Why do you want to continue it? It just creates more unneeded animosity between partners.

Corporate is already trying to drive a wedge between us, and even in jest, they don’t need any assistance. I know you have no malicious intent, I’m just sick of this “debate.”

I might get downvoted for saying this, but while I 100% get frustrations from both sides (I’m usually a closer), we all need to realize that the store can’t run without both teams.

If opening is so easy then just switch shifts and stop fucking complaining.

this debate makes me laugh bc my store was so ass backwards. as an opener i had to pill the espresso machines, clean, stock, take out garbages that were left full, and make whips for the day…. in addition to all the actual opening tasks….. by myself….. no second opener just an ssv…. so i really think it’s not a debate between the specific shifts but between you and your coworkers. some openers suck, some are great. some closers suck, some are great

i work opens mids and closes. each job has it hard for its own reasons. if you work at a store that has a “debate” between which shifts work harder then you need to move to a different store that treats each other like a team, not a competition. such a fucked view of your coworkers. you’re all there for the same reason.

Openings were fit for me when I was working at Starbucks until my store closed mid summer this year.

1) I have basically a full day to myself after work

2) My store opened at 4:30am, so we got there at 4am, did our morning tasks such as the food case, date the foods, fill the ice, turn espresso machines on, etc.

3) You get a few hours to fully wake up before the rush (7am for my old store). You can stand around, my shifts were cool so we'd just prep things or drink coffee and chat. This is also a good time to build some customer connections (lol) with the regs that come in the morning. I worked by a hospital so we did have some early morning birds.

4) (and again) your day ends at 12pm!!!!!!1 take a giant nap once you get home or yolo and just stay up (risk the energy crash at like 3pm tho) you don't rly have to stay later doing closing

It really depends on location. Some locations get swamped early, and it's non-stop for many hours. Others have evening rush and doing closing while also doing rush is a nightmare. As I mentioned in other thread, everyone needs to work as a team. If closers didn't get to all the dishes, mop all the floors, or didn't take out all the trash, openers need to step up and take care of those tasks. It doesn't help anyone complaining about how closers are so bad they left us trash or they didn't clean the lobby completely.

As an opener/peak worker, I consider cleaning a privilege.
Cleaning is so relaxing compared to making 100 drinks per half-hour, or socking hundreds of items as we burn through them faster than you can say bob’s your uncle.

If I could, I’d switch to being a closer, since you hardly have to make any drinks, (like 25 per half-hour, tapering down to like, 15 at the end.) You *also* get to just zone out and clean stuff.
Plus—you get free food as often as not. 🥲

Also, since you don’t have to wake up at 3:00 am, you’re probably all rested and shit.
Sure, you probably don’t get off until 10:00 sometimes, but I used to not get off until 11:00 when I worked at Subway, and it isn’t too bad. You can just sleep late the next morning, with *no worries* of being late to work. It’s practically impossible for you to be late to work (which is less mentally stressful) I have nightmares about being late to work. 😅

Sure, working late impacts your social-life, but so does waking up early, since you have to sleep in the afternoon to makeup for waking up at 3:00 am.

I do get it, since you’re so short-staffed, you probably run back and forth a lot to get things done—but so do openers. Only for you, nothing too dreadful will happen if you go slower. You’ll just get off later. What happens if I go slow in the morning when we only have 2-3 people (during our first 3 hours of work) is that we’ll have a line around the building and customers cussing me out and flipping me off and calling me a horrible idiot of a waste of space if their coffee or tea isn’t ready *right now* if I went a little too slow opening (think—5 minutes too slow) Decaffeinated zombies are just—cruel sometimes. I feel like the evening customers are happier since they’ve probably already had some coffee earlier in the day. 😃

It’s not really a debate. Our opening shift is five people standing around sipping coffee out on the floor while their main SSV finds things to whine about in My Daily. Closing is a race to finish up on time every night.

I am my stores primary barista opener. Meaning I prob open like 20 days a month. Every morning that I open I have to make a bunch of backups, stocking, prepping and such, I have to label pastries, and throw away pastries they didn’t at least twice a week. And I got in the habit of always checking dates on RT&D cause the closers miss them

Morning is easier by far. I've done both. I prefer closing though because I like cleaning.

Work both shifts and you can decide for yourself. Both have challenges and neither is easy, stop comparing them. Plus every store is different too. If you don’t like your shift it’s not hard to change it either

Me, feeling privileged to be a parent only available during school hours 🙃

closers don’t get free food lmao we have to donate it cuz someone snitched on the shifts to the manager that they were giving away food to us

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