Can someone explain the no $20s in the drawer rule?(self.starbucksbaristas)
submitted by CLEf11
How is it a safety thing? What sense does it make? Some people pay with $50s snd $100s snd were supposed to give them a bunch of small bills? Not only is that annoying for them it also has the possibility of nearly clearing out our cash drawer. Does anyone know if there is actually a good reason for it or if it's just another "it's policy just because" type thing. I know they say it's for safety but I really don't see how. If a robber comes were gonna have to get the $20s out of the drawer anyway
maddogracer161330 points8m ago
So, from a safety standpoint, if you drop all bills from $10-$100 into the drop box, then if you ever get robbed there is still remaining funds secured. You also instill into the public that you *never* have change for any large bill, this dissuades people from robbing you because you never have money in your tills.
Counterpoint, Walmart gets robbed more frequently during tax season because they have more money in their tills.
FTorrez8192 points8m ago
I worked at Walmart and during peak hours, some of our tills had anywhere between $4-8k at some points. Especially the ones in electronics.
During tax season, our money center/ customer service drawers *started* with $20k
VentiEggBite18 points8m ago
Reminds me of when I worked at Loblaws in a neighbourhood without much access to banking and credit, and I’d usually lift anywhere from 1-2k from each till when I started the deposits midday.
MountainGoat99921 points8m ago
Bob Loblaw's Law Office? Did you drop any Bob Loblaw Law Bombs?
Swimming-Fee-244510 points8m ago
Did you read about the blog on the Bob Loblaws Law Blog?
insanityizgood130 points8m ago
Love seeing a Kitboga reference in the wild!
FTorrez8113 points8m ago
At least you guys did the deposits. The Walmart I worked at, it was effectively the norm to just let all the tills collect money throughout the day and the drops started 2 hours before closing.
We were required to do periodic register audits, but not drops. Never witnessed a robbery though.
At closing time, we’d collect all the tills from around the store in a big metal cart, and this would happen while there are customers in the store, we were required to have security walk with us. Even then, it was just me, a security guy, and $40k unsecured in a cart with a broken lock.
Never change, Walmart.
VentiEggBite2 points8m ago
We would take a pencil case and do it with any coworker who happened to be standing nearby. Except at night when I closed out the pharmacy, deli etc. and would have to carry it around alone because they left me with one cashier.
billwood091 points8m ago
That’s a low blow, Loblaw
Trumps_left_bawsack3 points8m ago
20k in till drawers is a terrifying amount of money to have easy access to 😬
vegan-trash1 points8m ago
Holy shit
vegan-trash1 points8m ago
Also where you trying to stuff those twenties cause there’s no space in the drawer lol
badatlife15219 points8m ago
Why does Starbucks need to be a bank for customers? Why do people carry around $50s/$100s in the first place? On the rare occasions I get a large bill I either save them to make a large purchase somewhere like a dept store or I do what makes most sense and put it in the bank. I would much rather not have large bills on me if I were ever robbed and having been harassed by a scam artist once I try not to carry any cash. Putting 20’s in the drop box might not completely stop a robber from getting them, but it can definitely slow down and deter it from happening, giving time for help to come/robber to be scared off.
edreesmiraki64 points8m ago
thisssss, it gets me so tight when they pu wit a 100 bill and then get tight when i say we dont have change and they have to grab a 10 or 20 instead. or when they pull out a 50 or 100 and say they dont have anything smaller when you can literally see smaller bills in their wallet 😐
rusted1714 points8m ago
Some people cash their checks/get paid and r only given large bills. I say no but I know sometimes it’s just what they’re given. Depends on where u live
badatlife1524 points8m ago
I mean I get that, but why don’t they cash those at a big store or even get one of those refillable debit card things, it just seems safer. Especially because often if you tell them they’re only going to get 5’s and 1’s back they somehow miraculously pull out a card/smaller bill. I know in the past i had a shift tell me to just give them their order without taking the big bill, so I’m often skeptical if they aren’t just hoping that will happen.
Renyx7 points8m ago
You can literally walk into any bank and ask them to exchange a large bill for smaller ones, or if you need them you can exchange cash for quarters, and they will do it. It is the most basic service that they provide.
rusted173 points8m ago
Fair considering ur experience. No one in NY would allow that
doppio32111 points8m ago
I’ve had somebody come in and wait in a long ass just to get change for a $50 and proceeds to get pissed at us for giving him a bunch of small bills. Kind sir, if may so kindly remind you this is Starbucks not Wells Fargo.
badatlife1512 points8m ago
Right? Like almost any fast food place I’ve ever been to has signs saying they don’t accept over $20 bills, why should Starbucks be any different. Especially with Starbucks having so many options to pay, credit card, mobile wallet, Starbucks app, like do you really not have any other way to break that large bill?
keskobalt3 points8m ago
That’s why I say we can’t take it and they can go anywhere else to get change. Luckily we have gas stations right next to us
emiistarrchilld1 points8m ago
Yessss. I've been handed a $50 and asked to make "change for the bus." I work in a mall location with a bank in it and I'll direct people there in these cases. Waste mah time.🤦♀️
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CLEf11 [OP]-7 points8m ago
Fair enough... it probably would slow the process. Thanks for not being condescending and assuming I'm an idiot because I thought a robber would also demand to see our cash box...it seemed like a logical thing for someone to demand if they're already there robbing the place and breaking the law
badatlife158 points8m ago
I mean I get the logic of thinking they would want bigger bills, but also because the drop boxes are lower and typically out of sight, they may not be able to figure it out as quickly that there’s other sources of money. This is one of the reasons I’ve been told we’re not supposed to ask a shift to open the lock box to get change. I’ve definitely had conflicting info about if and when I should accept over a $20. Generally, if I’m on a register, especially DTW I try to mentally keep track of any 10’s I have so if someone wants to break a larger bill I have a decent idea if I can or not. If they have a large total and I have 10’s I don’t mind, but if they’re trying to break a 100 for a $5 total I won’t accept it. I like to think if I were ever in the situation of being robbed I would be scared enough to play dumb and say I don’t know if they are asking for larger bills and/or quick enough to say the drop box was recently deposited into the safe. But I’m solely going on what I see from tv and movies and probably very naive about what it would be like in that situation.
Comfortable-Plane94478 points8m ago
We’re not supposed to accept anything larger than $20s.
peepeepoopaccount28 points8m ago
Does it depend on the store? I always ask a shift or manager if someone wants to pay with a $50 or $100, and they just tell me to ask if they have another form of payment but can accept it if we have the change and they have literally nothing else
miniinovaa20 points8m ago
I think it can depend on the store. There’s no company policy but some stores won’t take them because they’ll just run out of 5’s and 1’s (because we aren’t allowed to open the drop box) so quickly, also less chance of counterfeit.
PoppyPancakes-5 points8m ago
We can ask if they have another form of payment but we aren’t supposed to turn away legal tender
Blocked_ID4 points8m ago
“Legal tender” only matters for the purpose of debts.
PoppyPancakes10 points8m ago
This isn’t true company wide at least
AppointmentLatter3027 points8m ago
This what my store does unless order super huge like close to 50$ or close to 100$ that only time we accept them
calimac903 points8m ago
I actually found a standard with a flow chart on what to do with larger bills 50s and 100s. It’s in the portal under resources and under cash management. Your ASM or SM can pull it up, but I believe all should have access to the info.
verdeuce1 points8m ago
Who is we
CLEf11 [OP]-7 points8m ago
That changes
At first I was told we're not supposed to
Then it was fine if it's a 50 gift card
Now we're allowed but we have to tell them we only have small bills
neilgreenbreen16 points8m ago
You can accept large bills to reload gift cards because you don’t need to make change for that, you just take their cash. As others have said, it’s to mitigate the loss in the event of a robbery. A drawer full of 1s and 5s is less of a monetary loss than a box of 20s, which at my store can contain several hundred dollars if it’s during peak
CLEf11 [OP]-13 points8m ago
But a robber is not going to just bypass the cash box...They're going to ask for that too
neilgreenbreen21 points8m ago
How would they know we separate the bills? Most robberies occur very quickly and with less preparation than you’re envisioning. “Take the money and run” is a well-known phrase for a reason
ElijahLordoftheWoods8 points8m ago
You don’t have a key to the drop box, most people dont even know there IS a drop box. I’ve worked for businesses that have been robbed, it’s also a liability issue with insurance. Think about how many tills are in just your store, multiply that by 6,000. We have 6 tills. That’s like 36,000 tills. Taking large bills out of the equation secures hundreds of thousands of dollars every day across those stores.
breaking_goddess2 points8m ago
Yeah but if someone is robbing the place they’re trying to get in and get out. It takes a second to open up the register and then the cash box. Plus…having all those $20’s in the box isn’t following cash standards either. Any excess funds (be it the tip jars, the register drawers or the drop box) need to be removed and secured in the safe. Your idea is right, thinking what’s one box vs another? That’s exactly why cash is supposed to be secured in the safe once there is an excess.
Comfortable-Plane9446 points8m ago
Well you pointed out some people have with 50’s and 100’s and I pointed out you’re not supposed to accept that, because it drains the store of cash on hand. And if you were to be robbed, you wouldn’t be able to get the 20’s out for them because we put them in those boxes instead of the drawer 🙄
CLEf11 [OP]-5 points8m ago
Which we'd likely still have to access if we were robbed
Comfortable-Plane9448 points8m ago
Um no you can only access them with keys 🙄
sethonomics6 points8m ago
I think Starbucks is hoping they won’t want to waste the time having that opened also
cvpocoffee-4 points8m ago
some SSV are okay opening the 20$ drop box for 100$ bills but usually only when it’s slow and they got the time.
PoppyPancakes36 points8m ago
As someone else said, it’s to mitigate losses. If there’s only small bills in the drawers then they’re only losing a couple hundred. If there’s big bills they can be losing thousands. I know you’re going to come back with “bUt A rObBeR iS goNnA mAkE yOu oPen iT anyWaY” and that’s not true. They want to get in and out as fast as possible. Drawers are a quick open and they’re gone. They aren’t going to wait for the key holder to shakily grab the keys and panic getting the box open. And as a key holder there are other tactics to help prevent major cash loss that it looks like you thankfully aren’t in a position to be trained on or understand.
miniinovaa12 points8m ago
Yeah because the barista has to leave and get a shift supervisor, alerting them, meaning there’s more time to possibly call the cops. Robbers want to be in and out.
Swimming-Fee-2445-2 points8m ago
Yes but I barely take cash these days. I’d say only about 10-15% of our customers pay with cash, and it’s always the ones who buy one cup of coffee. Most of my customers these days pay with their phones or the app so when we do take cash it isn’t often but they might pay you with a $20 bill, which you need to drop. Then you’ll get that ONE person with a large bill and you have to empty out your drawer to give them their change in $5 bills and coins. I think we should be okay to keep larger bills in the drawer, and then every few hours or every $100 for example then you make a drop. I’ve said this to management as an idea and they didn’t agree. But hey, who am I but a lowly barista?
CLEf11 [OP]-17 points8m ago
Just because I assumed that a robber would demand a shift open a cash box doesn't mean I'm an idiot and I don't appreciate being treated as such. It may have been an incorrect assumption but it's not outside the realm of rational thought
hauxbi15 points8m ago
You’re not an idiot and nobody’s calling you an idiot, however if you’re a barista that means you should have gone through several trainings on what to do if a robber enters the store or any other emergency situation, which is why people are saying what they’re saying. you should’ve received training and you should know why we do that and that robbers aren’t gonna wait 10 min for you to get the shift so they can open the safety deposit box. that doesn’t make you an idiot however you either didn’t really pay attention during training or your manager failed to train you guys properly.
Imaginarybluntallday3 points8m ago
*THIS* *This right here is the correct answer*
PoppyPancakes7 points8m ago
You were arguing constantly and refusing to accept the answer multiple times 😂😂
CLEf11 [OP]-10 points8m ago
Because I didn't think the answer accounted for the possibility that a robber would do that
megs12887 points8m ago
How would they even know it’s a cash box though?
toasterstrudelboy11 points8m ago
Yeah, I just like to customers and say "I could take it, but I think we'd be getting to the level where if have to start giving you rolls of nickels. Got anything smaller?" They almost always do.
morningchampagne3 points8m ago
I do this too. If they continue to throw a fit I’ll suggest a Starbucks card so all of this can be avoided next time and now they get more stars. People are crazy over stars.
CLEf11 [OP]0 points8m ago
I've had a couple throw a fit because the large bill was all they had
sukittrebek6168 points8m ago
Same here. And I apologize to them as I cancel their transaction because we don’t have change for a $5.00 order being pain with a hundred.
verdeuce5 points8m ago
Let them throw a fit. Pretty soon they will realize that they will only get small bills from us and they should leave the house equipped with something other than a single 100 bill to pay for their expenses for the day.
Kmsss1 points8m ago
It is never all they have. When you offer them rolled coin…. Suddenly they change their mind and remember.
FunkyChewbacca7 points8m ago
When I was a partner we’d have people come in at 6 am, buy a coffee with a hundred dollar bill and wipe out everything in the drawer. Sometimes it’s because of that.
madihasson5 points8m ago
This is my understanding: $20 and over go into the drop box to save us money in case of a robbery, like everyone is saying. I’ve never worked anywhere else that has dropboxes and i doubt robbers are doing enough research before coming in to know they even exist. Supervisors are not allowed to take money out of the dropboxes unless they are dropping money into the deposit bag, and we are never supposed to do it in sight of customers. Yes, its annoying when people want to break big bills. And no, we are not allowed to reject someone’s money because we don’t want to clear out the till. The best we can do is warn them that they might receive rolls of coins.
NeonnSloth5 points8m ago
it's to protect you from robbers lmfao almost every fast food drive thru business has the same rule
megs12885 points8m ago
At my store we aren’t allowed to break 50s or 100s
zshadowhunter4 points8m ago
First, if your using anything larger then a 20$ for coffee fuck the right off.
But second as someone whose been held at gunpoint in sbux, I'm glad we make it not worth it it rob us. Take the cups those have a far better resale value.
sten454 points8m ago
From a risk management standpoint a time lock safe, only works if there’s not excess money in the registers at any given time
MasterMischievous1 points8m ago
I mean sorta, but it depends on your pickup schedule. If a robber came to my store late Thursday night, he might be able to take 1-2k out of the EOD tills on a good night, but having a time lock safe is gonna save the company like 12k or so. (We empty it twice a week) that being said I think 2k is pretty excessive to have in the tills at any given time but the time lock safe makes a big difference.
Electrical_Metal_1063 points8m ago
As someone who has been robbed while at work, I can say yes, the $20s stayed secure. The person robbing me had no idea about the drop box and was content to take what was in the drawer (which was close to $100).
Also, we are not a bank! Stop trying to buy a $3 coffee with a $100 bill. You get what you get.
CLEf11 [OP]3 points8m ago
I'm sorry that happened to you 😔
Electrical_Metal_1062 points8m ago
Aw, thank you. It was surreal for sure but I felt safe in the fact that if I gave them the money, they would just leave and not cause violence. I had so much support from the partners. My SM, DM and RD all showed up and they got a Lyra counselor to come to our store. We shut down for two days to support the partners. It really was the best case scenario for something like this. I have to say it was handled so well.
lillyloveswriting3 points8m ago
I never let partners except $50 or $100 bills. Cause 1. A bunch of them don’t know how to tell if it’s real or not, 2. The customers usually give us those big bills when it’s a $5 order, and 3. There are literally two different banks in the same plaza. We are not banks and more than likely, we have most of the big bills in the safe throughout the whole day. I’ve gotten into arguments with customers who say “we only have this bill!” And get upset that we don’t have change. And when I don’t let up they 95% of the time pay with card or end up giving me a smaller bill.
Necessary_Low9393 points8m ago
$20s go in the safe box. They never explained why
Many-Guest24152 points8m ago
Let’s just say that it’s very effective. I won’t go into details but it’s 100% necessary. It’s not just about customers robbing. There are security measures for a number of different reasons 🥰
nezaket1 points8m ago
ominous comment..
Many-Guest24151 points8m ago
Eh I just want to be careful with what I say here cause I’ve heard that people get fired if they post something that is against Starbucks.
sakuramads2 points8m ago
Tbh I tell them I don't have any change or hand them rolls of quarters and they usually magically have another form of payment.
Trumps_left_bawsack2 points8m ago
To deter robbery, and if they do still rob you then it minimises losses since they won't necessarily know that there is a drop box. That's also why drops should be done throughout the day so there's a minimum amount of money that could potentially be stolen. You can just open the till and be like "Oop that's all the money we have", and they're not gonna wait around for the safe to open either cause they're more likely to get caught that way. You also don't need to have the 20s in the drawer since you shouldn't really be using them for change. If a customer is paying for a $5 drink with anything higher than a 20, then you're well within your right to request a smaller bill or alternative form of payment.
Advanced-Grapefruit42 points8m ago
It's to reduce the risk of robbery, at my store we're not even allowed to take any bill higher than 20, So it doesn't matter if someone wants to break a 50 or 100 because we simply can't do it.
Torirock100 points8m ago
what if their order is like 45 dollars or smth lmao
Advanced-Grapefruit42 points8m ago
Obviously if the order is $45 I'll take the 50 because there's enough change to cover it in the register but if the order is $30 or less, I'm not gonna take the 50 nor the 100 because I'm literally not allowed to.
Massive_Struggle11101 points8m ago
I thought it was against policy to accept $100?
BigDillLadyPickle1 points8m ago
You can tell them you don’t have enough in your till for a 100 unless it is a super large order like a 70 dollar order
alicetracie1 points8m ago
Usually at my store unless the total is close to a big bill (50 or 100) I'll usually ask my shift if we'll have enough in the till to give them change. So unless we'd be able to give a person change and still have cash in the till generally we won't except a bigger bill
AndrewFan04081 points8m ago
I do get $100s so many times, but those are from people who buy drinks for the whole office and cost at least $80
graylikesoap1 points8m ago
i always assumed so we don’t get robbed robbed if someone takes the drawer
CLEf11 [OP]1 points8m ago
I assumed they'd demand the box too but apparently the chances of that are pretty low
Kmsss1 points8m ago
The idea is that they don’t know about the boxes…
mathwifey1 points8m ago
So this has been an issue at my store recently due to the amount of $50’s and hundreds We get at my store. We get alot, and for some reason we insist on taking them that literally wipes out change to the point we end up having to deny cash tenders for even $20’s and $10’s because we have no change. According to a flowchart I found online at work we are to take them if we have the change in the drawers and they have nothing smaller and are okay with accepting small bills and potentially rolls of quarters,we are not to get an SSV to open the drop boxes or safe to make change for these bills, if they have nothing smaller and are not okay with receiving small bills the flow chart says to “right now recovery” the transaction
yuribuny1 points8m ago
they do this almost everywhere in some capacity when i worked at a grocery store we had to put it in a safe for 20$ bills or higher and when i worked at a cellphone store we had to keep it underneath the physical tills just in case we ever got robbed
Gameb0i61 points8m ago
We’re supposed to accept all types of bills. I do it all the time but I let them know it don’t have anything larger than a 5 in my till and it usually deters them from paying with it. I also had a partner accept a $100 bill the other day and they came to me asking for change. So I had to coach them on how to properly accept it. They really need to be aware of how much is in their till at times. It’s annoying when they try to a Sept a large bill then t come to me and ask if they have change. Like I’m supposed to magically know what’s in your till at all times. 🙄
Vegan_Sweetie1 points8m ago
In short—
Theft.
Not having large amounts of cash in the tills discourages thieves from thinking of Starbucks as an easy-grab.
Ultimately, keeping mostly-empty tills keeps everyone safer, including Baristas, because you’re just far less likely to experience armed thieves if you have no money to give them.
Regarding large bills—my store simply doesn’t accept them. We rarely accept a $50, and only if the cost of the order is more than 1/2 the bill-ammount.
emiistarrchilld1 points8m ago
Our store will take $50s or $100s if you have to. I make it clear we don't keep much in bills in the till if they really want to break it and love to look them in the eye as I hand them a wad of $5s back. We only will do it if we're able to, so first half of the day. Anything after that we don't and ask for smaller tender or encourage debit/credit. It's definitely an LP tactic as to why we drop larger bills. The idea, like said before, is to make it as hard as possible to rob us. It's more common at a Sbux to have your tips stolen which is why most stores where I'm from will drop tips per shift change to ensure there's not that much in the tip jars.
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