What's your least favorite/most hated Starbucks "Standard" that we have to follow?(self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by yaboichichi
For me it's far and away the Clean, Safe, and Ready cards. I understand that they can be helpful for green beans, but my entire night shift crew and I have been doing this for some time now. We all know the exact routines and how to clean everything in the store and in what order. But I STILL have to pull out these stupid little slips and pass them out like they're Pokémon cards to my crew or else we get in trouble for not following standards.
lioness21x402 points8m ago
Batching fraps. It’s such bullshit. No one can taste the difference and if there is a rush or it’s peak, don’t expect me to make them one at a time
Ordinary-Theory-8289193 points8m ago
Makes no sense that you can blend a venti in one go, but for some reason 2 talls which is the same amount will have disastrous effects on the quality of the product
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Snarfungus19 points8m ago
you aren’t technically. but, if you make a venti to standard and then pour it into two tall cups it’s kind of a work around.
Levinem71726 points8m ago
As far as science, volume, and measurements go, there is no goddamn difference. I have no clue why Starbucks insists that it makes a difference.
Glittering-Charge-8315 points8m ago
there’s a lady who asks for 2 of the same very specific frap in SEPARATE BLENDERS but she can never tell the difference
mini_unknown_error10 points8m ago
I know that our store blamed our blender blades dulling really bad on the batching, but we still did it anyways.
PartyAnything3408336 points8m ago
FRAP BATCHING OMG im not gonna blend three tall caramel ribbon crunches separately im just not doing it..esp if they’re for the same car and made the same way…
badatlife1588 points8m ago
Especially with caramel ribbon and mocha cookies, you could do probably one venti and with the whip at the bottom make that into three talls.
Snarfungus20 points8m ago
^ i do this all the time lol
PartyAnything34084 points8m ago
My go to fr
Chromosomes2317 points8m ago
Mocha cookie and then I have a Java chip. Batching those cause they have the same base
StickyNoteMurdercat2 points8m ago
You beat me to this lol
olivinemultichrome151 points8m ago
I hate that venti hot drinks only get two espresso shots. I always follow it of course but it’s dumb and messes with the flavor and ratio compared to the smaller sizes.
whatisprofound78 points8m ago
This also annoys me and frustrates me as a consumer. If I'm getting a bigger size of a caffeinated beverage, it's because I want more caffeine.
LimeToaster9 points8m ago
In Australia it’s 3 except Americanos which are 4??! Weird
Historical-grey-cat8 points8m ago
Same in the uk
mommymary5 points8m ago
Yeah, in the US a venti latte is 2 shots but a venti americano is 4. 🥴
Edit: A venti iced latte is 3 shots, venti hot flat white is 3 ristretto, venti iced flat white is 4 ristretto. Very odd indeed
Mafiya72 points8m ago
How strange...
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udderlymoovelous83 points8m ago
My store doesn’t use them, the only time I’ve ever used them with my partners is when the RD and RVP were visiting my store. Me and my openers/closers are all tenured partners and don’t need them
Snarfungus18 points8m ago
i had an opening shift that would make us use the cards, even though it was usually me and another partner opening every day and we knew the steps. super annoying tbh
Vistril6974 points8m ago
not being able to sell blonde/dark roast or having to make a pour over after 10-11 am
AuthoringInProgress38 points8m ago
To be fair, I can understand the logic for this one. We don't usually sell a lot of brewed coffee at our store, even in the mornings, and if we brewed blonde and dark all day we'd be throwing out tons of coffee
SnoopyCactus98329 points8m ago
Nobody ever wants a pour over if they have to wait 5-7 minutes in my experience
Water-is-h2o59 points8m ago
Your experience is not universal, unfortunately
Awkward-for-You23 points8m ago
We have a regular who literally orders a pike place pour over every day. I was so confused the first time he asked for it.
Water-is-h2o13 points8m ago
Oof, thankfully your experience isn’t universal either
edreesmiraki12 points8m ago
...a pike pour over? ...why tf?...
Katerade__10 points8m ago
I don’t offer pour over, oops
SnoopyCactus9831 points8m ago
Whoops it’s okayyyyy
hindamalka7 points8m ago
I had a regular who always wanted an extra strong venti pour over in DT and knew when someone made an americano. I basically ended up splitting his pour over into 2 cups so that I could do an extra strong one faster. I was the only barista he didn’t hate because I did it right and he low-key gave me like a 20$ tip.
lewabwee4 points8m ago
I have more than only regular at the moment who come in almost daily to order a pour over.
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ILICKTREEZx34 points8m ago
We cut blonde at noon but we do dark roast all day. Especially at night, anyone coming in for a brewed coffee at 8pm only wants dark roast. No idea why.
Chub-boat3 points8m ago
Probably so the lower caffeine won't keep them up all night, assuming they work during the day.
genji20564 points8m ago
A small cup of coffee at night also hits different. I swear I sleep better on the random nights I decide to get some on a whim.
ILICKTREEZx32 points8m ago
My (unproven) theory is anyone getting coffee that late is also a "dark roast just black" kind of snob. (No hate on black dark roast or drinking coffee late I do both too, but you guys know what kind of customers I'm talking about)
DragonslayerKal63 points8m ago
Having to have completely open availability even of we have another job. Even if someone else is a worse employee and takes advantage of Starbucks’s leniency towards call outs and no call no shows they’ll still fire the person that can only work weekends.
Ordinary-Theory-828932 points8m ago
What? There’s no policy that says you have to have open availability? Starbucks is probably the most accommodating place I’ve ever worked when it comes to availability…
DragonslayerKal16 points8m ago
Not according my sm it seems. One of my favorite coworkers got canned cause she had to change her availability when school started (shes an elementary school teacher)
DragonTear0318 points8m ago
you have to have 12hr min and 18hr availability so they might have fallen short of that
AndrewFan04085 points8m ago
but some one at my store only work 4 hrs each week
HedgehogFarts6 points8m ago
We gotta start paying school teachers more.
Sure_Kiwi303724 points8m ago
That’s really weird? My availability is only weekends for school and get either 16 or 20 hrs a week
rszdemon11 points8m ago
16-20 hours on weekends? Are you working 2 or 3 days? In California that wouldn’t be possible for example. The absolute max you could do in two days is 16 hours. Anything more would be overtime.
Sure_Kiwi30379 points8m ago
Yeah from Friday to Sunday. I get a lot of 7.5 hr shifts
rszdemon7 points8m ago
Oh okay with Friday it makes more sense.
I was confused I thought you meant 2 10 hour shifts basically
DragonslayerKal6 points8m ago
So thats not normal?
Sure_Kiwi30379 points8m ago
It’s unheard of at my store I suppose. Each store is run differently so maybe your dm makes your sm do that
bmyoung157 points8m ago
The company standard in US corporate non-unionized stores is partners are to be scheduled 12 hours a week and have a minimum 18 hours availability. So if your store is open 16 hours a day and a partner is available all day Saturday and Sunday and is scheduled 12 hours over those two days, that meets the requirements. Now, SMs can deny an availability that doesn't fit business needs, but required open availability only applies to the SM 😗
DragonslayerKal1 points8m ago
Thats good to know thank you!
squamthesquid2 points8m ago
as everyone else said this is definitely not a standard, just an order from your SM or DM in my opinion is a terrible way to run things. if they took away the open availability requirement they would get more partners and would no longer need open availability because they would have enough people to fill the slots. i found that with the wage they pay working at starbucks is mostly for students or for people with a second job i rarely meet partners that have starbucks as their sole commitment. so it makes sense that your store requires open availability but it sounds like it’s your SM OR DM’s fault that that’s the case.
Nraveles1155 points8m ago
Frappuccino batching. I literally do not care nobody can taste the difference. There’s times when I make mochas or Java chips next to mocha cookies and do my little transitions into em by just adding Frappuccino chips 🤌🏽
witchyybabe51 points8m ago
my main store never uses those cards lmao, i transferred to a different one over the summer and i was so caught off guard when my shift handed me a couple
_easybeans23 points8m ago
The no nail polish policy. It makes sense why it’s a policy but it makes me so sad :(
But people always say it’s not just Starbucks it’s a health standard.. at all of my other food service jobs nail polish was okay as long as you wore gloves. Is it actually a health standard and those other jobs were just wrong lol?
Painting my nails is a big mental health thing for me and I get anxiety and pick and chew at my cuticles until they bleed. I just really wish I could wear nail polish and just wear gloves
SerotoninAndOxytocin8 points8m ago
It is a health code issue, the other jobs just chose to not fight that battle. It’s a health code violation because nail polish chips and gets into food product (I’ve seen it happen too. It’s not fun to explain to a customer). There’s no way around that. Acrylics are a violation because of the bacteria is keeps under the nail. :(
I’m sorry, I wish I had advice or a workaround that would help you. I know it’s not the same but would clear nail polish help you at all? Or maybe a bitter oil that you could use at home so you don’t chew and then wash it off at work?
Again, I’m really sorry you can’t do what helps your mental health. I hope you’re able to find something that helps. 💙
_easybeans1 points8m ago
Thank you. I just still don’t understand because the nail polish wouldn’t chip into the drinks if you’re wearing gloves. I appreciate your advice and caring ❤️
evenlyroasted5 points8m ago
wear clear nail polish and just don’t tell anyone lmfaooo
_easybeans1 points8m ago
U right
august40122 points8m ago
not being able to have my closed water bottle on the floor 😭😭 i am so thirsty and dehydrated, ALSO not being able to just have a sani rag sitting on the counter while i'm on bar, i don't want to have to wring it out when i need to use it every 30 seconds
GinasteraBabe8 points8m ago
The sani rag on the counter is more than just Sbux standard, that's a food safety issue. My store has gotten docked on our food safety scores for having sani rags sitting on the counters
august4011 points8m ago
lol i know i get that they need to stay sanitized and stuff like i don't use it for sanitizing i just need some kinda rag that's wet with sani or water so i can wipe up quick spills
alexadegrange19 points8m ago
Having to apologize when people are being jerks to you. The barista Craft training has a whole section where it teaches baristas to say “I’m so sorry!” everytime a customer abuses them and I DONT GET IT.
inightmareahighway5 points8m ago
for me it's gotten so so so hard to swallow my pride and just like. be responsive and use the latte model . i try and typically things go okay but i leave each negative interaction feeling more and more detached from caring, like at all. i used to rlly value the customer experience and i still do the work to make things better but i am seriously considering quitting, i feel like every customer who even looks at me while i'm on bar is literally praying for me to fail or like. crash my car on the way home because of some of the people ive dealt with . it's seriously so hard to take it anymore and i wish we didn't have to apologize to people treating us as trash beneath their feet
TylerJ71619 points8m ago
Wisking waters. Why do we gotta bring it to temp when we fifo out kegs and it's still gonna be in the fridge for a few hours before use
Myebix17 points8m ago
woah I think I'm missing something here, bc I have never whisked any sort of water what
TylerJ71615 points8m ago
As you should! But standard laws say to wisk ice and water for the cold brew kegs to ensure its up to temperature and that all ice is melted. BUT LIKE, water will sit in the fridge until it goes in a keg, and then the keg will sit in the fridge, and then everything will be fine and dandy and no one will need to make a fuss
Myebix11 points8m ago
I have never once heard that?? if cold brews are being rotated properly, they'll be in the fridge for like a day before they're used on high volume days. that's so weird.
TylerJ7165 points8m ago
EXACTLY!!! YES!!!!
edreesmiraki5 points8m ago
oh my store has never done that 💀 my manager said it is standard but just as ur saying theres no point and its annoying
insertusernameplease3 points8m ago
Doesn’t the ice clog up the line?
TylerJ7166 points8m ago
Yes !! SO LETS JUST NOT ADD ICE AND FULL SEND 5 LITERS OF WATER FROM THE FILTERED TAP!!!!!!!!!!
insertusernameplease5 points8m ago
Yeah idk why they make us do it at all lol
omaha-mike-golf2 points8m ago
For a really busy store it makes sense. When I worked at Starbucks, we had such a huge demand for cold brew on weekends, and we didn’t have enough kegs to keep up with demand. Whoever was on CS would have to whisk like a mad man to make a keg so we could keep the drinks coming
aspiringgrandpa15 points8m ago
the fact we have to make matchas in the shaker. they’re so much better in the cold foam blender and you can actually sequence your drinks while making it
evenlyroasted6 points8m ago
and the fact that iced matchas aren’t sent to cold bar for some reason? i hate being drive bar and having to go get in cold bar’s way so i can make an iced matcha
Rita_Rossweisse8 points8m ago
Dude, the new way they want us to handle cleaning pumps. “Put the pump in soapy water and pump the water through.” Like, THE PUMP IS STILL DIRTY! In between the cracks and around the seal still had mocha, or chai, or whatever. I don’t think it’s right we’re only cleaning those once a week. Its seriously not that big of an issue to put together again
myugglass3213 points8m ago
we’re only supposed to wash them once a week?? yuck!
fruit_enjoyer1 points8m ago
Thise are meant to be cleaned once a week?? I always take the pumps apart fully, and people have told me it’s unnecessary, but i thought that was just like…their personal opinion, not store policy. Gross
Rita_Rossweisse1 points8m ago
Yep. They recently came out with it on a weekly thing. I am disgusted by it but my manager is forcing us to follow it
geeg31317 points8m ago
Bruh we never do the cards at my store
Shoddy-Trainer-80516 points8m ago
For my store it’s actually the cs cycle. I break it all the time. They even have it printed by the coffee grinder and I refuse to follow it bc a) I’m not going into the lobby when there’s 60+ people out there and 3 tables, they’re gonna be full and messy and I’m not dealing with the crowd. B) we’re running out of product fast and I have to keep actively restocking for the planted positions. C) idc, I know what I’m doing and what to do to keep things running smoothly
moon_light5232 points8m ago
yeah I feel that. following a cycle like that to a t makes no sense bc people are able to do different things within different amounts of time
jazzysoranio6 points8m ago
Ugh. Those cards are such a waste of time. They’re not well written and there’s never a good space to put the actual whole setup. And they seem like a college project that some board member’s daughter put together and now we all have to be stuck with it.
The cards should just be an app on the store iPads.
setivalea1 points8m ago
They actually are on the ipad but theres not an app for it, its in store resources
jazzysoranio1 points8m ago
Yeah, I saw that. And at least it is a step in the right direction. But honestly, it takes longer to find them than it does to find our pile of cards stuck on the wall hidden somewhere out of the way. It really just needs to be an app where you can tap to see which ones are finished and which ones aren’t, and you can tap on each one to see what the tasks are.
setivalea2 points7m ago
Yeah I had no clue until I asked my SM about what day parts need to be doing what and she showed me that. As a shift I try to show my baristas, and develop my baristas on my day part with that knowledge but I can only do so much with my store. Definitely need to make it easier to get to!
Rubinaito6 points8m ago
Frap batching always bothered me.
nonogender4 points8m ago
i hated the CSR cards bc literally no one ever used them for the longest time and then suddenly my manager was on the shifts saying we HAD to use them like, i understand it's the standard but if i wasnt trained to use them, how am i gonna remember to??
iodge3 points8m ago
we don’t use the cards at my store i forgot they existed 😭 i’m so sorry you have to use them
djdementia3 points8m ago
I like the cards. The SSVs that don't hand them out tend to essentially are asking me to do someone "else's" job. If I'm going to need to do someone else's job as well as my own - I'd rather have a full list of the tasks rather than constantly be assigned random tasks outside my lane.
I've had a SSV ask me to sweep and mop the floors when I was supposed to be planted up front during peak. I hadn't had more than 30 seconds without a customer all morning. I straight up asked for my card, and she said no. So I reported her to the SM. How the hell am I supposed to sweep and mop and ring up nearly non stop customers?
Cards are there to protect you baristas from being assigned tasks outside your lane. Use them to your advantage.
ayavball052 points8m ago
omg i hate those cards too. our new temporary manger (long story short our manager quit and my store is drowning with this new one) loves to hand them out, especially during peak. like excuse me sir i’m over here soloing drive thru during a peak. i don’t have time for your dumb cards. like we all know what we’re doing and even with the greens beans, we don’t really use them. unless someone from upper manager is there
molwalk2 points8m ago
As a TL - all the paperwork. There are way too many sheets to fill in first thing in the morning and they have to be redone several times a day whether you have time for it or not. The shift standards planner is the most useless.
Astraterris2 points8m ago
We’ve never used any cards at my store. I’m not sure what that even is. We do have a laminated list for closing tasks we just check off as we do them.
yaboichichi [OP]1 points8m ago
They're basically these little rectangular cards, there's like 15/20 of them? One for every station and then some more for stuff out back and CS, and there's three or four different cards for every station, one for each section of the day, and we're supposed to pull the appropriate set of cards and the appropriate times and go through them all
Astraterris1 points8m ago
That sounds really tedious
ComfortableTooth89402 points8m ago
Following benign rules like when u have adhd and autism so you do everything a little different but still get it done in the same time and people always say I’m doing it wrong...like stfu worry about yourself ong
Turduckie1 points8m ago
Tbh the cards help me bc of my processing disorder
Anyway, the frap batching for sure.
Tarbucks08991 points8m ago
Wait you guys do t batch your frapps????
evenlyroasted1 points8m ago
at my store i’ve been getting in trouble a lot because i don’t hand out a drink at the same time that i take the customer’s payment at DTR, like??? it literally just makes it confusing for both of us
cutiepie9ccr1 points8m ago
lol the store i worked at never once used them
W0lf_20201 points8m ago
Omg we never use the cards. I don’t even know where they are
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SnoopyCactus98350 points8m ago
I have never once had to touch any food directly “to ensure a good quality product” any touching of the food can be done either with the tongs, through the plastic or with gloves. Also I highly doubt the temperature of every thing coming out of the oven is 165°+ to kill the bacteria. Stop touching the food.
Vegan_Sweetie-3 points8m ago
Considering that the ovens stay at 520 degrees, and considering that Starbucks would be sued for serving food that wasn’t correctly heated—I feel that you are wrong about the temperatures of heated food.
SnoopyCactus9832 points8m ago
Heated and cooked are two majorly different things and I’m done talking to you lmfao
Vegan_Sweetie-5 points8m ago
Ok, I’ll use a thermometer next time on the finished food, that way we can all know once and for all if starbucks food is full of pathogens after it exits the ovens. 😅
ElevatorsAreScary23 points8m ago
You wanna grab hot foot with your hands?? You wanna grab a grilled cheese or bacon egg bites straight out of the oven with your bare fingers? What the heck 🤢
Vegan_Sweetie-6 points8m ago
No—it’s the COLD food I was referring to, BEFORE it is heated, and BEFORE all the pathogens have been killed by heat.
jellyfish-vertigo4 points8m ago
Just... stop touching the food...
Vegan_Sweetie0 points8m ago
I don’t know why everyone is (a) assuming I *AM* touching the food because I said Tongs are annoying and (b) think that it’s actually a big deal.
*ALL PROFESSIONAL COOKS TOUCH THE FOOD*
The whole “use tongs” thing is just for show for the customers and has no basis in actual food safety.
MatchingColors18 points8m ago
Ehhh hahahah this is a hard one to get behind
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SnoopyCactus9832 points8m ago
This is why your SM is decreasing your hours(last post), you’re breaking standard/health code and you fight about it instead of being an adult. I don’t think you should be handling food.
Vegan_Sweetie-2 points8m ago
Actually I don’t fight about it. In person I just toe the line. Starbucks Reddit is my outlet of frustration. Lol.
Also: considering that I’m a new partner (6 months) and have only been stationed at warming 3 times in that 6 months—I highly doubt that my SM would make a decision based solely off of warming.
clee1221-18 points8m ago
To people complaining about CSR: do you know how to use them correctly? They’re SO helpful and are supposed to be used easily as a reference for are we clean, safe, and ready to serve. Most stores that I’ve observed not use them are the same stores that are absolutely gross, and have pest issues😭. That’s why clean play is also supposed to be simple… if you follow CSR you only need to deep clean so often
suneimi7 points8m ago
Not sure why you’re getting the downvotes. My current store never uses the CSR cards and with our high turnover rate it’s become a big problem with so many green beans - they end up learning all the “short cuts” and bad habits that have become ingrained in the staff - as a barista trainer and one of the fewer tenured partners at my store it’s extremely irritating how gross our store gets (especially with understaffing and callouts). The CSR cards are still very useful for training and setting a routine - once things are properly established in your crew I can see dropping the cards, but my store needs them right now for accountability and fair work load balance because people will “forget” all the time to do tasks here and there, which means someone else always has to do *more* work to pick up the slack. Lol, I actually got written up recently for the first time because my constant coaching (even to my SM, her first store) has started to make a few people “feel bad” which goes against SBux’s mission and values… 🤦🏻♀️Apparently I’m only allowed to train during my scheduled training shifts and after that I can only watch and grit my teeth when people immediately fall into the status quo of the store…. People don’t even (know how to?) use the days dots correctly and FIFO is a joke here… I have no idea how they would survive covering at other stores…
That being said, frap batching would take my vote for a standard that needs to be adjusted - but apparently SBux has some new stuff rolling out soon that’s supposed to speed up the frap routine, so we’ll see how that goes (I probably won’t be around much longer!)…
moon_light5234 points8m ago
literally apart of working at starbucks is partners being able to coach one another. it’s shameful to see someone get their pride in the way like that when they should be getting corrected.
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