. And the hours are reasonably reduced for the holidays. If everyone puts a 3 for Christmas Eve, a lot of baristas will be scheduled short shifts for that day.

I like working holidays, so this would be awesome for my store. There's literally only one day I want off, but since no one else wants to work any of them at all, I get stuck working the *one* I want off, and getting a random one off that I otherwise don't care about. I've tried to tell managers "hey, I'll work every holiday except this one, if that works for you" but by the time the holiday comes around, we have new management. I think a sheet like this would help.

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