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So there is a shift available that is 5 hours and 50 minutes… And my manager won't give me the lunch break, is this fair? (self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by Dannidalion
I'm basically working the whole six hours, I won't be getting the extra break lmao
rtsneedshelp 283 points 8m ago
Fair? No. Allowed? Yes. Unfortunately that sort of thing happens a lot.
clouds183 132 points 8m ago
lunches are only required to be offered at 6 hours on the dot.
Dannidalion [OP] 34 points 8m ago
Yeah unfortunately:p looks like I may have to pick it up anyways though
camusdreams 45 points 8m ago
Just gonna emphasize the “offered” part. We have partners at my store that don’t want the meal break and we’re not allowed to force it on them.
Edit: just copying from my reply below
Starbucks policy is page 8 in the handbook and is to only follow laws and regulations. Federal law doesn’t require the employer to give any breaks. Like at all. *Most* state laws only require that breaks are offered, but don’t require the employer *force* you to take them. Some managers may claim they’re required to, but really in most instances, we just need to keep partner hours within budget so the DM doesn’t get salty.
$1, Starbucks even stated that breaks were “offered”, and that this partner chose not to take them after he made the claim that he was not given his breaks. Starbucks also asked that this partner prove the breaks were not offered in the first place.
Edit: just copying from my reply below
Starbucks policy is page 8 in the handbook and is to only follow laws and regulations. Federal law doesn’t require the employer to give any breaks. Like at all. *Most* state laws only require that breaks are offered, but don’t require the employer *force* you to take them. Some managers may claim they’re required to, but really in most instances, we just need to keep partner hours within budget so the DM doesn’t get salty.
$1, Starbucks even stated that breaks were “offered”, and that this partner chose not to take them after he made the claim that he was not given his breaks. Starbucks also asked that this partner prove the breaks were not offered in the first place.
Cathach2 43 points 8m ago
That is very much state dependent in MA you have to take that 30
g_pvp_3 3 points 8m ago
!!
ConfusionDisastrous8 22 points 8m ago
Partners are required to take all scheduled breaks. They absolutely can be forced to take a break. Starbucks policy. All the break information is in the partner guide. Take your breaks. Periodt.
camusdreams 4 points 8m ago
This is not true. Starbucks “policy” is page 8 in the handbook and is to only follow laws and regulations. Federal law doesn’t require the employer to give any breaks. *Most* state laws only require that breaks are offered, but don’t require the employer force you to take them. Some managers may claim they’re required to, but really we just need to keep partner hours within budget.
$1, Starbucks even stated that breaks were “offered”, and that this partner chose not to take them after he made the claim that he was not given his breaks. Starbucks also asked that this partner prove the breaks were not offered in the first place.
Also just want to touch on your “scheduled” bit. The DCR is just a guide. It gives estimated times for breaks, but there are even special instances where the SSV can opt to not offer one or both of the 10s when also given a meal. In my state, this would apply to a 6 hour shift where the DCR might show two 10s and a meal. The SSV can technically (though we would never encourage it at my store) opt to do one meal and one 10 or no 10s at all.
$1, Starbucks even stated that breaks were “offered”, and that this partner chose not to take them after he made the claim that he was not given his breaks. Starbucks also asked that this partner prove the breaks were not offered in the first place.
Also just want to touch on your “scheduled” bit. The DCR is just a guide. It gives estimated times for breaks, but there are even special instances where the SSV can opt to not offer one or both of the 10s when also given a meal. In my state, this would apply to a 6 hour shift where the DCR might show two 10s and a meal. The SSV can technically (though we would never encourage it at my store) opt to do one meal and one 10 or no 10s at all.
YorkTownBratty 2 points 8m ago
I say set a time for 5hours and 50 minutes and then walk off the floor the minute it goes off.
Persnickety-sass1015 1 points 8m ago
Not true. Colorado is 5 hours.
clouds183 1 points 8m ago
6 hours by sbux policy. any specific local laws can make it shorter.
EliMinivan 65 points 8m ago
I work 5.75hr closing shifts 5-6 days a week. Never get lunch.
srirachastyle 35 points 8m ago
Same man. I hate it. Too short to feel worth it, too long to feel rested enough on just a ten
ATAO96 8 points 8m ago
That’s me on the closing shift :)
kittykattt3 63 points 8m ago
In my state lunches are required at the 5 hour mark
Dannidalion [OP] 14 points 8m ago
Aw, that's good!! In Texas it's 6 ;(
OneRoseDark 39 points 8m ago
actually in Texas there is no legal requirement to have a break at all. It's Starbucks policy that gives us a break at 6 hours, not any laws.
tourniquette2 18 points 8m ago
Precisely why I left Texas. After they ruled that Texans have no actual constitutional rights, i dipped. Lack of workers rights is common. But literally saying I have no rights when I interact with police? Nah. Bye.
lewabwee 30 points 8m ago
No but I feel like they’re kinda nice because you can always leave right on time no questions asked. You stay any longer and it’s a meal infringement.
hexsan91 6 points 8m ago
That sounds like a *them* problem to me
Beverice 23 points 8m ago
On the flipside, I actually liked these shifts. I don't like taking a lunch because it just feels like a waste of time, I'd sit around forever not doing anything (and not getting paid).
ColdBrewIsMyDrug -6 points 8m ago
You do understand that if you work a 6 hour shift then you get to spend 30 mins of that shift resting right? So you technically work 5 and a half hours.
With a 5.75 shift you’re working 5 hours, 35 mins with only a 10 min break.
You’re getting paid less to work more and you’re happy about that?
With a 5.75 shift you’re working 5 hours, 35 mins with only a 10 min break.
You’re getting paid less to work more and you’re happy about that?
ImportantBlood2 12 points 8m ago
10's are paid, so you're wrong.
ColdBrewIsMyDrug -6 points 8m ago
I know they’re paid… when did I say they aren’t? You’re working a 5.75 shift so you’re paid less than a 6 hour shift.
5 hours and 45 mins minus 10 mins = 5 hours and 35 mins of work.
6 hours minus 30 mins = 5 hours and 30 mins of work.
You get paid less to do more with a 5.75 shift.
5 hours and 45 mins minus 10 mins = 5 hours and 35 mins of work.
6 hours minus 30 mins = 5 hours and 30 mins of work.
You get paid less to do more with a 5.75 shift.
Virth 11 points 8m ago
Your logic is incorrect.
5 hours and 45 minutes w/ no meal break= 5 hours and 45 minutes of pay.
6 hours w/ a meal break = 5 hours and 30 minutes of pay.
You get paid more with with a 5.75 shift.
5 hours and 45 minutes w/ no meal break= 5 hours and 45 minutes of pay.
6 hours w/ a meal break = 5 hours and 30 minutes of pay.
You get paid more with with a 5.75 shift.
Dannidalion [OP] 16 points 8m ago
I took the shift anyways because I'm stupid
Leo_br00ks 45 points 8m ago
Just ask for 2 tens. Odds are the shift will be sympathetic. If they say no just go to the bathroom for 10 mins lol
Virth 6 points 8m ago
Honestly this. Unless everyone is drowning, i always gave partners extra breaks if they requested it. Just keep in mind that they may not happen as soon as you ask, other people need breaks too.
dontcry2022 1 points 8m ago
I wouldn't go to the bathroom for a whole 10, but 3 or 4 minutes seems reasonable. I usually go to the bathroom within a couple hours of my 10 out of necessity anyway since I drink a whole drink on my break. A couple minutes off the floor is the refresher I need to come back and do a good job the rest of the shift tbh lol
BabyH1ppo 14 points 8m ago
I'd rather that than have a lunch. Gets an extra 20 minutes of pay. Honestly they are probably doing you a favour
terunosuke 6 points 8m ago
will you get to be able to leave 10 minutes earlier? Instead of having to take a 30 min unpaid lunch break?
Puzzleheaded_You2601 10 points 8m ago
Some people need their breaks though. I, on the other hand, am fine not having a lunch if it means I can leave earlier. I don’t like being there longer than I have to especially not getting paid.
Luna_Raccoona 4 points 8m ago
They used to only give me one ten minute break on shifts that long. Then I started getting pissed and not trying to hide it. I had already threatened to quit a few months earlier. We are so short staffed that they caught my drift and started giving me two tens
mrnotfamous2299 3 points 8m ago
It’s not fair but it is allowed, most of my shifts are 15 minutes from having a lunch.
tregnoc 3 points 8m ago
It isn't fair but they're doing this intentionally to avoid having to give you a 30
tantelope 3 points 8m ago
These are the shifts I work every day.
GG. Make the most of your 10.
GG. Make the most of your 10.
gemlikbase 2 points 8m ago
I hate the 5.75. I just worked that today and dreading having to do it again next week. I come home more tired than I do working an 8 hour shift. Like cmon I’m shy 15 min dude just give me a lunch wtf 😭
Flowerfuls 2 points 8m ago
You get paid more for the 5 hours and 50 minutes than getting 10 more minutes to lose half an hour of pay.
Efficient_Scarcity37 2 points 8m ago
Yes it is fair my manager always did that shit
femalehomosapien18 2 points 8m ago
Im petty and would accidentally work 6
Ok-Interaction2251 2 points 8m ago
Another way to look at it though is if you take a lunch break for a six hour shift you’re really only getting 5 1/2 hours, so from a moneymaking standpoint you’re making less money but spending more time there. But I almost always close with one barista so my 30 minute lunch is always paid for
giftedburn0ut 2 points 8m ago
in my state, this would be illegal actually bc our laws require a break at 5 paid hours but I believe the companywide policy allows this unfortunately so it depends on your state
GiftSad5247 2 points 8m ago
At least in WA state:
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* First two hours you get a 10 minute break
* After 5 hours you get a lunch (paid or unpaid, but starbucks doesnt pay us for that lol)
* After 6 hours you get a 10 minute break (if only scheduled for 6 hours)
It depends on your state laws. If that were me when I was working id say no unless i either got a lunch or was able to leave 30 minutes before my scheduled time
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* First two hours you get a 10 minute break
* After 5 hours you get a lunch (paid or unpaid, but starbucks doesnt pay us for that lol)
* After 6 hours you get a 10 minute break (if only scheduled for 6 hours)
It depends on your state laws. If that were me when I was working id say no unless i either got a lunch or was able to leave 30 minutes before my scheduled time
Dannidalion [OP] 1 points 7m ago
Lotta people here seem to think this is a good thing cause more money haha, that's fair but for me I need breaks 😭
anti_binary 1 points 8m ago
My manager only allows one ten when Im on shifts that are 5 hours and 50 minutes.
It sucks but I used to work at Chipotle where I got 0 breaks for 7-8 hours of work... so... I suck it up haha
It sucks but I used to work at Chipotle where I got 0 breaks for 7-8 hours of work... so... I suck it up haha
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Hawkeye336699 1 points 8m ago
Not fair. But it’s a thing unfortunately. Just snack where you can. Take extra washroom breaks lol.
Kmsss 1 points 8m ago
Most people I know would rather have the $ than the break.
zeewur 1 points 8m ago
I always took quite liberal "15 minute" breaks when I was given these shifts.
amonsterinrehab 1 points 8m ago
You don’t earn a lunch until 6.25 hours. And technically you’d only get one 10 as well.
Jowila68 1 points 8m ago
Fair, no. Depending on state regulations, illegal. California, anything 5 hours or longer requires a 30 minute meal break. I don’t know about other states regulations
fourverticals3 1 points 8m ago
Quit this job it’s the best thing you’ll ever do
cocoabutterkissez 1 points 8m ago
not fair, im in socal we get a lunch if we work 5 hours period
rio8envy7 1 points 8m ago
6 hours is the minimum for a half
moonbean37 1 points 8m ago
honestly, you get paid 20 minutes more this way. I prefer it. I don’t like taking a lunch unless i’m working 7+ hours
lilkiosk 1 points 8m ago
Frequently if it’s that close, I have a couple shifts who will ask if I want to do a second ten. And if it’s 6 on the dot I usually get asked if I would rather do that instead of a lunch which I always say yes. Give me that extra 30 min of pay
Necessary_Low939 1 points 8m ago
Wow that’s messed up. Who does that 😐
Camellia_Sins 1 points 8m ago
Not sure where you're located, but where I am it's a requirement that if you hit six hours you get paid extra. My manager still gives us shifts like that, so I usually just clock in five minutes early and then "accidentally" stay five-ten minutes late to get that ot bonus. 🤷♀️
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Write it down. See if it keeps happening. Call ur bosses boss.
Torirock10 1 points 8m ago
well ur not working 6. ur working 5 hours 50 mins. it’s not fair but it’s the rule
anti-vax-mom 1 points 8m ago
I would get shifts for 5 hours and 75 minutes LOL I hate this company
YourEvilHero 1 points 8m ago
You guys get breaks at 6 hours? In my state you have to work a minimum of 8.
Jewicer 1 points 8m ago
8 = 2 30 min breaks
gingergal-n-dog -30 points 8m ago
Once you hit 5.46 you get a lunch.
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gingergal-n-dog -6 points 8m ago
Nah pretty sure I'm right. Thanks for the down votes. Lmao.
Hours are measured in 15 minute increments with regards to meal periods. Check the dcr... I'm very confident on this. If you work 5 and 50 you're entitled to a 30. 5 and 55, 5 and 58,
Hours are measured in 15 minute increments with regards to meal periods. Check the dcr... I'm very confident on this. If you work 5 and 50 you're entitled to a 30. 5 and 55, 5 and 58,
Montymania94 2 points 8m ago
I've been scheduled 5 and 50 many times, including yesterday, and the DCR does not include a meal break. My state (VA) doesn't mandate breaks at all, so it's also not company policy.
Torirock10 2 points 8m ago
no 😭
Beneficial-Weird-817 1 points 8m ago
Lol you're wrong though, at 6 hours you get a meal violation but before that you're not entitled to anything more than a 10.
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