waits for someone to exit and they leave the door open for him or he grabs it before it closes
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Have_Donut24 points7m ago
Could be a master service number for the lock.
There also could be just an electronic relay that can be trigger with a magnet. Some electronic locks have this flaw and can be opened with a magnet to their side faster than punching in the code.
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Have_Donut8 points7m ago
Here is a video of a magnet attack btw. It is super simple and most standalone electric locks are vulnerable. At this point if this is the case I would recommend calling the police, as intentionally bypassing some else’s lock is a crime in most states
https://youtu.be/XXW27KKHtc8
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themugglebookworm22 points7m ago
I get that we are supposed to be an "inclusive" company. But at what point can we start making the bathrooms available for paying customers only? They are always so disrespectful to our bathrooms, and the fact that you have to change the code 2 or 3 times a day is super excessive and is more hassle for you guys than it's worth. Homeless or not, if you can't respect our shit, you don't get to use it.
flutise12 points7m ago
Could be the lock is taped down
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Hazel_is_Trans7 points7m ago
Do a complete reset of the lock and re do the code
linseeded6 points7m ago
My old store had a crap lock that would get loose in humid months and be able to be yanked open without a code if someone used enough elbow grease. Also my store has a timer light that goes off if someone’s been in there too long - the store next to us has had 3 OD deaths in the past 5 years :/
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linseeded2 points7m ago
Yeah it’s rough out here. I hope y’all figure out what’s up with the lock tho… I would suggest trying to man handle it open, it could very well be the same issue as my last store
HAM1SH1 points7m ago
I worked at a busy mall location that had a lot of homeless people coming in to use the bathroom often and we would have to check on them every 5 minutes after the first 10 if they didn't come out, we had a timer for bathrooms
I'm sure it was set sometimes for people who just looked kind of "sketchy" but we couldn't be sure so we would just set it to remind us that someone was in there and they could be up to something, we referred to it as the sex timer because it came in to fruition from a sex incident
Luckily we were in a mall so we had mall security, if someone was in there for more than 20 minutes, and were either refusing to come out or unresponsive, we told them we were calling security (we would always wait an additional 5 before calling if they were telling us they just needed more time or anything like that, usually they would leave before we called)
More than once people were unresponsive after 20 minutes and we had to get security to open the door, more than one of those times the person was overdosing or in some other kind of medical disress, but the majority of the time if there was an issue it was needles left behind or blood on the sink, usually both honestly
One time someone stole the hand dryer, the whole damn thing, they got it off the wall, and walked out of our very small but weirdly shaped Cafe and poof, no hand dryer in the bathroom no more.
Suspicious-Crystal-9 points7m ago
Imagine "knowing" someone was homeless without knowing a damn thing about them.
Same energy as those "Karens" who tell police a brown person is in their apartment building or pool.
I get the idea, people shouldn't have special codes, but let's stop labeling people as homeless or anything else as part of the narrative.
Yuck.
HAM1SH3 points7m ago
Honestly, it's pretty obvious when someone is bathing in the bathroom at Starbucks that they're nor exactly in a stable living situation
The idea that I have to treat someone who took a shit on the floor with the same respect that I treat the little old lady who comes in for tea and treats is fucking laughable
Comfortable-Plane9440 points7m ago
Wow you’re trash. Have some empathy for people. You don’t know what hat has happened to them . Just treating people as human can make a big difference to their world
HAM1SH0 points7m ago
Wow, I've literally been homeless
It's hard to have empathy for people who shit on the floor in a business places bathroom.
Let alone those who leave needles behind for baristas to deal with.
This is reality, not a fucking fairytale
Suspicious-Crystal-1 points7m ago
Ok? You missed my point.
HAM1SH3 points7m ago
I don't think I did, I think your point was not to assume someone is homeless even if it would be obvious to anybody with eyes
You're not helping homeless people by acting like they don't exist
FYI, I've been homeless, your take is a bad take
Suspicious-Crystal-1 points7m ago
I would be just as irritated if OP said a black or handicapped or trans or skinny or blind person had the code. These aren't part of the story... it is the access to the code....
Unless I'm mistaken? You think OP was upset because a person who looked a certain way had the code?
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Comfortable-Plane9440 points7m ago
I don’t understand why this has been downvoted so much. I agree with you. People make way too many assumptions about people without knowing anything
HAM1SH0 points7m ago
An educated guess is not the same as an assumption, nobody is disallowing them from using the bathroom, they just want to make sure they know who is in the bathrooms so they can prepare if something goes wrong
You're obviously coming from a place of never having had someone die in your stores bathroom
hatman_v4-25 points7m ago
What's wrong with a homeless guy using the bathroom? Do you want him taking a piss on the street?
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hatman_v45 points7m ago
Ah ok, I don't work in a store with codes so I'm not sure about the protocol there. I would've liked a code in my old store as we had people doing drugs and leaving the needles quite frequently.
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PerformanceWeary132818 points7m ago
Im very glad you have not had to deal with cleaning up after a homeless person, but it can be a lot more than "just peeing." When you are using a public starbucks bathroom for basic necessities like cleaning yourself every single day, it's not only unhygienic in general, but baristas are NOT being paid to clean up after homeless people. I personally just started at SB's, but I've heard numerous stories from coworkers of homeless people quite literally pissing on the floors or rubbing their shit on the walls. Or bathroom usage aside, I found a literal pair of used underwear in the lobby yesterday. It's exhausting to deal with. Depending on where OP lives that problem could be significantly worse than anything you or I am used to dealing with. Homelessness is a lot worse in large cities. And the way OP describes the situation, they are coming in daily at this point, and now sharing the code with others. We do not live in a kind world right now, we can not assume the best intentions anymore. I think OP's concern is pretty fair and valid
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horriblyIndecisive3 points7m ago
My manager installed bathroom padlock for extra security and so we dont have to change the code everytime. Its been so helpful
jams101512 points7m ago
The shit-smearing customers (I call them poo-poo Picassos!) are usually our paying customers, who've developed a terrible habit and are usually not who you would guess would do that. Not even kidding. Something about being wealthy, being in high positions in society, and not thinking their shit stank. (Or lacking empathy, something. It's a dark triad sign!)
The homeless are more likely to bathe in our bathrooms, have sex in our bathrooms, sleep in our bathrooms, or do drugs in there.
HAM1SH5 points7m ago
We had a regular who would pee on the floor every time he came in, my manager didn't believe me when I told her it was him, I had just cleaned the bathroom, he came in, bought his usual $30 order, then went to the bathroom, the next person to use the bathroom told me there was pee all over the floor, it didn't even look like he tried to hit the toilet, looked more like he stood on the toilet and peed off of it on the floor. Manager's exact words "We see Dave at least three times a week, he always buys the same thing, I doubt it's him"
Two people used the bathroom, Dave and a young woman, the woman came to tell me there was pee all over the floor, I don't think it was her, but if it was she had a powerful stream
IthacanPenny3 points7m ago
I have to believe that some men are legitimately oblivious. I have an ex who I broke up with because he would pee all over my floor *in my bathroom at home*. Gross. (FWIW, I had two conversations with him about it before dumping his ass).
OMGitsJewelz4 points7m ago
We literally had to call the exterminator multiple times because a lady started sleeping in our parking lot and she'd come in to use our bathroom to wash up. Shed put all her stuff on the baby changing table. Everytime after she left, bug infestation (bed bugs I think...) And there's be a huge puddle in the middle of the bathroom from her washing herself...
Simple_Reputation7471 points7m ago
Whats wrong w homeless ppl using the bathroom? Lol. Mmmm maybe bc it’s not very hygienic and usually disturbing to other paying customers in the store????? This is not so much about Starbucks - but imagine you were a small business owner and had to frequently allow homeless ppl restroom usage. Couldn’t that be detrimental to the business?
hatman_v41 points7m ago
Have you ever been homeless?
oooortcloud19 points7m ago
Both things are true - that unhoused people deserve compassion and access to sanitation; and that Starbucks baristas cannot be expected to provide those services, either directly or indirectly.
Simple_Reputation7474 points7m ago
Not, but Thats irrelevant. I’ve never been homeless but my parents have been small biz owners. I’ve had to clean up after homeless ppl when I lived in Seattle so I’ve seen some gross defiling of a restroom and private spaces. This is not about not having any sympathy for homeless ppl - the ones I’ve mostly dealt with our srsly mentally ill and/or addicts.
Comfortable-Plane944-3 points7m ago
Addiction is a disease and deserves empathy. As someone in recovery I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. Mentally I’ll and addicts deserve to be treated like people too
HAM1SH3 points7m ago
I have and I wasn't a disrespectful piece of shit when I did use public facilities, I did my shit quick and cleaned up quickly after myself
I wasn't addicted to drugs, but I am about 99% sure if I was I wouldn't be leaving my needles and other paraphernalia in the Starbucks bathroom for some teenage barista to find while doing CS cycle or for a customer to find
And I've never shat on the floor in any businesses bathroom, but I've seen multiple other homeless people do it, mental health and addiction is serious, Starbucks has a right to not want undesirable people who cause issues using the bathroom
When I was homeless if a business was treating me like shit I assumed they had issues with homeless people causing shit or vandalizing, I didn't feel like they were targeting me, I felt like they had been targeted and were sick of it
Comfortable-Plane944-1 points7m ago
Sbux makes 38 billion a year their business is not suffering. I care a lot more about the homeless having a little comfort and hopefully help to get better than an overpriced corporation
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