To be honest, the whole sentence that contains the word lazy could just be removed. Or simply changed to, "We put it under the lid for a reason."

ETA: I don't think anyone is in wrong. I don't think they meant to shame the person who did it, and I don't think the person who replied added much to the conversation. If a word isn't gentle enough, you suggest a better one.

They’re overreacting, what other adjective do they want them to use? If someone is gonna get their feelings hurt over the choice of adjective in an otherwise gentle reminder, i’m of the belief that is their personal problem

can confirm, i was one of the fruit Flys

>What else would call a job that's been half completed if not *lazy*

I wouldn't call it anything. Why assign a moral value to something like that? I'd just say, "Just a gentle reminder that the plastic wrap goes over the food, not the entire container. It helps save our opening team some time during set-up when they don't have to unwrap the entire inclusions container, and we all know how vital those moments are! Thank you so much for supporting us by wrapping under the lid. If there's any way we can return the favor, let us know! We appreciate your thoughtfulness and help, you the real MVPs! Go team!" or something along those lines.

It’s pretty passive aggressive. I’m not totally against being passive aggressive but if you’re gonna be passive aggressive you should own it.

Nobody is in the wrong here. One person didn’t like a word someone used and the person who initially used that word apologized for it. From my point of view, “lazily” just means “in the easiest way” and isn’t necessarily negative, but I know that even my brother, who was raised in the same households, at the same time, and by the same parents, would interpret that word differently and assume he was being called “incompetent” in this context.

They could have said, the wrap doesn't go over the lid, instead under the lid.

Half-assed? Incorrectly assembled? If the person objecting is the one that screwed up, that's probably why they are pointing fingers.

imo this is all kind of fine. I don't think lazily is an awful word to use there necessarily, but I can see how if I was the one to do that, it getting called lazily would be miffing. (Honestly doesn't even seem like a lazy thing to do- sounds like the same amount of work? Just seems uninformed.) Looks like someone asked to watch the language we use, which is a fair warning, and the other person apologized. Honestly I'd say all good here.

I think you should usually assume the best of people...honestly people do not get a lot of training, and there are also things that are done store to store. I feel like a lot of the times people aren't doing things out of laziness but that they honestly just don't know how to do them, or are under the impression they are doing them right. Explaining why we do it a certain way is good enough to start, and If it is still an issue that you notice with a certain partner you can have a private discussion with them about it.

Imo...the person is overreacting. If they got upset because someone said not to do it the lazy way then I can't imagine how they will take on the real world... Also they're prob mad they got called out

The use of the word lazy is unnecessary but I don’t think they meant it in a harmful or insulting way (I don’t know them personally obvs but they did apologize) and tbh if they’re management they won’t get super far using terminology like that. But I didn’t read it as a huge deal. This whole conversation is just meh, whatever. Just fix the plastic wrap next time ig.

Manager is in the wrong for allowing this chat and the shifts to be in it. Working off the clock since no one is on salary

Plastic wrap?

The person complaining about the adjective seems a little ridiculous. I definitely wouldn’t have apologized but it’s also not a big deal either way I think

As a shift: you gotta take what you can get. At least their partners are taking the steps of using plastic wrap and lids. I would simply praise that they do that lol but the message comes off a bit passive aggressive tbh

“Lazy” is a value judgment; leadership can assume good intentions, approach from the standpoint that none of us gets paid enough to be the perfectionist some of us are naturally (and in my case, annoyingly 🤣). The sentence can be omitted which solves the problem of having a value judgement in there at all. The opinion about the lack of a thing being done isn’t the focus—the thing needing to happen and the rationale behind it is. We are all responsible for our own feelings and judgments put our feelings onto others.

Considering store group chats are already against Starbucks policy, I’d say your coworker is in the wrong for being passive aggressive about it. I don’t get paid to be coached off the clock, let alone fussed at.

Write it in the dcr and mention it to me in person.

Tbh it shouldn’t be that serious! Get the point, not make a reasons “why” for your obvious mistake.

Flys? Seriously? Give coaching back and say the plural of fly is flies

if you really believed there was nothing wrong with what you said, you wouldn’t have apologized. i understand having to be repetitive with simple tasks like that can be frustrating, but if you want your coworkers to like you, don’t talk down to them by calling them lazy.

Everyone, because why tf are you texting me outside of work?

I suggest not being so passive aggressive unless you want everyone talking crap

The person who apologized.

This team sounds exhausting lol

Who’s in the wrong? The idiots who are over prepping inclusions! Over prepping is indeed being lazy.

But you definitely shouldn’t call someone out on their coaching in a group chat, it’s classless

All of this is terrible. Y’all shouldn’t have a group chat, why are those in those containers? Why wrap them like that? They’re only good for 5 days if you have a fly problem why make so many backups? Y’all have bigger problems than your lack of conversational skills on both ends.

This is why I left Starbucks, partners are as sensitive as the customers.

No management should be calling staff lazy that just makes bad team morale. Explain the issue and why it shouldn’t happen without insulting people.

The person replying sounds unnecessarily passive aggressive. This may sound dramatic but it’s like they aimed to humiliate the supervisor since it’s a gc the whole team can see

Probably not the best way of going about it. As a shift you shouldn’t be shaming anyone in a public group chat. Bringing down your team isn’t going to help you in the long run, so this is more of a pick your battles type situation. If you know which partners it was then pull them aside.

So people who aren't currently working are getting this text when they're not at work clocked in? Starbucks doesn't pay enough for that y'all.

It’s the same thing. If u cover the entire container

Honestly I’d say there’s no wrong or right. In theory, it could’ve been restructured better but “lazily put on” is not inherently calling anyone out as lazy or incompetent. I wouldn’t think much of the way it was said as I just can’t be bothered much as to how information is conveyed more than *what* is conveyed.

Depending on the dynamic, my team often calls each other out like that but from a playful side. At the end of the day, I say it depends on the context, the dynamic and how the discussion takes place. Generally speaking, when engaging in business correspondence I try to be reserved with language. Keep things as brief and to the point but also not too dry or lacking in information. Again, depending on the context and so many things but I’d I say the only one who can really judge is the members involved in it. Context clues, tone, pitch, tempo and many things that aren’t even widely known play a huge role in the dynamic system that language is.

Whoever put “lazily” can find a more convincing way to get their point across. Saying things like that in a corrective manner isn’t going to make anyone listen or care.

all of them lol

A little too technical here but it’s funny! 🤣 Where you going when you need a shift covered and have no ones numbers? Hmmmm… I’m not getting paid! I can’t ask for help! 💀💀

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